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Ring Of Dreamers - Nagual LoneWolf - 12-21-2005
Being of the old world I am not the best one to unite the powerful ones that are part of this world using the internet.
I have tried and again in this post I would reach out and try and start a wave that might ripple across the ring of dreamers.
There are ones out there who come here, have their own sites,
never say much and just visit, you know who you are.
There is alot of personality out there but if you could get past that and relax and join together then a powerful group could be formed.
The fighting and pointing fingers, shaman dogma, and nagual
interpetations are confusing and not what we really need.
What we do need is unity. Many who come to these sites do it while at work and to them it is nothing more than amusement.
Let us drop our differences and make our ring.
It has always been my plan to bring the warriors together.
To make a place where we could drop our egos and be as one.
No leader but a ring of leaders, all equal and committed to advancing the teachings.
A ring of dreamers!
Ring Of Dreamers - Castor - 12-21-2005
Hello Wolf,
I totally agree. True, we should all exclude our personal judgments, lower our egos and try to direct our energy to dreaming the best we can. There are no better ones, we are all just a people and each of us have something unique. And we all can be as good as we intend to, but only if we truly work on it, without interfearance of the shallow, bad emotions that are suppressing our success.
Castor
Ring Of Dreamers - koomw - 12-21-2005
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Ring Of Dreamers - koomw - 12-22-2005
Only dreamers? ??
Ring Of Dreamers - HerbaMatey - 12-22-2005
yes find the dreamer and talk with it and listen to what it says and then say stuff
be free
Ring Of Dreamers - Nagual LoneWolf - 12-22-2005
Dreamers, warriors, people that want to be and are aware.
I write this plea in an effort to unite across the boards, the world, the many readers of Castaneda, the shamans of the western world, the dreamers who think only they see such dreams. Many do not like the terms nagual, sorcery, toltec, but these are descriptions and roots. We have a new way to view the world if we can only open our eyes to it.
Through dreams we share a common medium. Through the air we breathe and the ground we walk, to the death we shall have are
all human common events.
I ask that we stop warring and begin to have tolerance to those who may not see the same way as you do.
Allow yourself to learn. Open your eyes.
Realize that you are a part of everyone.
Ring Of Dreamers - HerbaMatey - 12-22-2005
The Spirit says that you should openly invite people to meet you, know you, love you, etc..
Though not through this inorganic reality.
This inorganic reality is a means.
There is so much more power and truth in reality when the spirits of sorcerers collide and contact.
Ring Of Dreamers - ranma187 - 07-08-2006
I'm game for this ring of Dream-Warriors!
Ring Of Dreamers - Nagual LoneWolf - 07-10-2006
Great Ramma..it is through those willing to be part of the world that we can affect it....write me at nagualwolf@hotmail.com
Ring Of Dreamers - Bob May - 07-12-2006
As I have said before, dreaming is not my strong point, but if I can be of any use in other areas, it sounds interesting to me.Bright Flame
Ring Of Dreamers - Nagual LoneWolf - 07-13-2006
Mr.Bright FLame
I've always considered you a valued member of this place of power. I not being a christian find your posts most interesting and consuming.
If you would like to be more a part of this ring of warriors write me.
Please always consider this place a part of your family.
Ring Of Dreamers - Bob May - 07-13-2006
I appreciate that. And there is a very important thing we all share on this site. It is the desire to see and know that which is beyond the surface that appears to all men. To look beyond the "appearance of things" as Paul puts it.
Of the few close fiends that I have, THAT is the one thing we have in common. And it is a bond that spans many years and large distances.
It is a valuable thing, this forum and others like it. For you younger folks, try to imagine about 20 years ago, when there was no internet.
To find a teacher, or even someone (with interests similar to ours) to talk to was no easy task.Bright Flame
Ring Of Dreamers - SSilhouette - 07-26-2006
I hear that!
We oldsters had the library for company and not much else.
As for seeing the underlying truth of things I'm at a crossroad where I see everything as folly, yet there are remnants of me that so want things to have more meaning than they do. And my second attention is becoming so pervasive at any given moment that I find myself unable to really get serious about anything. On the plus side it's a great stress reducer and I've done some clearcutting on the deadwood in my life ...mostly leech-type people who I used to call 'friends', but also old habits and concerns that used to demand my attention like no other...
But now I'm left with a melancholy that DJ said is common to sorcerers. All the things I used to attach importance to have changed. And I realize now that there are so few things that really matter that the excitement factor in this world of endless folly is really narrowed down for me..maybe I was an adrenaline addict...I don't know. But the only things that matter to me anymore are my kids souls and the souls of the precious few people who I've met who have also tapped into the underlying meaning of things. It always brings me back to those lines in Journey of Ixtlan:
Quote:"Everyone Genaro finds on his way to Ixtlan is only an ephemeral being," don Juan explained. "Take you, for instance. You are a phantom. Your feelings and your eagerness are those of people. That's why he says that he encoutners only phantom travelers on his journey to Ixtlan."
I suddenly realized that don Genaro's journey was a metaphor.
"Your journey to Ixtlan is not real then", I said.
"It is real!"don Genaro interjected. "the travelers are not real."
He pointed to don Juan with a nod of his head and said emphatically, "This is the only one who is real. The world is real only when I am with this one."
Don Juan smiled.
It's not that people who are embroiled in folly aren't real...they are real bubbles of awareness. It's just that in order to take them seriously, a warrior has to relate to their eagerness to bleed out their energy in endless concern about the mirage that is folly. Once you notice that a mirage is a mirage, you no longer seek to drink at the well of sand. And when you see people all around you drinking sand and calling it water, you begin to see their madness...and your old madness that you've realized as folly. To hang around crazy people who are fixated to a kaliedescope of endless madness, is madness itself. So as a warrior who sees, you are left with a choice: the company of the insane, or the company of the sane. And since there are so few people who actually get it, loneliness becomes a warrior's unavoidable lot.And now: back to your regularly scheduled (de)programming...
Ring Of Dreamers - Bob May - 07-26-2006
<<But now I'm left with a melancholy that DJ said is common to sorcerers. All the things I used to attach importance to have changed. And I realize now that there are so few things that really matter>><br>With much wisdom comes much sorrow. That's from somewhere in the Old Testament,....probably Solomon.<br>It's not as bad as all that, though. It's just our eyes opening. I wouldn't trade it for the lives of those who spend all of their time chasing more, bigger and better. Money, houses,etc. All fo the things that will disapear with our bodies.<br>I think Don Juan mentioned somthing about laughing so much to counter-balance the awesomeness.<br>Also I think the key is to keep "raising the bar" for ourselves. There is much to explore, and we will never experience it all. I think that will keep the interest.<br>But like many, I have responsibilities that leave me limited time for this. I have two boys grown, but still living at home, and one more that is twelve.<br>I expect to have more time to use in 4 or 5 years. But until then I can squeeze out time during the day on the way to work and on the way home and weekends. <br>We can use our imaginations to find new ways to "not do" and keep ourselves "open" to new experiences.<br>If we keep ourselves open, things will come to us. Of this I have no doubt.<br>It's hard to have a goal, when you have never experienced it before. But that IS the goal. We are explorers of the unknown.<br>God, Jesus, Power will lead us to what we are to experience.<br>I have never experienced the same things twice, yet each experience that I have had has built upon my understanding of Spirit.<br>And each time that door opens, it brings excitement with it.<div class='signature'>Bright Flame</div>
Ring Of Dreamers - SSilhouette - 07-27-2006
Quote:It's not as bad as all that, though. It's just our eyes opening. I wouldn't trade it for the lives of those who spend all of their time chasing more, bigger and better. Money, houses,etc. All fo the things that will disapear with our bodies.~Bob
True true. I compare my experience with near-death experiencees. They report similar sensations. Many will divorce out of a dead-end marriage, change careers overnight, move to distant lands etc. because they see that they were pulled off track from their 'mission' (a lot of them use that or similar term to describe their life lesson plan).
When we're young we're so bombarded with "shoulds" that we bind ourselves in a corner trying to please all the "shoulds" in our heads. We don't even know why; only that not to do so would bring disapproval and ostracizing from whatever sources we view as authority figures in our lives.
Symbolic or actual death scrubs that all off the motherboard and allows the original program to run. I like to look at it that way.
And yes, there are many more magical things to look forward to..I just know it. So that keeps me going. That and the few people I know who are spiritually tuned in. Many of them post here.And now: back to your regularly scheduled (de)programming...
Ring Of Dreamers - ranma187 - 07-29-2006
As i said in my email Lone Wolf! I'd really Willing to be apart of this ring!http://www.billmon.org/archives/separatereality.jpg
Ring Of Dreamers - Guest - 07-31-2006
Each bee does at all times, what she feels is best for the hive.
They are actually anarchists, none of them telling the others what to do or how to do it. When they starve, they all die at the same day, because they share the last drop of honey with each other.
Ring Of Dreamers - Nagual LoneWolf - 08-04-2006
that is an awesome thought!
Ring Of Dreamers - Aranno Way - 10-01-2006
Hello, How do you initiate the process when in a dreaming state I've tried before with someone before but they were a stalker?
I think that this is most interesting.
In my opinion to do this you have to voice your intent and meet someone with a established common "cue" to direct such meetings -"A place or Word".
Ring Of Dreamers - Silhouettes Double - 10-01-2006
They say that recapitulation is the tool for stalkers. Indeed it is. But also, it helps dreamers get to the source of what their soul is telling them, what is true and what has nucleal meaning as opposed to all the peripheral Bullshit.
It's this nucleal drive that fuels the will and the will that governs the ability in dreaming that you're talking about. Issues that really pull at you are a good didactic device to meet in dreams.
For instance, a friend of mine is dying. This affected both of us deeply. One night we shared the exact same dream of a dingy one room "cell" where she was being kept in purgatory (she has not lead the most pure of lives). It was tiny, had no windows or doors and had black mold growing from the walls. I hovered over her in visitation as if I was being shown her fate. Her perspective was of watching me hovering over her as she sat in spiritual agony of her fate.
I just so happened to have tea with her the next AM and I was mulling over the vividness of that dream as she started telling me about HER dream and I started spitting tea out of my mouth in shock and surprise. When I told her I had the same exact dream, she went quite pale. She didn't put much stock in it as most people don't after they slip back into denial. But when I see her making mistake after mistake I think of nothing else.
It was this visceral dread that we both knew about her that I believe cause the link-up for the dream.
Incidentally this one of only two times I've verified co-dreaming. Another was with my daughter who met me in a forest near our home and we both reported the same details of the dream the next day.And now: back to your regularly scheduled (de)programming...
Ring Of Dreamers - Eilias123 - 10-07-2006
I've had some few experiences. a few years ago my x girlfriend and I had a shared dream.
I've been trying to dream with someone and so far, although we haven't been fully aware of eachother, our dreams are beginning to synchronise in subtle ways. we do remember having a dream of eachother one night but we both forgot the details.
like anything in sorcery it takes PRACTICE and constant effort.
Ring Of Dreamers - adeleon444 - 01-29-2008
"The only way to balance the terror of being a man and the wonder of being a man is thru laughter"That idea of dreaming together is fascinating.I was able to accomplish once with a freind.We didn't do anything specifically,we just talked about the possibilities of it one day,and a few days later it happened.The Dream-we were in an antique mall where I worked in Manitou Springs looking out of an eastern facing window when we seen 2 bombs go off in the distance.A third was on its way down, and we started to run,then suddenly stopped and looking at each other shrugging our shoulders.We new it was useless to run,so we just turned back towards the window to accept our fate.
Ring Of Dreamers - Eilias123 - 02-11-2008
Wow, sorry I been away. I would like to participate in the ring of dreamers.
Ring Of Dreamers - greenriverknight - 02-13-2008
Elias you must wake up intent! And we do.
The ring of the dreamer sees their feeling.
And says that just felt right. Or thinks
Fortuitous that a group of seers align the same
unused
emanations.
The best intent, time to do dreaming is late at night and early in the morning.
Remember to feel. See with your feelings.
We'll see you on the other side./ greenriverknight
Ring Of Dreamers - Eilias123 - 02-22-2008
man intent is hard to wake up on. I mean if there was a magic word or a password, that could just wake me up to the intent that i once had a strong connection with... if you have any ideas my email is in my profile.