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Practical Path - Littlepaw - 02-11-2015
The Warriors path is a practical path because it takes loads of practice : )
I thought it would be a good Topic to discuss the ways we put the techniques in to practice in our daily lives!
Just to start the ball rolling I will start by explaining how the technique of shifting the focus and listening helps me at work. Is it just me who can be very defensive at times? for me I can be especially in the work place. I started a new job not too long ago and I can already see how when someone kindly points out a mistake I have made I begin to try and defend my mistake and make some kind of excuse for why I made a mistake. The truth is in another few months I will probably be very good at my job but until then I will have to grin and bare making mistakes and being corrected.
In this situation I am always reacting to people rather so listening to others at work is a way for me to over come my defensiveness. My default setting or social conditioning is set to reactive defensiveness and my Technique is to listen to others in order to appreciate the value of what they are saying instead of closing them down by trying to defend myself.
This is one of the techniques I use in my daily life which has been very useful.
Practical Path - Guest - 02-12-2015
spirit moved me to post here. i dont know why as i all i
am currently doing is self-stalking (as op was a nice example of),
accumlating inner silence as much as i can, and working on dreaming. i
am disrupting my routines in general, which seems to be ongoing, as i
learn new things i learn new routines! attempting to do WILD as much as
poss, whenever i get a window, i mean i try to do it when i know that i
have nothing on for a couple of hours. i just read about twin positions,
which sounds interesting. there is lots of instruction written on this
forum, i always find something new.
also i have been working on perceiving the world as a magical dream, you know like it is, having said that
i still think it is important for me. and being in the moment and
deciding to perceive the world as a magical dream is working for me, it
is helping as i am getting to inner silence and seeing much more, from
this position i can see solutions and have a certain clarity in general,
everything is alive and it shows me something, and the world is opening
up more and more for me. lest i forget our lord DJ who said 'we are
perceivers', and it kinda all stems from that one realisation for me at
the momenet.
this is a technique im employing as i made a concrete
static world over the years and since i stopped the world now the world
is not ever the same, and yet i tried to make this world conform to the
old descriptions and succeeded in creating illusions of 'hey its cool
things are just like they were', which were tough to break, but now i
see them for what they are it is getting a lot easier. the world is
magical to begin with i think i just got stuck. its only when i stop
being vigilant that i fall into this lesser position where the world is
static and boring to me. it pains me to write such a thing as it is a
horrendous mistake, but it happens to me and i have been using this
technique to break out of that.
it is funny that you mention listening at work, as i am working at not listening at work. there are times when its difficult to
concentrate when i want to, im definitely being challenged in this
respect. maintaining inner silence whilst trying to phase out a lot of
distractions is good practice for me.
Practical Path - Billy - 02-12-2015
transitions: correct me if mistaken Your technique= perceiving the world as a magical dream.
Curious: from what conventional arena are you starting--your previous broad background and societal self-image? Why are you leaving that?
Explain more precisely your state of stopping the world, the difference of that from being stuck, and cues to remind yourself about 'falling into the lesser (static?) position?
I would like to subsume the world as a magical dream (controlled a la solopsist/serloco-like) then negate or annihilate my magical dream (return to nothing but the empty void). I would arise again with purified awareness. Is this a concept you understand personally? Do you have a sense of obtaining to that?
Practical Path - Guest - 02-12-2015
hello bill, yes and i will try to make this as concise as possible
the arena im starting from is this. i am currently living in a sort of self-created limbo, perhaps between two worlds. i see that i stopped the world in the sense that i was trying to live a conventional life, job, gf, and all the permutations of that. i was possessed by depression/self pity for many years and failed many times, until i was completely sick of my life the way it was and i ended the relationship i was in. this was the catalyst, the day i walked out of that house i stopped the world. since then i have been in this limbo where i am unsure what im even doing with my life, why i am even living in the city i am in, dont know why im working this job other than i need the money. everything changed around me since that day and ive only just caught up to that. thanks to serloco i was able to realise this and many other things. he showed me this technique and it is not right to say that it is 'mine', i was just sharing the techniques im using.so my life as it is is now very magical and im starting to see better, since i have been using this technique.
in my old world i couldnt cast spells, see, etc, all the magical powers were explained away rationally and nothing workedin this magical world i am entering using this technique i am developing my powers on the fly so to speak. seeing the world magically for me means that i am silent and listening and acting when i decide to, i am not at the whim of my mind as i used to be and i am in control and free to work magic and anything is possible.
it was difficult to point to a specific technique as i am doing stuff intuitively, on the fly, acting in the moment, and most of what i am doing is so subtle that my rational mind doesnt realise what im doing.
in fact its difficult to talk at all about anything magical as i am quite new to having things work and need to write more so that i get better at explaining myself i guess.
im not sure that what i describe above is what anyone else calls stopping the world. i just see that on that day the old world stopped, my life changed completely, fundamentally, i was free to create a new world and yet i created a weird limbo instead. its not quite a new world as i still fall into the old position, i still get stuck.
in this limbo i see the world as magical sometimes, but sometimes fall into a position which is similar to the old world i came from - assembling the world in this old way is very dangerous, i get depressed really quickly, get ill, and sometimes i feel like there is no point in anything at all, it is difficult to describe
the problem is that i dont know what is triggering the changes in my ap, it is possible that i am just not adept at moving and acheiveing cohesion in the new position yet, as i see it the more i shift the better i'll get at it until i dont assemble the old depressive thing any more.
i guess that to me stopping the world was moving from the habitual position my ap had adopted. i see that i keep going back to that habitual position (mundane, boring world).
billy wrote:I would like to subsume the world as a magical dream (controlled a la
solopsist/serloco-like) then negate or annihilate my magical dream
(return to nothing but the empty void). I would arise again with
purified awareness. Is this a concept you understand personally? Do
you have a sense of obtaining to that?
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yes i see this in the only way i know which is from having read CC and DJ's description of pitting the one descriptions against each other, the ordinary world and the sorcerers world to arrive at the totality of yourself - yes i am working toward this goal doggedly without really knowing what i am hoping to achieve.
for me first things first i need to learn to assemble the world of sorcerers, learn dreaming, enter this other description more 'in a total sense'
im determined to learn everything i can, and to be hurled into 'inconceivable new worlds'
Practical Path - Billy - 02-12-2015
My response will be trite as of now, though I got you. Oh yes, I have lots to say. I will respond at the 'right' time. I am humbled by being in a world where people have problems, and I have none.
Practical Path - Billy - 02-12-2015
Littlepaw, your technique of shifting focus and listening is a gem. It reminds me that to do so actually freezes those for a nano-second and gives enough pause for strategic awareness. Totally awesome, and thank you.
Transitions, the LOTS to say got simple. Whatever serloco has done on this forum I found to be true in self-reflection. He has left a trove of knowledge that is useful. Don't cram it, but come lightly to it.
By the way, I assure you that serloco wants you to make 'his' ideas yours. Likewise, I now own 'perceiving the world as a magical dream.' (smile, yet true) It's your world BOSS Transitions.
Practical Path - Guest - 02-12-2015
yes i have found that getting to the point 'we are perceivers', starting from this, with inner silence anything is possible, compressing time, etc, you have the speed to see the situation clearly with no preconceived ideas, catch yourself before you make a mistake or do something that intuitively comes to you in this space. i have done lots of self-stalking like Littlepaw example and i see this example as one which can be applied to any situation, see your routines and change your intent or actions to be impeccable, Littlepaw turned the situation into a learning experience which is awesome. and in truth this is all im trying to do with my world, i want to turn all situations into ones in which i learn or progress in some way.
yes i get really inspired and read lots all at once and forget sometimes to go back and look at what everyone has writ here, there really is a lot of practical information on this site. i have crammed it as you say but for me this can be very useful as well, there is a technique that torres writes about called tonal saturation i think where torres was for a time not sure what was going on and thought the teachings werent working: he wasnt seeing results, and cc was filling his head with as much info as possible, cc's goal being to make torres internalise the sorcery ideas which is the first step to acting upon them and proving them to be true to yourself.
if i apply this technique it has a great effect on me. if i literally do nothing else but fill my head with sorcery ideas then they come to me when i need them. self stalking i find so many times when i could be cramming sorcery and so i do that instead of wasting my time doing something unproductive. when i say cramming i am not rushing through things so much (altho i did do at first and that did become a barrier), and taking the time to really go over ideas, but i see it as a good word cos im kinda cramming my head full of these ideas
i placed reminders everywhere and copy sentences / sections of posts/email and read them over and over. it works in my magical dream that i will just be walking along or whatever and i intuitively remember some relevant sorcery truth and have the speed to act upon it in the moment.
Practical Path - Billy - 02-12-2015
billy talking to billy: perceiving the world as a magical dream takes practice with acts and manifestations (not thoughts alone). for you billy: shifting the focus on others and listening is the key to noticing and assuming your own power for agile creating of this magical dream.
Once adept at participation, you will discover the tools (especially persons) to go deeper into your own inconceivable darkness. OMG billy, you know how stupendous THAT is.
For others, my best description of it: (deep primordial awareness without awareness of creations/anything)
Can be many, many sensations. When you emerge back into 'normal' consciousness there are these among many wonders that prevail, PEACE, richness, joy, and self-trust.
Oh, oh, oh... and genuine gratitude. MUST reinforce the habit of thankfulness. Authenticity in this regard pays off in so many ways.
In fact one best word now>>>>AUTHENTIC and thank you billy for authenticity. You are welcome billy.
Practical Path - Littlepaw - 02-13-2015
Just on the Train and reading this thread and getting excited about using different techniques. The first postulate of stalking is that the world and everything in it is an endless mystery but sometimes I and the world I see seem very normal and hardly mysterious.
But then I start to wonder, who are these people opposite me on the train? If I am a magical being of the universe they must be too! And why are we on this train together?
The world is a mystery because when we try to solve it I'm normal everyday experiences clues start to emerge. Our purposes is gradually revealed!
Practical Path - Guest - 02-13-2015
everything for me is about movement of assemblage point through dreaming, and fixation through stalking with the intent to use these ideas techniques come intuitively and i find myself applying sorcery knowledge in different ways. i dont tend to think about techniques as such more like applying knowledge in the moment, and this could be engaging with reality in new ways, perceiving in different ways on the fly in response to whatever situations i find myself
from fire from within "He stated once again that the old seers had concentrated exclusively on developing thousandsof the most complex techniques of sorcery. He added that what they never realized was that theirintricate devices, as bizarre as they were, had no other value than being the means to break thefixation of their assemblage points and make them move." ... "The new seers realized the true role those sorcery practices played and decided to go directly into the process of making their assemblage points shift,"
also you mentioned other people which is an interesting discussion that has sprung from the exchanges, i have seen that people are able to move our assemblage point and i have been starting to talk to everyone who appears in my life. i did see the world in the same way as cc talks about where people are black magicians, i have since completely changed my ideas on this. i see how people can change dramatically with my perception. for example, at a time of intense paranoia and depression, i had been living with the perception that everyone was a black magician for a while at this point and this was the culmination of all those years assembling the world in this way, i was visiting my friends who had a big party house and we were all sat in the front room talking, and everything they were talking about seemed to be like there was something that i didnt know and everything they were saying was related to the fact that i didnt know this info, it was like a massive game that i was unaware of this and they seemed to be brutally making fun of me. i have now realised the dangers of carrying on perceiving reality like this.
now i perceive these friends differently and never have the same issues, it was all down to me and my perception at the time. for a time i didnt want to socialise at all because of this.
it is much more fun to let people become magical, to perceive them as seers, i can see the many benefits of this position.
Practical Path - Guest - 08-21-2019