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The horseshit Gap - serloco - 04-04-2018

So I was out of control. My mind was controlling me and turned into an enemy. I couldnt stop it from opening my gap. I had previously sealed it but the maker opened it back up. I was scared and death was at my door. My cocoon was wide open and about to break off. I felt death all thru my body. FInally I said *** it. Let my gap open as wide as it can and break off my shell. I will live anyways and dont need one. So I made it happen and the death feeling subsided. I discovered rthat I dont need a gap or a shell or anything. It is fooolish to indulge in dangerous pursuits. I form my body how I want and will follow nothing less then perfect. Why would anyone intend death forms?


The horseshit Gap - DoktorGreen - 04-05-2018

A big deal! Out of control is a huge moment! As you know, it feels like a great loss of energy or power. As well as a loss of acuteness. But THEN you start to SEE everything as new and wondrous. No more human conditioning! Looking through the eyes of the double. Here's the next question.... Can you retain it?
Dok


The horseshit Gap - rosygyro - 04-05-2018

serloco wrote:
So I was out of control. My mind was controlling me and turned into an enemy. I couldnt stop it from opening my gap. I had previously sealed it but the maker opened it back up. I was scared and death was at my door. My cocoon was wide open and about to break off. I felt death all thru my body. FInally I said *** it. Let my gap open as wide as it can and break off my shell. I will live anyways and dont need one. So I made it happen and the death feeling subsided. I discovered rthat I dont need a gap or a shell or anything. It is fooolish to indulge in dangerous pursuits. I form my body how I want and will follow nothing less then perfect. Why would anyone intend death forms?

do you destroy these energy forms before you cast them out  or just leave them for some poor bastard to pick up and die with?


The horseshit Gap - serloco - 04-05-2018

DoktorGreen wrote:
A big deal! Out of control is a huge moment! As you know, it feels like a great loss of energy or power. As well as a loss of acuteness. But THEN you start to  SEE everything as new and wondrous. No more human conditioning! Looking through the eyes of the double. Here's the next question.... Can you retain it?
Dok

Its like conquer power or be conquered by power. It felt terrifying. I think I did retain it yes. Since that moment I have opened and allowed my shell to fly off a few times and no death awaited me.


The horseshit Gap - serloco - 04-05-2018

rosygyro wrote:
serloco wrote:
So I was out of control. My mind was controlling me and turned into an enemy. I couldnt stop it from opening my gap. I had previously sealed it but the maker opened it back up. I was scared and death was at my door. My cocoon was wide open and about to break off. I felt death all thru my body. FInally I said *** it. Let my gap open as wide as it can and break off my shell. I will live anyways and dont need one. So I made it happen and the death feeling subsided. I discovered rthat I dont need a gap or a shell or anything. It is fooolish to indulge in dangerous pursuits. I form my body how I want and will follow nothing less then perfect. Why would anyone intend death forms?

do you destroy these energy forms before you cast them out  or just leave them for some poor bastard to pick up and die with?

One of my enemies tried opening the gaps of some average folk and I commanded that people not need gaps and shells. The same as myself. What is horseshit is horseshit for all!


The horseshit Gap - serloco - 04-05-2018

You see when you empower something you reap both the benefits and the problems of that belief, that investment. Me? I invested in Carlos' ideology of the gap and the cocoon and its pitfalls. In doing so I put my life on the line. It was often terrifying for many years. Now I know better and so do you.


The horseshit Gap - rosygyro - 04-06-2018

serloco wrote:
You see when you empower something you reap both the benefits and the problems of that belief, that investment. Me? I invested in Carlos' ideology of the gap and the cocoon and its pitfalls. In doing so I put my life on the line. It was often terrifying for many years. Now I know better and so do you. 

I think Theun Mares work was far more comprehensive in terms that the reader could use to construct a model of the macrocosm. There was a lot more information of diametric opposite forces..i.e. Evolving awareness versus inherent awareness and the way the two extrapolate each others path, or the types of awareness within westerly dreamers versus easterly stalkers etc..

I admit.. the gap or the "CRACK" has always been to me a kind of remnant of thousands of years of human birth..
the cocoon and its perception is at first marred by our own placenta and its position in our recapitulation.. where the umbilicus attached and the cord was cut is almost certainly a hereditary pattern that has existed in humans for 10s of thousands of years.
accumulating an astral force all of its own that has become a mainstay in the habitual assemblage points organic attachment to human incarnation.
but this is the kick.. because as soon as the CRACK is bought into view we also have two forces stemming from the universal mother within which our recapitulation is contained.. and then the father who was a sattelite to our position in the womb.



Its curious to talk of the nagual woman as being "out there" when in actual fact while we were in the womb it was our father who was "out there"..
still the world is full of twists and revelations, roundabouts and temporary obfuscations.

obviously though any dogma is to be avoided as it is a petty tyrant all of its own.


The horseshit Gap - rosygyro - 04-06-2018

in the past year i have taken some horrible abuse from petty tyrants.
Still though the warrior in me has rservations about avoiding petty tyrants.
i suppose in a way i feel it is my duty to stand my ground in integrity.
i have aged about 5 years in the past 6 months through being stuck in proximity to a petty tyrant.
it is only the power of my inherent awarness and evolving awareness which allows
a portion of my totality to keep life flowing through within MEST.
simply put as with many other trials in my lifetime
i KNOW that had i failed i would be dead.

warriors die young.. they die as children and dissillusioned youths..
they live a different life where the moment their integrity is compromised
THE ACTUAL DREAMER engineers their death so they can start again.
Its horribly efficient for the evolving awarness of ATL'

I count my blessings i am alive
but i would be a fool to avoid challenges so as to try to survive.
my dreamer dont work that way.


The horseshit Gap - serloco - 04-06-2018

Oh I dont think warriors die young. I see the opposite. Warriors rise above challenges and sorcery keeps them young. Death is personal and can be beaten. Stalked into nothing. Over time we grow wise and do not intend danger nor death.


The horseshit Gap - DoktorGreen - 04-06-2018

serloco wrote:
DoktorGreen wrote:
A big deal! Out of control is a huge moment! As you know, it feels like a great loss of energy or power. As well as a loss of acuteness. But THEN you start to  SEE everything as new and wondrous. No more human conditioning! Looking through the eyes of the double. Here's the next question.... Can you retain it?
Dok

Its like conquer power or be conquered by power. It felt terrifying. I think I did retain it yes. Since that moment I have opened and allowed my shell to fly off a few times and no death awaited me. 

I get that. It happened to me. I sincerely thought it was death! Just shrugged off the fear and plowed ahead. No other option! It's probably the release of the human form...
Dok


The horseshit Gap - serloco - 04-06-2018

I think the mind creates feelings, and experiences based on what we believe and empower. Since I knew that the gap was real the experience of it was real.

Yes fear is an enemy, but you are right to  plow ahead and not let fear stop you. On the other hand fear warn us of danger and thus we should heed and listen to it. Going further I contemplate fear, and what exactly empowers the reasons for this fear? If it is us then we can overcome the reasons and make a new choice, so not to empower the reason for our fear. It is all within our ability.


The horseshit Gap - serloco - 04-06-2018

It has been said that the energy body is forged with dark energy. We must dream the form of our energy body.. Put into it the best ideas, the best enhancements. The greatest knowledge we can harness. Dark energy is free energy, and if we use faulty knowledge on our bodies then we reap that outcome and faults. Reaching for perfection is the way to go.


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The horseshit Gap - serloco - 04-07-2018

Can belief really kill. Does the machinations of the mind have power to kill? I have been on the edge of death many times, or at least it felt like I had. That feeling of terror when you know death is right behind you ready to pounce. The gap held that power for me. I knew it. I empowered it. But I wonder if it really would kill me. Now that I have defeated it i wonder if it really would of. We make believe all these things, and give to them. Form. I read studies where people healed just because they believed in it. Amazing feat of healing with nothing but belief. I also have heard tales of people dying because they believed. Do you give it that power?


The horseshit Gap - DoktorGreen - 04-07-2018

Maybe I do. Intent is the creative force, so if one intends to heal with complete unbending intent... He will heal. Regarding death, it's well established that fear is a powerful intention. Fear and terror can probably kill.


The horseshit Gap - serloco - 04-07-2018

I think fear is healthy and can keep us on the right way. What do we fear most? That is what we should question. Is fear just? Is what we fear worth fearing? I had fear the gap opening to far and losing my shell. I knew I would die if it happened. It was my weak spot. Yet when that fear came to life and brought me that edge I felt death inches from me, and yet it was gone the moment I knew I could live anyways and change the outcome. I am left challenging my fears and examining the possible outcomes of meeting what I fear. Death. Is it really so bad? What is it? Is it what you believe it is? What you intend it to be? The intended outcome? Is it the knowledge of death that we invite thru believing and knowing it is to come. We all intend the forms of our deaths. We place that power in many possible outcomes. Normal people think that death is one of the only certainties of life. Once yer born you intend to die. You are taught all the ways to get there. Yet, for me and many, the open gap and leaving your cocoon is certain death. Now I know that when I changed that intent death vanished from me. No more fear. I wonder if you could change every outcome of death and simply stop believing in it, feeding it, giving it form.


The horseshit Gap - rosygyro - 04-07-2018

serloco wrote:
Oh I dont think warriors die young. I see the opposite. Warriors rise above challenges and sorcery keeps them young. Death is personal and can be beaten. Stalked into nothing. Over time we grow wise and do not intend danger nor death.

what about the death defier..
i don't get the impression that the death defiers recapitulation
contains any denial of personal death
and that the death defier found a niche within evolving awareness
which couldnt be assembled by polarising with death.



not that you want to be in any way a death defier
you are free to go your own way.


The horseshit Gap - serloco - 04-07-2018

Oh I have stalked various death defier lineages. I had to draw from the connections of silent knowledge. I learned quite a bit. I would sya my path is very similar to many death defiers. The knowledge I attained was also catered to my own awareness.


The horseshit Gap - Guest - 08-21-2019