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Carlos Castaneda - scout1 - 07-23-2012
i post this dialogue with Dreamways from the correspondence (this is an exception, an omen, i dont post private correspondence with anybody) as there is anything personal, but setting the records straight, for the benefit of the readers. I am obliged to do it today (by God, because of yesterday). I held Dreamways in a great respect as sorcerer.
Jan 13, 2011 at 12:48 pm
You: Have You tried to visit heavens in dreaming body ?
In pali canon Buddha is visiting heavens in his dreaming body
so when one is "light" enough not so somber it should be possible
What do You think abou that sir ? )
We can say dreaming restores proper human mythological dimension
potential.
Jan 13, 2011 at 1:27 pm
dreamways:
Yes, the first few months that first started having bright visions in
the daytime, I saw nothing but angels and they lectured me about the
difference between heaven and everything else. There is a feud between
them and the Jinn because they believe that the physical universe
belongs to god's angels and not the rebel angels who took it. They said
that hell was supposed to be the physical heaven but some angels refused
to come back to heaven when hell was first created, and they tried to
kill the angels that were sent to bring them back. Those angels are the
inorganic beings, and they were not cast into hell, they stole it. That
is what the angels told me, and that disagreement between the two sides
is still ongoing. Heaven's angels blame all the problems in this
universe on the other angels, because they "twisted god's plan." The
Jinn, on the other hand, point out that heaven's angels have become
crazy with hate over their defeat and should not be trusted. Apparently,
the creation of sorcerers was caused by heaven's angels trying to
destroy the Jinn on Earth, but it backfired and we were created.
Sorcerers are human mixed with the other angels, so we don't really fit
in completely anywhere and are not obligated to abide by any covenant.
Heaven's angels told me that someday god would make a covenant with
sorcerers, but that day hasn't come yet, so we are still on our own.
Since there is nothing we can do about issues between angels, I just
don't write about it much.
Jan 14, 2011 at 11:35 pm
You: And are You still capable to assemble and visit a heavenly world and even a more higher worlds in the dreaming ?
To visit it actually same as You visit Don Juan in his world ?
Jan 15, 2011 at 12:48 am
dreamways:
Yes, I still travel there occasionally. But, I see angels as just a
different kind of inorganic being, maybe a better kind, but still not
human, so I don't think it is a good idea to listen to them too much.
Inorganic beings, aliens, angels and jinn are all the same thing, and
some of them live in heaven and some don't. Heaven is the region or part
of creation that is truly non-physical, but it is still within the
scope of science to understand it someday. Since hell is physical, I'm
sure that scientist will understand it first. All creation that is
physical is part of the hell domain, and that includes this universe and
Earth itself. Sure, there is a core to hell and a core to heaven, but
technically we are living in hell, the top most level to be exact. The
very next level above us is the beginning of heaven's lowest levels.
Inorganic beings that we normally see in dreaming can transport you to
that first level of heaven, but that is as far as they can go. From
there you would need the assistance of the other kind of IB that lives
there to see the higher levels of heaven . Any sorcerer can visit heaven
and purgatory if they want to, but the funny thing is that it doesn't
really change anything, except maybe the person becomes more religious
after that. I didn't.
Jan 15, 2011 at 1:09 am
You: You are correct.
Perfectly agrees with Tri-loka scheme.
http://www.accesstoinsigh...f/dhamma/sagga/loka.html
And in the third realm, there are beings without bodies only in the form of cosmic counciousness.
The true Heavens is The Form Realm. There are Gods. They create whole worlds... Hence the "Form" realm.
And we are in "Hell". Here are the lower heavens.
Human beings are truly privileged..
We are free
Carlos Castaneda - scout1 - 07-23-2012
We have got a very nice definition here. (and it explains everything DiamondUnicorn/flightwolf).
This is a true human being with its potential. A free human being.
Its all natural, everything is natural. Everybody is a "sorcerer", everybody. thats a human nature.
We should be universalists.
Only cut the dark toltec intent and tensegrity from this, that ugliness. i cant even point to that.
Carlos Castaneda - scout1 - 07-23-2012
Just where are you gravitating... ?
where are you navigating ? =)))
energy = karma
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-23-2012
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-23-2012
PerSyds profile..
"Dear walking corpses, Welcome to Romania the land where we steaks we do not aid you."
better would be: we do not aid you here, you steaks ! )
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(NLW profile views: 1315, good scout Profile views: 177)
Life is cruel )
Carlos Castaneda - Guest - 07-23-2012
CI5 wrote:Every one of us human beings has two minds. One is totally ours, and it is like a faint voice that always brings us order, directness, purpose, The other mind is a foreign installation. It brings us conflict, self-assertion, doubts, hopelessness: it's ourselves as the me-me center of the world.
The fi uses the brain as its control center and feeds the patient their world view. Some people call this an ego but it is a disease. The removal is more than just egomania..though that is a nice start. Templates are bad. This disease is rampant. Even ..and especially on communities like this or other "spiritual" forums its mostly ****.
You talk about hunters. There are few hunters left in the world. maybe you can explain more about the stranger-hunters in the world or i may post on it later.
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-23-2012
good point. i have seen the fi too, in the eyes of people.
i am afraid we are chicken ,)
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-23-2012
everything is a tool how to torture oneself. including freedom.. thought of freedom is like entering a torture chamber actually
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-23-2012
to be aware of ones luminosity.
free-flow
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
i have come upon perfect definition, a perfect tool to understand and become a Seer. it is not initiation, but perfect understanding for anybody how to free oneself and become a Seer
the definition is to be aware/to start to be aware of ones luminosity
its gentle, free-flow, one starts to be aware of ones luminosity, starts to see energy, moving AP, start to use luminious matrix (including dreaming positions what are crystalized luminous matrixes and luminous interactions)
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
the teaching for tonal is this:
to be happy. to live a happy, meaningful life.
truth means to be happy (in spiritual "search", in buddhism, in nagualism)
anything can be cured
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
sikimiwa wrote:CI5 wrote:Every one of us human beings has two minds. One is totally ours, and it is like a faint voice that always brings us order, directness, purpose, The other mind is a foreign installation. It brings us conflict, self-assertion, doubts, hopelessness: it's ourselves as the me-me center of the world.
The fi uses the brain as its control center and feeds the patient their world view. Some people call this an ego but it is a disease. The removal is more than just egomania..though that is a nice start. Templates are bad. This disease is rampant. Even ..and especially on communities like this or other "spiritual" forums its mostly ****.
You talk about hunters. There are few hunters left in the world. maybe you can explain more about the stranger-hunters in the world or i may post on it later.
FI is a shitty concept. it is not a working concept. it is a disease of mind, only a neurosis !
how neurotic you are... ;-)
Carlos Castaneda - scout1 - 07-24-2012
Nobody of you here (except Songbird) have met with Carlos in dreaming. How could you. You are all terrible new agers.
And i have warned you that sorcerers on vaccation in Dome of Naguals are extremely irritable. Once they see your sad cocoon, they dont hesitate to give you a hard lection.
Carlos Castaneda - scout1 - 07-24-2012
i have paid very, very heavy price. huge price. i will explain. as i have met the New seers lineage 10 years ago. The warriors very absolutely normal, decent people. Burning eyes only, otherwise 100 % decent, civilised and normal people. And me ? I was excepting ancient shamans ! i was totally dissappointed.
And i blame tensegrity on that.
"the moment CC started to teach "tensegrity" it all went to hell..."
If you are into CC. you are connected into ancient toltecs, and thats a pain in ass, and the reason i am writing this.
what does it mean ? be normal ! do not take drugs as cognitive tool !!! never. drugs are totally stupid step.
Carlos Castaneda - scout1 - 07-24-2012
There is nothing difficult about the Great Way,
But, avoid choosing!
Only when you neither love nor hate,
Does it appear in all clarity.
A hair's breadth of deviation from it,
And deep gulf is set between heaven and earth.
If you want to get hold of what it looks like,
Do not be anti- or pro- anything.
The conflict of longing and loathing, --
This is the disease of the mind.
Not knowing the profound meaning of things,
We disturb our peace of mind to no purpose.
Perfect like a Great Space,
The Way has nothing lacking, nothing in excess.
Truly, because of our accepting and rejecting,
We have not the suchness of things.
http://terebess.hu/english/hsin.html
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B_rRmkbA9I
Anton Chigurh: You need to call it. I cant call it for you. It
wouldnt be fair.
Gas Station Proprietor:
I didnt put nothin up.
Anton Chigurh: Yes, you did. Youve been putting it up your whole
life you just didnt know it.
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
Infinity
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
Holy **** Carlito ! It is Infinity !!!
Now i have finally figured it. Infinity here and now. It was Infinity.
Then i have read your book ex post The active side of Infinity, ****** happened and have forgotten.
What a ****.
Infinity ! here is Infinity ! My demented brain. It is Infinity !
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
Infinity. Infinity.
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
my best friend today to me:
"Everything is energy you fucking **** !
So drop it all."
- end of quote
Drop it all. it is your problem if you are reading this thread, you are reading my notes. and i am Nagual.
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
"That sixth center of energy," he said, "doesn't quite belong to man.
You see, we human beings are under siege, so to speak. That center has
been taken over by an invader, an unseen predator. And the only way to
overcome this predator is by fortifying all the other centers."
"Isn't it a bit paranoiac to feel that we are under siege, don Juan?" I asked.
"Well, maybe for you, but certainly not for me," he replied. "I see
energy, and I see that the energy over the center on the top of the head
doesn't fluctuate like the energy of the other centers. It has a
back-and-forth movement, quite disgusting, and quite foreign. I also see
that in a sorcerer who has been capable of vanquishing the mind, which
sorcerers call a foreign installation, the fluctuation of that center
has become exactly like the fluctuation of all the others."
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
Buddha (in nikaya): This is Hunter... wake up, this is buddhism
"That sixth center of energy," he said, "doesn't quite belong to man. You see, we human beings are under siege, so to speak. That center has been taken over by an invader, an unseen predator. And the only way to overcome this predator is by fortifying all the other centers."
"Isn't it a bit paranoiac to feel that we are under siege, don Juan?" I asked.
"Well, maybe for you, but certainly not for me," he replied. "I see energy, and I see that the energy over the center on the top of the head doesn't fluctuate like the energy of the other centers. It has a back-and-forth movement, quite disgusting, and quite foreign. I also see that in a sorcerer who has been capable of vanquishing the mind, which sorcerers call a foreign installation, the fluctuation of that center has become exactly like the fluctuation of all the others."
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
all is energy, energetic phenomena. thats perfect.
Intent is force of using and focusing energy physically, ie with ones energy felt directly
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
This definition can be used to get Power immediately by anyone and enter Nagual path into Space
http://sorcery.yuku.com/t...RCE?page=-1#.UA7-2VIs1w0
Carlos Castaneda - CI5 - 07-24-2012
here is the definition: Intent is the Power one uses at will in the moment
Intent is not a thought, or an object, or a wish. Intent is what can
make a man succeed when his thoughts tell him that he is defeated. It
operates independent of any warrior's indulgence. Intent is what makes
him invulnerable. Intent is what sends a shaman through a wall, through
space, to Infinity.