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Dreaming Gates - Nagual LoneWolf - 07-01-2006

Hello Dreamers! You may have likely read my posts on Anartica and of other dreaming tasks and wonder how do I find these places?
There are tasks that we can do in dreaming such as achieving lucid states, seeing our bodies, joining with others but these type of tasks take place in the real world. "Real world" is actually not a phase I like to say but I use it to mean the reality world we share when we are awake.
To find other worlds we use gates. Gates lead us to specific dreaming locales or states. The Wall Of Fog is a gate. A hole in the ground is a gate. A river or lake is a gate.
A dreaming train or other means of transportation can take us through gates. Gates can be created by the dreamer to enter some types of worlds. Gates can be a gate, hole, water, wall, and enitity, another dreamer, etc. I cannot actually define them but ask you to look for them and seek them.


Dreaming Gates - Guest - 07-02-2006

That's interesting quest)
We all have found many such gates.
But, say abit more about people being gates.
i know that first of all we ourselves are gates, our personal doorways always ibn our disposition))


Dreaming Gates - Castor - 07-03-2006

I agree, it is a good and interesting taskSmile...
But we must all agree, that finding those gates isn't much worthy without awarenessSmile. And awareness in dreaming is achieved by lucidity (being lucid=being aware) and by seeing your body sleeping, because then you are your double, that is a true dreaming and you are undoubtly aware(you wouldn't be there if you haven't fallen consciously into sleep - not that you necesarily need to look at your body sleeping and waste energy, but to be in that level of awareness is necesarry).
So, to find a gates, first you should get aware, otherwise you won't be aware of the gates in front of you.
True dreaming takes effort: endless effort - life time training, even more lifetimes training, but it only is a road to higher levels of awareness and a road to another worlds.
So, more we are aware in dream, more gates we find and clearer our perception and remembering is.
I think we cannot separate things and steps of achieving awareness in dreamworld (if we do that we aren't complete in what we do); how to find a gates if you are not aware? How to intend there if you are not aware?
Even it you do pass them, what sense does it make? How to look for the wall of fog if you are in the middle of some ordinar dream, unaware and controlled by your own thoughts?
Finding a wall of fog or any gates requires awareness! Any sorcery requires awareness, otherwise it is not a sorcery!
Wall of fog or gates can't be reached in unaware statement, or even if it is reached in that statement we won't probably remember it. You remember only something what you are aware of, only when you are conscious you have a freedom to remember and to act aware in any domain of existence.
So, lets combine it all, lets do entire task, not just part of it, lets be complete and do dreaming as it should be done; truly, completely and with huge deal of patience and effort..
Gates will come with awareness, seeing will come with awareness, perception will clear with awareness and energy will increase with awareness.
So, from my point of view and experience I can only say this:
1. Fall aware into sleep.
2. Lift up from body.
3. Remember and intent to find a gates or wall of fog.
4. Do not loose awareness when passing the gates.
4. Don't get caught by emotions when you awaken, like ''Oh,
I haven't managed to do thatSad(, I never will...''.
We will, but it takes time!!!
If you are in simple lucid dream...:
1. Get lucid inside a dream, or get lucid when you see a gate.
2. Remember an intent to look for gates.
3. Increase level of awareness because then you will be able to stay lucid long enough to find and pass a gates.
(I increase level of awareness in dreaming by chanting certain words).
4. Do not loose awareness while passing the gatesSmile!
Good luck, and lets give our bestSmile..
Castor''It is a dangerous business, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you dont keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.'' J.R.R. Tolkien


Dreaming Gates - Castor - 07-03-2006

..Just to correct my selfSmile..
Dreaming is not the only way to reach higher awareness, but it comes naturally with awareness expansion. One that has enough power and awareness doesn't have to be the best dreamer but is aware in that level of existence.
What I meant is, if we are about to have certain tasks in dream mode, than it could be good if we have a qualitative approach.
It takes years to handle those things, but it is their nature; they are higher levels of existences, and we will have to work and work and work and loose expectations that miracles will happen instantly, for that would be underestimating the nature of magic as dreaming is and ignorance.
My suggestion is that we go step by step.
I'm interested in how many of us can frequently enter dream aware, stay aware and intend from there on, for that is a truly good and important thing to handle.
Without it is the same as wonting to swim over ocean and not knowing how to swim. First you need to learn how to swim well, how to maintain awareness in dream well, so that it doesn't fade instantly, and then to go swimming in the ocean and looking for another worlds.
Personally, I can do it sometimes, not always, and not always when I would like to.
There are periods when it goes so good, and periods when it goes so bad. It is all a matter of individual progress.
So, once someone will find a gate and then the same person won't find a gate in dreaming for several months maybe. See, it all happens in some terms that are still above our control.
All we truly need is endless patience and constant effort, and it will work out some daySmile..
More trained each of us personally is, better group we are.
Deeper each of us can go, more we can see as a group.
But it is only what I think and it doesn't need to be rightSmile, but I say it from my heart,
All best,
Castor
''It is a dangerous business, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you dont keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.'' J.R.R. Tolkien


Dreaming Gates - Nagual LoneWolf - 07-03-2006

Thanks Castor. Great posts about dreaming and your very right.
Any dreams that effect sorcery only increase one's power.
I dreamed the other night I was floating and my face was pressed against the ceiling. I'm out of my body I thought and I turned and looked down and there was my body below me.
I then remember nothing.


Dreaming Gates - Poutnik - 07-04-2006

You are so right Castor. There is an old say the group is as strong as his weakest member. Althrough all of you are very far in dreaming then I am I thign all of us still lack basics like to get lucid whener we want and other things.


Dreaming Gates - Guest - 07-04-2006

"I'm interested in how many of us can frequently enter dream aware, stay aware and intend from there on"

"Personally, I can do it sometimes, not always, and not always when I would like to.
There are periods when it goes so good, and periods when it goes so bad. It is all a matter of individual progress."
Same with me.
I would say also that this year was not so good in relation to lucidity, but in a strange way it was very interesting and rich in relation to dreaming. Something changed in my dreams.)


Dreaming Gates - dreamster - 07-05-2006

Here are a few tips for becoming lucid:
Look for and recognize inconsistencies and impossibilites in your dreams:
If the sky is yellow or the ocean is pink, you're dreaming
If the light switch doesn't work or the clock is running backwards, you're dreaming
If you can fly, you're dreaming
If you see dead people who have returned to life, you're dreaming
If animals talk to you, you're dreaming
When you begin to realize you are dreaming, look at your hands.
At this point, remember your intent for lucidity, such as "I will meet with the Ravens".
dreamster


Dreaming Gates - Castor - 07-05-2006

Yes, yesSmile
Good tips for becomming lucid!''It is a dangerous business, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you dont keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.'' J.R.R. Tolkien


Dreaming Gates - Guest - 08-21-2019