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Visions - Nagual LoneWolf - 05-07-2006
We share dreams here and tales of power. Yet with intent and belief, there are other things you can focus your power on.
When you can silence the internal dialogue you can experience visions and seeing while awake.
You can manifest your "double" and even leave your body on short notice.
Communicating with others such as teachers for example is often done while dreaming but remember that you can also achieve such communication while awake.
Intend it.
They are there whether your asleep or not.
Earlier today I used this type of focus (sorcery) to "see" the effects of the FI on society and was "shown" how much it had taken over our race and planet. While seeing it in its true form it raised its ugly head at me and "saw" me back.
This type of seeing or vision if you will was very much like you would see in dreaming but I was of course awake.
As a stalker I do this alot and see the world through a silent mind.
The "interface" is basically how it is done for some of you.
Have any of you had/have visions in this manner?
Visions - Guest - 05-07-2006
Quote:Earlier today I used this type of focus (sorcery) to "see" the effects of the FI on society and was "shown" how much it had taken over our race and planet. While seeing it in its true form it raised its ugly head at me and "saw" me back.
This reminds me of the Buddhist teachings by Chogyam Trungpa. (I'm going to be on about the moon again ....)
In one of his books, he was describing how on a clear autumn night you might be looking at the full moon, but then something happens, and all of a sudden you are no longer looking at the moon ..... the moon is looking at you !
But it doesn't have to be the moon, it can be a billboard, a rose, a dew drop shining on a thistle.... anything ....something just catches your eye ... and you stop and then in the stillness of your inner silence you feel an alignment with it as it is looking at you.
In this kind of an alignment, there is the "seeing" in it. It can be an insight into something .... or it can be a clairvoyant message .... or a premonition vision ..... or it can be a thoughtform/message another person has "sent" to you ...
Maybe "seeing" the effects of the FI on society is not the most pleasant "alignment" to "see" ..... but generally these kinds of "alignment messages" can truly be beautiful .... they just have that other dimensional *umph* or "higher octave" to them .....
Is this manner of "seeing visions" similar to what you are talking about Lone Wolf ?
Artnwere
Visions - Guest - 05-07-2006
There is all around us, a white iridescent substance.
I don't know how to call it, i have no word for it. Life.. light.. awareness, i don't know.
It's all around us for us to breath in,everywhere, every moment, we swim in it yet we.. forget it, we forget the ambundance of it.
Knowing that it is all around us we breath in.
Lets not forget to breath in)))
By the way, the "flyer" doesn't eat that.
:-)
Trust me even if you don't, everything we need is in the air)
Visions - Nagual LoneWolf - 05-08-2006
Thnks Saranicka..and yes Artnwere...such an alignment can be seeing...now try it by looking at me with your silent mind..focus///look for my image to come to you.
Doktor Green is a good one to try this with as his double often will look right back at you.
Visions - Guest - 05-08-2006
Heh.
Was it yesterday .... (or the day before ?) ..... Had a good feeling about our connection here .... when an image of you Lone Wolf just popped into my mind. You had a big smile on your face and your mouth was like laughing ..... so I thought, - "What is he laughing about now, what is so delightful ... or like coy. What is he coy about..... what is he up to now" ?
But the funny thing was, that I only saw the bottom half of your face .... your eyes were covered in darkness.
So that ! .... was what you were smiling and coy about !
Gosh ! You and your tasks !!!
Ohhhhhh..... We shall see, what comes up. Won't put a time limit on it though or anything .... just letting it happen if it does.
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I don't think this was a mere coincidence here .....
So that's curious. Interesting !
And if I can "see" you, it means you can "see" me too .... for it goes both ways ...
Artnwere
Visions - Guest - 05-08-2006
here's my experience of seeing with closed eyelids, i quote from the group i wrote it in that time (13 january):
"Last night, i had lied to sleep. some time passed when i was thinking about an issue. I realised that my feelings were so strong, self-pity and shame and a sense of entrappement, that i had difficulty to be the observer. So i pushed my self to be the observer.
As the time passed and i was lost in my thougts in darkness.at the edge of sleep, suddently i realise that i see some strange shapes in front of Me in my room. But my eyes were closed.
I thought that maybe i have just woken up in my energy body without realising it. But when i tried to exit my body, i felt that.. i wasn't exactly in the state of obe. I mean.. my physical body wasn't asleep at all. I was just seeing things in my room with my eyes closed. It was a. different feeling of regular seeing, but.. i cannot describe it.
When i realised that i am not going to have an obe, i got confused and opened my eyes, i saw my regular room.
When i closed my eyes again, after a second (or more or less, i don't know..), again i realised that i was seeing strange shapes and again i checked if i was out of body and i wasn't.
It was very.. different feeling. I was absolutely aware of my body, and my energy body, and there wasn't this.. dreamy perception of the world that even an obe has.
Also, apart from the fact that i was THINKING about if i am in an obe state or not, my body had no desire to have an obe or to do anything else apart from looking at whatever these shapes where.
All this must have lasted a minute or less, but it's something knew for Me, since the shapes i was seeing had no meaning at all.. just shapes with curves, like different shapes of bottles in the darkness of my room, colours Brown or gray.
But, i was busy observing my state than the objects.. so i can't really describe them more.
and, i cannot say that that was "seeing" because i didn't actually "see" anything that i could decode.. what i mean is, that what i was seeing didn't contain any information (as far as i could perceive). The only information was that state itself. "
i want to highlight the last paragraph:
"i cannot say that that was "seeing" because i didn't actually "see" anything that i could decode.. what i mean is, that what i was seeing didn't contain any information (as far as i could perceive). The only information was that state itself."
if this was seeing, why didn't i get any info on what i was seeing? and note that i didn't see anything interesting, just a different objects in my room in brown and dark colours.
if it wasn't seeing, what was it? it wasn't a dream, it wasn't an obe.
Visions - Castor - 05-08-2006
I think it was an opening of the third eye ''Ajna chakra''
...That is good!I had that kind of events in meditation or while asleep. It is an eyebrow chakra opening.
Castor''It is a dangerous business, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you dont keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.'' J.R.R. Tolkien
Visions - Guest - 05-09-2006
P.S. Lone Wolf ......
Just to mention here as well .... Quoting my very first post:
Quote:Hello Ravenfield Forum !
On saturday night (might have already been sunday morning/night here in Central Australia) .... sat down at my computer. Was looking at an image of a person .... and this picture seemed to be saying to me: "Will you have a dream with me ?"
Looked back at the picture, and in my mind said to it: "Yes, I will have a dream with you".
So theeeeen, when I went to my e-mail in-box ..... Heh !
There was an e-mail from you Lone Wolf telling about this private dreaming forum !
That; was a very clear message and a very synchronistic one as well, at the time it happened .... which was encouraging ....
And when I said, that I was looking at an image of a person .... I meant that "the image was looking at me" .... and seemed to be saying "Will you have a dream with me" .......
This is how I "see" things ..... there is a "shift" .... and something is "looking at me" .... with a message "attached" ....
I'm not good at "seeing" as such ..... it is only, when there is intent energy coming my way ..... like your e-mail asking me if I would join .... or like your intent energy to ask if we can "see" each other back ....
We can. You may have your own ways of doing this .... & me mine .... but if there is a way to develop it further, and Spirits agree, then I am glad to shamelessly exploit/utilize the situation/opportunity.
But of course having said that ..... now I feel all shy.
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I have met people in my dreams .... by intending it to happen .... and then we have verified it afterwards ..... But those occasions have been with people, I've had a strong "psychic" connection to start off with .... and then there having often been a real life "situation need" to contact them in this manner .... the "situation need" itself, like providing the energy needed for the projection .....
Artnwere
Visions - Nagual LoneWolf - 05-09-2006
When this type of event happens it is a omen. Things like this are not an accident. This is one way in which the spirit leads us.
These might seen like small things but they will lead to great changes in one's life.
After saying that I will add that its pretty cool.
Visions - Guest - 05-09-2006
When there is a synchronistic event accompanying a "seeing message" .... then I have always taken it as Spirit wanting to point something out for me to take a note of.
But what .... and for what purpose/reason ..... that is kinda ....like; -an open question .... which only becomes clear in the questioning of it and letting Spirit unfold the answer ........
The least I imagine or manufacture anything out of my own mind ... the better ... as not to go into a "wish zone" .... or a "fear zone" (for that matter).
And sometimes you can only go to a certain point with it ..... with that said flow of unfolding of answers .... because the purpose has been fulfilled ....
Finding a group like this and then settling down to take "my place" in the circle ..... is a new experience for me, a new learning curve .... it is an honour as well as a humbling thing ...
Artnwere
Visions - Nagual LoneWolf - 05-10-2006
This dreamwheel has had many members over the years. There were dreams where we went into the Grand Canyon looking for a lost city that we found but was guarded by a guardian.
We went to anartica and found Hitler's body along with the spear of destiny. We went into another dream world that I called Atlantis and it was filled with rolling hills and twin suns.
I went into the world trade center disaster after it happened to help the spirits killed and still lost there.
There is much we can do and much we can explore.
Visions - Guest - 05-10-2006
If the Dreamers here ever wish to come to Australia .... I do recommend Chillagoe (talked about the place in "The Stalking Post").
There the sense of "The Ever Present Eternal Essence" .... i.e. "The Eternal Dreamtime" ..... "dreaming all phenomena into manifestation" .... is .... so strong !
Those Ancients, i.e. rock formations "sing" !!!!!!
And their "singing" draws you in like a magnet and guides your AP deeper into the said experience of that Eternal Aspect or the Eternal Essence of Nature.
As places in Nature shift ones AP ever so gently and harmoniously .... that even if the shifts are profound ... fear just doesn't come into the picture .... for all one feels is just immense beauty and love and gratefulness ....
Even the Aboriginal Elders from the Nth. Queensland coastal area take their youth groups there to learn/feel/sense the Spiritual Aspect of Reality and also to do their story-telling and dancing in that place. (But this is generally not talked about).
These ancient rock formations are dotted all over a vast savanna-type landscape:
www.securedtravel.com/ima...llagoe.jpg
Limestone caves .... crystals .....
www.savannahway.com.au/as...033861.jpg
Artnwere
Visions - Nagual LoneWolf - 05-11-2006
Nice pictures..especially the cave!
Visions - Singer - 05-11-2006
Thanks, Artnwere!
I also particularly like the caves. I have been wanting to go to Australia for a long time. Soon! : )
Singer
Visions - Guest - 05-12-2006
Yeah, Singer ..... Lone Wolf,
Just let the invitation to Chillagoe sink in for now, and besides I need to do a bitava song and dance & gesturing and a little bit of energy gathering in order to prepare myself to "go there" in a special sort of way.
So ...... if at some time in the future, you feel good about going to Chillagoe .... & you feel a pull to go there .... or something .... ?????
It is an open invitation.
Visions - Guest - 05-19-2006
the last two nights before i went alseep i had the following images (a state where i am before sleep, i see images but without being alseep or attracted to them as entering a dream, but i see them in front of me clearly, as if i am there, but just my eyes) Night before last night and last night respectively:
a) a young woman going out of a building, out of the building is a small square space, like a small hidden spuare, very dirty, lots of garbage down, an old and neglected neighbourhood. She wears black tight trousers, black short sleeve blouse, black hair straight kind of long. She looks very concerned and worried. She looks towards my direction after a few steps worried. end.
b)a place like desert with low thin bushes. Beyond that huge dark brown mountains cover the horizon. A grey-brown wolf enters my vision field from the right, walks accross my vision field and as he reaches the middle he stops and turns his look towards the mountains.
Visions - Guest - 05-20-2006
Saranica, because I cannot astrally project easily, as you do .... therefore I "astral journey" .... the way you talk about in the beginning of your post.
Can't relate to your vision a)
Where I live is not an old and neglected neighbourhood. From the view above this estate might look like a resort complex, with swimming pool etc. etc.
Can relate to the b) though .....
Right next to where I live, is a National Park .... low bushes ..... next to that reddish to brown mountain range covers the horizon.
I was "all-over-the-place" .... mentally, last night, with my "astral journeying" ... tired .... not clear.
At one point a person entered into my journeying .... and wanted like, - to "see" .... this "Entity" here & this person was facing me like being ready to see if the "Entity" could be fierce.
For this, I needed to like "shapeshift" into a Dingo. So I tried, the way I feel real good about it. But of course I am a wolf. So then as a wolf, I tried to "show" the direction, where the Entity is.
The Entity can be fierce ... it guards this area from "intruders" into it's territory.
The Aboriginal people here still do "Sorcery" with it .... I personally do not want to go "there", though I have benefited from their Ceremony/Sorcery.
I share this Entity here .... with many others.
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But then again this vision of yours could relate to Lone Wolf as well ....... ?
I use the word "like" a lot ... because events I describe is a sensing/feeling thing.
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Here every Aboriginal person is born into a Totem, and each Totem belongs to a "Dreaming Track".
White people have called these Dreaming Tracks as "Lay-Lines", but no Aborigine would call them that ....they are called "Song Lines".
Though description of them is similar.
These Lines are like veins and arteries of energy that grid the land. These Tracks are very much alive and vibrating and the Sacred Sites are locations where these Lines cross and create vortexes of electromagnetic energies.
In a Lucid Dream I "saw" these "Dreaming Tracks" .... like "acupuncture" points in ones body. The Tracks are like "energy beams" (red) from one "energy junction" to another .... on the land .... or they are like the "neural pathways" (?) that connect "acupuncture points" to one another ... criss crossing ones body.
Their energy looks like a steady red stream.
The "energy junctions, "the "acupuncture points" in the body or on the land look like "knots".... or like "crystals" (white) and their energy pulsates.
This Entity here is The Earth Guardian of this "Lay Line" itself .... if you like, but those "vortexes" have other Guardians.
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I would be very interested to hear .... how others here have "seen" these kind of energy lines, that grid the land.
Not meaning here .... but in general or ....in your own landscape.
Visions - Guest - 05-20-2006
Another person entered into my journey last night as well.
To this person I was trying to convey "The Magic of Chillagoe" .... trying to point, that the energy of the land there is like the "heartbeat" of Earth itself pulsating.
Like a "drum" it "echoes to Eternity" ..... pervading all space. The "luminosity" of the Ancients (rock formations) .... is "Them Singing".
Then I started to see forests .... bonds ..... bodies of water ...... loved it at first .... but then the water was going into caves .... I felt uncomfortable there .... so I went upwards & out of the caves.
Then I was up in the sky in the clouds .... saying bye-bye to the person .... who had now turned into a "Sky Walker".
It was as though this person was trying to "show" me the "range" of water element.
Visions - Guest - 05-20-2006
Artnwere,
i would like to visit Chillagoe. Maybe we can set it up sometime, and i will try to connect. Since i don't have much control over my lucidity or my obes i can only say that i will Intend to come and see what happens.
I would like to comment on what you write but i have no time now since i am going away for weekend and just came to check in here for a second)
have funn all of you and see you later))
i've seen energy lines on my body in dreaming, acupuncture points, specially on face, we have like... hundrends!)
Visions - Nagual LoneWolf - 05-20-2006
Where I live is desert. Desert mountains, tall saguros cactus, small bushlike trees..the sky is often red and its dry and hot. I live very close to the Superstition mountain in Arizona. If you look it up on a browser you should find photos of it.
Hope you all are having a nice weekend..one more week and I return back to my home from my academy....yay!
Visions - Guest - 05-22-2006
Thinking about the second part of my "astral journey" I mentioned earlier on this thread ..... when I started to see forests .... bonds .... bodies of water ....
My "astral attention" must have gotten "fixated" on the flow of water .... and I must have fallen asleep .... because once I entered into the caves, I wasn't "astral journeying" i.e. "witnessing" stuff in a meditative state anymore .... I was now within that "dream" ...
And it isn't that the caves in Chillagoe are sinister in any way ..... it is just that, by following the flow of water .... I had managed to go beyond the "boundary" from astral journeying into astral projection ..... and by becoming conscious, that I was following the water (blindly, unconsciously) .... and then by acting against it "like a salmon" .... I became lucid .... in that dream.....and then by willing myself up to the sky .... I had become an active & conscious "participant" in that dream.
And then seeing a silhouette of an other person up in the light of the sky .... walking among clouds .... waving bye-bye to me ....was way the coolest thing I've ever seen or experienced in astral projection state !
But what a struggle ! ... the whole thing was.
Visions - Guest - 05-23-2006
Artnwere,
would you like us to attempt a visit?
anyone in for a cave exploration?
lets go into the earth) i feel some of you will connect immediately.
Visions - Guest - 05-23-2006
It is an open invitation.
The caves are beautiful, but I never felt the magic strong in those lime-stone caves though .... maybe it is just me ... but outside .... the ancient rock formations "sing with the stars".
Visions - Guest - 05-24-2006
Ok then) i'll do something else i got to do first and then i'll set an intent to visit Chillagoe. I'll let you know when.
Visions - Guest - 05-31-2006
Let;s go to Chillagoe)))
let me know when you'll do your thing Artnwere and i'll give it a try)