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The Three Arts - Nagual LoneWolf - 07-31-2009
The nagual gives unto us what Don Juan called "the minimal chance". It is the result of a sorcerer working to master awareness, learning stalking and
the art of dreaming. If we are to have this chance we must at the very right second shift into the unknown. The right second is where we recognize what is
happening to us, the rush of death to defeat us, and the "wall" we must cross. Mastering awareness comes from stalking and dreaming and is often the
result of the two arts by default.
The Three Arts - bluedreamer - 08-04-2009
wood spark fire
father son holyghost
maiden mother crone
mother father child
spirit tonal naugual
stalking dreaming awareness
youth maturity oldage
babyteeth permanentteeth gums(or nowadays dentures, implants)
three is a magic number
Thanks for this post from seriously smiling
The Three Arts - ARNWAY - 08-04-2009
Don Juan said that doing abstract art was the best thing that we can do that offsets the infliction of the flier(shadow domain)
The reason being is that focusing on the abstract is outside of the flier realm and when engaging on activity that fosters this activity that outside of the
shadow realm is a benefit that we all need.
The Three Arts - bluedreamer - 08-04-2009
I agree arnway but I still have some trouble with that word absract, makes me think of science and heartlessness and the the problem lots of people have with
their emotions. I don't think it is enough to become "detached" as meaning not experiencing emotions or avoiding them. You have to work through
them to reach a state of detachment that has a heart, anyway that is how i am finding it. I think I am getting off subject here but that word abstract in this
context kinda baffles me, the spiritual realm may be impersonal but has such a profound personal effect in my life hard to concieve of it as abstract. Arnway,
Wolf, care to explain Don Juan's use of the word absract?
The Three Arts - bluedreamer - 08-04-2009
Oh, the other night I set out to clear my head by focusing on sounds because I have often had the spontaneous experience that that will quiet the internal
racket. Well when I set out to do it I was then constantly bombared with internal babbage and over and over kept comming back to sounds--I was set to quiet
that but instead fell asleep eventually. Those bastards got me. Then last night I reached the chapter in "A Seperate Reality" where Don Juan has
Carlos focus on sounds until he begins to look and hear at the same time noticing their patterns and the "holes" inbetween. I had some understanding
of that from listening when dancing and drumming especially and listening to a wooden clapper. I have seen sounds as patterns of color with spaces, is that
something that would be called the abstract? There is a point where the absract can become so intimate, sound is touch.
I really like how puting two together makes a third, sometimes being indirect works best. It's like how they describe the siddahs devolping from yoga
practices by default.
The Three Arts - ARNWAY - 08-04-2009
The best way to describe abstract is the action to engage activity that has nothing to do with reason or in other terms that are hard to pinpoint like what you
mentioned.
A good thing to do is engage in things like true nature and crafts , me personally like to make and fabricate things that come from my imagination that comes
from the spirit.
The Three Arts - bluedreamer - 08-05-2009
thanks arnway I understand the abstract better now. Just used to thinking of it as its more common use in the dictionary
I do make crafts, paintings etc I agree they are good to engage.
The Three Arts - Nagual LoneWolf - 08-07-2009
Music, art, poetry, such forms help us to silence the internal dialogue which also is the flyer's tool/hold. So we escape from it in a way. Those art forms
mean so much more when one uses them to express their oneness with the universe and that is why in my opinion they are personal.
The abstract? It is a description is all by sorcerer's to define arts of sorcery. It is the canvass used to form intent. We summon it and from it carve our
intent into the world.
The Three Arts - bluedreamer - 08-07-2009
Thanks lonewolf, one has to practice the arts of the sorcerer to understand.
I do recall a few art works I partcipated in that seemed like sorceric art, one was a phoenix-like red bird made with crumpled butcher paper and thin acrylic
craft paints , the other a "sign", was a piece of heavey cream drawing paper with a "line" made of a red cap gun pop strip some of the
charges having been poped by me with a hammer, the paper with its "line" was affixed to a wooden pale like a sign you might put in front of your
house. Making them was like a spontaneous ritual and I felt like the materials and what I call spirit now were participating too. Neither of those was made to
last or to conform to asethetic goals but were 2 of my most moving art making experiences.
The Three Arts - Nagual LoneWolf - 08-07-2009
We can get the attention of the spirit through such gestures as you made. I am sure you have done that Bluedreamer for in your words are the touch of such
attention. Its a gentle push from everyday reality into what we call the abstract.
The Three Arts - bluedreamer - 08-08-2009
fermaplesia lonewolf
The Three Arts - crowmaginus - 08-26-2009
abstract = formless form. we are the form and the formless. abstract is forces opposing each other in harmony
The Three Arts - bluedreamer - 08-26-2009
Reminds me of something I re-read earlier today crowmaginus--Guatama silently shows a flower to the assemblage and only Mahakashyapa understands, he smiles,
for the rest, Guatama says; " I have in my hand the doctrine of the right Dhamma, birthless, deathless, formless, inscrutable. It is beyond sacred texts;
it does not need words to explain it. I give it to you Mahakashyapa."
The Three Arts - Guest - 08-21-2019