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Parallel Times - DanJones - 08-09-2014
Our total being consists of two axis of time moving in opposite directions. One is moving from order to disorder and the other is moving from disorder to order. Our bodies are a disposable manisfestation of our parellel being while the parellel being goes on forever.......
Parallel Times - Mornings Son - 08-18-2014
For once i like to use the word multi-dimensional
In your picture I would like to add that we are more than in parallel times
check this video
Parallel Times - Littlepaw - 08-18-2014
Very interesting, thanks for posting
Parallel Times - DanJones - 08-23-2014
From Carlos Casteneda's book 'The Fire Within', Don Juan describes what happens as beings are concieved. A piece of the glow of awareness from each partner separates and then comes together and merges. What this means is we are one person but we are also two people going back and forth between both states.
One of the glows of awareness comes from one's father and knows time in its own way. The other glow comes from one's mother and knows time in its own way. The combined glows knows time in its own way.
So in essence we have three time tracks or to put it another way we have three attentions built in us that start out in the assemblage point and then can with pratice be projected outward to create a being with full use of its totallity.
The Eagle's Emmanations (EE's) are in constant motion and each is a boundless source of energy and they are all aware of themselves and there are so many that numbers are meaningless. Each one is connected to all the rest all are subject to the Rolling Force that either spreads the EE's apart or brings them together.
I call the side of the Rolling Force that spreads the EE's apart the Desolving Force because it ends the dreams the EE's are having and Don Juan called it The Tumbler. I call the side of the Rolling Force that brings the EE's together The Condensing Force because it casuses the EE's to dream and Don Juan called it The Circular Force.
Normallly as EE's exchange The Rolling Force (RF) they emmit and then aborb and emmint and aborb and this behavior forms the back drop of our reality. During conception two EE's are brought together in such a way that their respective RF's are inverted relative to one another such that the RF has now become the Binding Force. The BF happens when an EE has an idenity crisis because it is being forced to be two opposing things at the same instant and this problem is resolved through integration with the other emmanation.
The Binding Force decouples into two time loops going in opposite directions giving rise to two flows of time our total being experiences. Each time loop decouples into four parts that morph into some of our more familiar Nagualian objects such as the mind, body, nagual and tonal.
For Emmanation one and two, person one and person two could be substituted, or person one and universe two, or Earth one and God two and so on. The principle is universal....
Parallel Times - watergaze - 09-09-2014
DanJones wrote:Our total being consists of two axis of time moving in opposite directions. One is moving from order to disorder and the other is moving from disorder to order.DanJones wrote:One of the glows of awareness comes from one's father and knows time in its own way. The other glow comes from one's mother and knows time in its own way. The combined glows knows time in its own way.
I have not seen/thought of this as time tracks. But putting things into how you understand things would it make sense to you that the order of the mother is the disorder of the daughter and the order of the father is the disorder of the son? It might not be related, since I do not understand why you look at it as time tracks.. though it would make sense that during our lives as things change etc it can be seen as movement through time then too.
DanJones wrote:So in essence we have three time tracks or to put it another way we have three attentions built in us that start out in the assemblage point and then can with pratice be projected outward to create a being with full use of its totallity.
have to admit I do not get this part in praxis. the projecting... Can you say some more on this? Projecting time tracks... Would like to understand better how you use and understand the words 'time track' and 'projecting' in context of reaching the totality.
Parallel Times - DanJones - 09-09-2014
Watergaze, when Don Juan said that Mankind needs to embrace the mystery of the assemblage point, I considered this to be where to direct my Seeing. I always thought of the AP as a single amber EM and it never made sense that we would have two AP's, Will and Reason. So, how do we shift from Will to Reason and back?
Also why would any EM be preferred in our luminous mass as the center of the rest as they are all equal. I watched Gavin Wince's, 'Dark Side of Time', and 'Evolution of Time' and my jaw dropped.....
We have been wondering about missing anti-matter in the science community and it turns out that matter and anti-matter can get along very well as long as they don't occupy the same space at the same time. Picture matter (your physical body) moving along with other matter in the same direction of time but at varying rates of the passage of time. Then picture your anti-matter self moving along with other anti-matter in the same direction of time with varing rates of the passage of time but moving in the opposite direction of time from matter.
We are two beings that are one being which are two that are one and so on. The side that is matter becoming anti-matter and back to matter is our Tonal. The side that is anti-matter becoming matter and back to anti-matter is our Nagual. The fact that the Nagual is made of anti-matter and going in the opposite direction in time from the Tonal means there is no way for the Tonal to ever understand the Nagual and I also would suggest the opposite is also true.
On to the AP. When Humans have sex their EM's become agitatied and the cumulation being one EM separates from the father and one separates from the mother and the two EMs fuse into one. Each EM has its own (I am) idenity with the power of NOW moving along in time.
Since matter and anti-matter are opposite in electrical charge, they want to pull together and annilate one another. The EMs are eternal and they are made of time going in both directions. The Binding Force uses the fact that men typically supply the matter/forward time EM and women supply the anti-matter/backward time EM. This way the EMs can come together into the same place but they miss each other in time. Instead of annilating one another they have an identity crisis of now I am one and now I am two process.
We now have two EMs behaving as one which can now be the AP because there is a distinct difference between the AP and the other EMs in the luminous mass.
The Nagual Sees increasing order in the universe and the Tonal Sees increasing disorder in the Universe.
On the Tonal side we are treated to a world where decay overcomes order flowing into Oblivion and on the Nagual side we are treated to a world where order overcomes decay flowing out of Oblivion.
The three part nature of our AP gives us four rings of power that organize into two sets. One set is made of Will and in its center is Reason going forward and back in time and the other set is made of Intent and in its center is Feeling going forward and back in time.
Knowledge and Power......
I have a diagram I will post that will show you what I am doing in that last statement. It's a ripper.......
Parallel Times - serloco - 09-10-2014
Cool that you are using power and gaining. However I must say that you may to rewrite the terminology in regards to your usage.
Rolling force is made of positive and negative forces, life and death. Antimatter, anti-mass etc are terms becoming out of date. In fact the recent research on matter and form has been seeing that matter can be seen as merely wavelengths of information that gets aligned into due to the values of the knowledge that the observer is focusing onto to, and so if he thinks it is matter then matter is what he sees, but if he thinks it is light then light is what he sees and not matter.
When you apply 'antimatter' here, which is not matter, but negative energy, you are applying negative energy that releases the form of 'physical' knowledge, and replaces it with a form of light knowledge. The anti-energy is merely a 'turnover' or turnaround rthat reformed the essence of the locked potential into a new formation, or alignment into the AP.
The tonal is the known and the nagual is the unknown. If you know what anti-energy is (its current form and reaction) then anti matter is the tonal. If you are releasing a tonal form using death, release, antienergy etc, and you know the form you want the free energy to flow into, the new form, then nothing nagual is present. Everything is in the tonal. If you are releasing negative energy to free a form but have no idea how it will reform and you are not guiding it, nor controlling it then this is the nagual. The unknown.
You speak of oblivion.. One of the greatest features of both live and death is it's ability to retain all information it comes into contact with. You may have heard the ancient terms for death being the reaper of the harvest, or the rolling force that collects all awareness? Stores all knowledge and forms?
In space, our universe, as they say, is still both made of life and death, as all things are. Now when a sun dies is collapses into itself, pulling everything into it, and even forming a 'hole'. btw the hole is the absence of form. distance, and matter, between one point and another. the hole itself is complete absence. now the hole sucks everything into one place, a point. just as the universe has been seen expanding and collapsing. to and from one point. all points into one place! this is because matter and anti matter, have collided, merged, into a single point. this is because distance becomes a negative value, becoming 0. in fact all value of all form becomes 0. oblivion is empty free space, nothingness where anything may now form anew. all the potential is freed. the form is now pure. when + and - energies work together pure energy is made. this is how negative energy folds space from one to another, as well as how it contracts/folds/unites information and awareness into a singular point (singularity). all things get placed into this point, this singular beginning that started from nothing. This place has a full positive and a full negative and equally empty values as well, together. It means that everything is created right now, and at the same time not created also. Every possibility of creation is being created and every outcome succeeds and fails so that all things may be. All through two values + and -. < and >, 0+ and 0-. and its all right now, in a supermoment, all moments simultaneously. Everything and nothing.
What this means is that the past is existing right now, not then. And yet exists in both states as 'then' being separate form now, and then being right now, and not to mention many other things as well. It is how time is perceived that creates its outcome. What is real to you is how you will experience reality. What do you think a history book is? If you think it is written in the past and cannot be changed because it is already done then that is the wavelength value of energy that you align into your point. And so you read what you know. But if you begin to apply negative energy to the book, to your awareness of time being past, and open a hole into the past becoming(forming) now, into'through the book, then you can use this bridge in many ways now, because it is happening now. holes or bridges can be made into many things indeed. it is the absence of past, or separation, distance, etc, that unites time, awareness, information etc. when you free it into the now, then it can change into something new. no longer locked in place the past can change and time can change, and yet all the time generated is still existing. all time becomes infinite here, free flowing and all existing. one dream into another and another, all in the same place, and all in the same time. it is motion and balance of life and death. to become a pheonix my human form must apply negative energy to itself just as the night brings new day, transforming myself in death and so out of the ashes springs forth my new form.
Parallel Times - Silver Wind - 09-10-2014
" What do you think a history book is? If you think it is written in the past and cannot be changed because it is already done then that is the wavelength value of energy that you align into your point. And so you read what you know. But if you begin to apply negative energy to the book, to your awareness of time being past, and open a hole into the past becoming(forming) now, into'through the book, then you can use this bridge in many ways now, because it is happening now. holes or bridges can be made into many things indeed. it is the absence of past, or separation, distance, etc, that unites time, awareness, information etc. when you free it into the now, then it can change into something new. no longer locked in place the past can change and time can change, and yet all the time generated is still existing. all time becomes infinite here, free flowing and all existing. one dream into another and another, all in the same place, and all in the same time. it is motion and balance of life and death. to become a pheonix my human form must apply negative energy to itself just as the night brings new day, transforming myself in death and so out of the ashes springs forth my new form."
I really like this point you made serloco.
Parallel Times - Silver Wind - 09-10-2014
Dan Jones these are excellent topics you've posted here, haven't had time to read all of these recent thread you've made, but I know your posts from before, appreciate your way of seeing into perception and sharing with us for discussions. I hope to respond to some.
Parallel Times - serloco - 09-10-2014
Silver Wind wrote:" What do you think a history book is? If you think it is written in the past and cannot be changed because it is already done then that is the wavelength value of energy that you align into your point. And so you read what you know. But if you begin to apply negative energy to the book, to your awareness of time being past, and open a hole into the past becoming(forming) now, into'through the book, then you can use this bridge in many ways now, because it is happening now. holes or bridges can be made into many things indeed. it is the absence of past, or separation, distance, etc, that unites time, awareness, information etc. when you free it into the now, then it can change into something new. no longer locked in place the past can change and time can change, and yet all the time generated is still existing. all time becomes infinite here, free flowing and all existing. one dream into another and another, all in the same place, and all in the same time. it is motion and balance of life and death. to become a pheonix my human form must apply negative energy to itself just as the night brings new day, transforming myself in death and so out of the ashes springs forth my new form."
I really like this point you made serloco.
Glad you liked it. Here is a good article I found.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... indonesia/
Parallel Times - DanJones - 09-10-2014
Cool that you are using power and gaining. However I must say that you may to rewrite the terminology in regards to your usage.
I agree Serloco, but to keep everything, 'backwards compatible', I try to use terms to reach a broader audience.
Rolling force is made of positive and negative forces, life and death. Antimatter, anti-mass etc are terms becoming out of date. In fact the recent research on matter and form has been seeing that matter can be seen as merely wavelengths of information that gets aligned into due to the values of the knowledge that the observer is focusing onto to, and so if he thinks it is matter then matter is what he sees, but if he thinks it is light then light is what he sees and not matter.
Actually what the Rolling Force does is first it causes one to go backward in time and then it causes one to go forward in time. The Circular aspect adds Time to our account and the Tumbler subtracts time from our account. The back and forth action is what eventually cracks the Luminous Shell. Serloco, the Nagual is the Universe of anti-matter, while the Tonal is the world of matter. The terms are fine since they do maintain a clear distinction between the two relms. Yes, reality is an interpretation, but why prefer any discription over another. I feel we need to be flexible in how we configure consciousness by trying out different ways of assembling what we are.
When you apply 'antimatter' here, which is not matter, but negative energy, you are applying negative energy that releases the form of 'physical' knowledge, and replaces it with a form of light knowledge. The anti-energy is merely a 'turnover' or turnaround rthat reformed the essence of the locked potential into a new formation, or alignment into the AP.
No, anti-matter is a form of matter that exist inside atoms and can be created through a number of mechanisms. Gravity is where one can find negative energy. Our AP is a delicate arrangment between these two types of substance, where our antimatter part of the AP is wrapped in matter and can witness the Tonal safe from normal matter moving backward in time. The normal matter part of the AP in wrapped in antimatter and can witness the Nagual safely from antimatter moving forward in time.
The tonal is the known and the nagual is the unknown. If you know what anti-energy is (its current form and reaction) then anti matter is the tonal. If you are releasing a tonal form using death, release, antienergy etc, and you know the form you want the free energy to flow into, the new form, then nothing nagual is present. Everything is in the tonal. If you are releasing negative energy to free a form but have no idea how it will reform and you are not guiding it, nor controlling it then this is the nagual. The unknown.
Serloco, to quote Don Juan: "The Tonal is the indescribable unknown filled with order, while the Nagual is the indescribable void that contains everything". The Tonal we use is only meant for life as a human being on the Planet Earth, where it finds food, has sex, seeks shelter and sleeps. And boy howdy is it ever the known as anything from outside can't get in to introduce us to new possibliities. Enoch made that change after seeing how the Watchers did there best to sabatoge the Lineage of Adam, as if the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil debacle wasn't enough.
You speak of oblivion.. One of the greatest features of both live and death is it's ability to retain all information it comes into contact with. You may have heard the ancient terms for death being the reaper of the harvest, or the rolling force that collects all awareness? Stores all knowledge and forms?
What I mean by Oblivion is for the Tonal things are becoming more disordered as time advances having begun as collosal flash of expanding light. Oblivion for the Nagual is where everything started from going towards greater and greater order till one gets back to God.
In space, our universe, as they say, is still both made of life and death, as all things are. Now when a sun dies is collapses into itself, pulling everything into it, and even forming a 'hole'. btw the hole is the absence of form. distance, and matter, between one point and another. the hole itself is complete absence. now the hole sucks everything into one place, a point. just as the universe has been seen expanding and collapsing. to and from one point. all points into one place! this is because matter and anti matter, have collided, merged, into a single point. this is because distance becomes a negative value, becoming 0. in fact all value of all form becomes 0. oblivion is empty free space, nothingness where anything may now form anew. all the potential is freed. the form is now pure. when + and - energies work together pure energy is made. this is how negative energy folds space from one to another, as well as how it contracts/folds/unites information and awareness into a singular point (singularity). all things get placed into this point, this singular beginning that started from nothing. This place has a full positive and a full negative and equally empty values as well, together. It means that everything is created right now, and at the same time not created also. Every possibility of creation is being created and every outcome succeeds and fails so that all things may be. All through two values + and -. < and >, 0+ and 0-. and its all right now, in a supermoment, all moments simultaneously. Everything and nothing.
When a single Emanation pushes out to Infinity this is called Intent. When a single Emanation pulls in from Infinity this is called Will. Black Holes happen when Will wins over Intent and Intent is curved and bent back until it flows back into Will at the center of the Black Hole where Time stops and Space collapses to an infinitally small point.
What this means is that the past is existing right now, not then. And yet exists in both states as 'then' being separate form now, and then being right now, and not to mention many other things as well. It is how time is perceived that creates its outcome. What is real to you is how you will experience reality. What do you think a history book is? If you think it is written in the past and cannot be changed because it is already done then that is the wavelength value of energy that you align into your point. And so you read what you know. But if you begin to apply negative energy to the book, to your awareness of time being past, and open a hole into the past becoming(forming) now, into'through the book, then you can use this bridge in many ways now, because it is happening now. holes or bridges can be made into many things indeed. it is the absence of past, or separation, distance, etc, that unites time, awareness, information etc. when you free it into the now, then it can change into something new. no longer locked in place the past can change and time can change, and yet all the time generated is still existing. all time becomes infinite here, free flowing and all existing. one dream into another and another, all in the same place, and all in the same time. it is motion and balance of life and death. to become a pheonix my human form must apply negative energy to itself just as the night brings new day, transforming myself in death and so out of the ashes springs forth my new form.
The time I experience relative to myself is Present time and I have a past and a future. When I observe change in an object or person relative to me, the time I apply to them is called Period, and it has an ordering of events called before and after. The rate I move through time and the rate an external person or thing goes through time is called Passage and it can have positive and negative values. Everything has a Present, Period, and Passage time and they relate as I have stated above.
Serloco, if you get the chance, watch Gavin Wince's, 'Evolution of Time'. If the guy isn't a double being and a closet Nagual then I don't know people. I look forward to many back and forth posts.
Parallel Times - DanJones - 09-11-2014
Silver Wind, thanks for the compliment. By the way, where is the fricken spell check? Anyway, I have been at this discipline for 40 years now. It started out with me pitting the Human Inventory against what I was being introduced to and having one major anxiety attack after another. The Flyer that was keeping me ignorant almost made it impossible to keep going. I trained Martial Arts for 30 years and it helped to developed my Will and Intent. My double knows how to act on its own and a lot of what I post is questions I have that my double goes out and gets the answer for me. I could try Dreamways style of Using lucid dreaming to quiz the Jinn, but since I am making gains the way I am going I am happy.
Parallel Times - Silver Wind - 09-11-2014
Serloco, yes thats it! History keeps 'reintroducing itself' to us. Just when there seems to be a definitive answer (to the past, to history) something else comes along to change the dynamic...,if the ap is open that is. If not, then reality stabilizes, not a good thing. That's why it's said sorcerers are crazy eh?
Parallel Times - Silver Wind - 09-11-2014
Dan Jones, how fantastic the double informs you! That's what Don Juan was seeking to impart to Carlos, about leaving behind rationality as a thought process and to enter into direct seeing/knowing. It's a bodily experience no?
Parallel Times - serloco - 09-11-2014
Dan Jones...
Yeah we probably have a lot to talk of. I've been exploring alternate dimensions of reality for a long time now, many parallel and many very different. For over 10 years and in different rates of time far exceeding conventional old world time. Compressed time zones set within varying alternate placements. I learned while exploring alternate parallels simultaneously existing to cross over into other outcomes of creation. Being that every outcome of creation is created.
I have also had timelines be erased from time, but not from my continuity. I can cross into different universes entirely. I have cast black holes onto walls that began sucking everything into them before I closed it. Different portals or wormholes for different things. Even when i conceive of your idea of 'passage' i see a portal open connecting the values I set for this placement.
I leave time sometimes. Or she becomes a living Goddess or God for me. I can enter into pure time. Where all time is, and all time is free moving, to and from all time, and every outcome of every time. A source of all time. I can create the universe around me, the history I set etc. I can enter before time was created, and into any arrangement time has become. I can jump into the source connection to all time existing right now, in every outcome of it at once. Though I can not remember all of this now, I can use this in many ways and do so in my continuity. I have studied and seen everything I ever sought to see and experience so far. I am at the point of conjuring forms of mystical creatures into life, crazy I know but nothing holds me back. I can take from a single light, or moment now, the entire spectrum of soul, like a harp of life that arcs, or arches light into form, or life from any source into any source. It is like an Angel Harp of Life that flows to and from any source of all creation. A song that sings any life. I enjoy the song of the pheonix lately. Oh time Will you sing to me now? With your wings fly me to the heights of flight itself! To be omnipotent!
Parallel Times - serloco - 09-11-2014
Silver Wind wrote:Serloco, yes thats it! History keeps 'reintroducing itself' to us. Just when there seems to be a definitive answer (to the past, to history) something else comes along to change the dynamic...,if the ap is open that is. If not, then reality stabilizes, not a good thing. That's why it's said sorcerers are crazy eh?
I am almost tempted to command the future to prove some amazing and impossible discovery in the past or ancient history that is not found yet. My past is always free and open, forming now, and even reforming again if I focus back again in a new way. With intent, or with consequence from time windows, or communication into past or future. But pure prophecy is clean, and clear, and percise. If you intend exact things then the exactness will manifest perfectly. Any variable you cast, you can also set. I always knew that hooobits were real did you? What about ancient wizards? Dragons and pheonix? I was onced asked what animal i wanted to become from an ally. I could see that he was willing me to become freely any animal I stated. I thought for a second about a dragon, and thought it wasn't real, then i said that they are indeed real and chose one. That night the Ally spoke again to me and said with an arch in his voice crosst the street here and you will become a dragon. Already fire was in my words and breath and my very attention was fused with a diamond flame. I crossed the street and felt every sensation of my bodily awareness shift into a dragon's body. I learned a lot about fire from that ally, and how to merge my intent and will to a perfect flame. The fire of our actions, our intent and our will. My ally formed once in front of me in our lessons and produced form my awareness of the flame an eternal perpetual pure flame I had made and pulled it from my mind and handed it to me. Together we quenched the worse fires of their pain and their torment, removing the demon fire buring in the place where we were learning of these flames. Fire that would burn spirits inside of their awareness. We used a black flame to quench these flames, transform them, and shield. "attention flames" that can melt beings in a few seconds. There were many flames I learned. I bit off topic though. lol. but yeah I have seen many different histories, many vastly different form any traditional one, in fact i do not know the history of your timeline in any way.
Parallel Times - Littlepaw - 09-11-2014
Hi people,
I like the activity in this thread, great minds colliding with ideas : )
I have nothing to add about dimensions, I liked the video because it gave me a way to actually think about dimensions. The other topics in this thread seem a little out of my reach, I have been learning about death. The most interesting thing I can say conclusively is that I have seen how we can die and still live. Sounds funny : ) The most clear example I have is the attitudes and behaviours of teenage years, I believe that some attitudes and behaviours actually die or rather the person we are actually dies, I do not behave the same way or think the same way.
Parallel Times - Littlepaw - 09-11-2014
i think relationships die and with those relationships part of us can die, perhaps it is like this the whole time, constantly born while fending off death. The concept of shields comes to mind!
Parallel Times - DanJones - 09-11-2014
Silver Wind your Double also does the same as mine.
The problem we all have is this internal dialogue we have been given during our socialization years is very, very disfunctional for Sorcerers to use.
The Double has the power to act, but since it is made of a different form of matter that doesn't have a mold like our body has, we have to create a mold for it or it has to create a mold for itself.
This is where the Eight Points really shine.
Rather than using something from the Human Inventory for the Double to mold itself, we instead use what I call a, 'Fundemental Internalized Abstract', that has nothing to do with being Human and let that be used by the Double to mold itself.
Later I will talk about how the Double uses the Eight Points to function.
I often have the sensation of my Double looking over my shoulder at what I am percieving with my normal body and making connections that it can then use to re-configure itself.
The Double can be anything it chooses to be.
We just need to stay receptive on this side of what the Double wants and needs from us.
The Double communicates with the Self through the use of Silent Knowledge, while the Self communicates with the Double through the use of Commands.
Suddenly I know what it wants me to do, or it leaves and when it returns I am flooded with answers, or I make a command and it carries it out.
The Internal Dialogue from this side, is us, giving the Double a lot of insane commands over and over again that it is unwilling or unable to obey and it either goes catatonic or leaves entirely. Can you really honestly blame it for telling you it doesn't like being a part of you (not you but each and every one of us).......
Parallel Times - DanJones - 09-11-2014
Serloco, could you spread your sentences out so they can be understood one at a time?
I need you to do this because I know you, Littlepaw, and Silver wind are smelling blood in the water when it comes to creating a death rattle for the Human Form and now we need to really get on board with one another.
Also, my Double wants to understand you, and it can't when your thoughts are too close together.
Traveling along my Time Line is something I like to do also.
When something about the Present is wrong due to something I intended in the past, I go back and change what I intended in order to correct the Present.
Dreamways describes this spell better than me and he talks about it under the topic 'Changing your fate'. or something similar (I will find the exact article and post it under this thread)
I am 64 years old and I intend to make Nagualism my sole focus for the years I have remaining alive.
Parallel Times - DanJones - 09-11-2014
Good to hear from you.
Where would you like to take this thread?
I want to get on board with you and the other Sorcerers that inhabit this site and keep making gains in our struggle to finally understand just what in the Hell we really are.
Parallel Times - DanJones - 09-11-2014
i think relationships die and with those relationships part of us can die, perhaps it is like this the whole time, constantly born while fending off death. The concept of shields comes to mind!
Having half of our being going backwards in time while the other half goes forward in time means we can stay in one place in that over here our body doesn't decay immediately because the Double can undo what happens to the body.
Extreme case is the Nagual Julian who could look young or old at will and also choose where and when one dies.
The Double must be strong, and the body must be also be strong for there to be a lasting team.
Parallel Times - Silver Wind - 09-13-2014
"I have nothing to add about dimensions, I liked the video because it gave me a way to actually think about dimensions. The other topics in this thread seem a little out of my reach, I have been learning about death. The most interesting thing I can say conclusively is that I have seen how we can die and still live. Sounds funny : ) The most clear example I have is the attitudes and behaviours of teenage years, I believe that some attitudes and behaviours actually die or rather the person we are actually dies, I do not behave the same way or think the same way."
I liked your observation Littlepaw. I think it can be used to 'give a boost' of energy...for seeing, for dreaming. The way to do this is to realize who we were a decade ago, two decades ago, a year ago, a month ago, an hour ago...whoever that person was,, IS not us. Like the snake we shed our skin and eternally renew. The intent to make the past 'self' who we are now is a maneuver of intent only. A placement of the ap. There is no other connection besides this act of intent. In other words, as you say, 'who we were' is truly dead now. That 'was' is not us. Yes we intend a chain of continuity, it grounds attention. But this small thread of awareness is the only link. We can keep this link light and malleable with attention on this Phoenix-aspect of life/time/energy flow.
Parallel Times - Silver Wind - 09-13-2014
serloco wrote:
Silver Wind wrote:Serloco, yes thats it! History keeps 'reintroducing itself' to us. Just when there seems to be a definitive answer (to the past, to history) something else comes along to change the dynamic...,if the ap is open that is. If not, then reality stabilizes, not a good thing. That's why it's said sorcerers are crazy eh?
I am almost tempted to command the future to prove some amazing and impossible discovery in the past or ancient history that is not found yet. My past is always free and open, forming now, and even reforming again if I focus back again in a new way. With intent, or with consequence from time windows, or communication into past or future. But pure prophecy is clean, and clear, and percise. If you intend exact things then the exactness will manifest perfectly. Any variable you cast, you can also set. I always knew that hooobits were real did you? What about ancient wizards? Dragons and pheonix? I was onced asked what animal i wanted to become from an ally. I could see that he was willing me to become freely any animal I stated. I thought for a second about a dragon, and thought it wasn't real, then i said that they are indeed real and chose one. That night the Ally spoke again to me and said with an arch in his voice crosst the street here and you will become a dragon. Already fire was in my words and breath and my very attention was fused with a diamond flame. I crossed the street and felt every sensation of my bodily awareness shift into a dragon's body. I learned a lot about fire from that ally, and how to merge my intent and will to a perfect flame. The fire of our actions, our intent and our will. My ally formed once in front of me in our lessons and produced form my awareness of the flame an eternal perpetual pure flame I had made and pulled it from my mind and handed it to me. Together we quenched the worse fires of their pain and their torment, removing the demon fire buring in the place where we were learning of these flames. Fire that would burn spirits inside of their awareness. We used a black flame to quench these flames, transform them, and shield. "attention flames" that can melt beings in a few seconds. There were many flames I learned. I bit off topic though. lol. but yeah I have seen many different histories, many vastly different form any traditional one, in fact i do not know the history of your timeline in any way.
Good points. Anyone on the path of Nagualism needs to revise any timelines passed on to them from culture, school, religion etc. The more correct application is a time web or matrix eh? Something M. C. Echeresque looking.
Parallel Times - Silver Wind - 09-13-2014
"Rather than using something from the Human Inventory for the Double to mold itself, we instead use what I call a, 'Fundemental Internalized Abstract', that has nothing to do with being Human and let that be used by the Double to mold itself."
Dan Jones, inner silence then is what I understand you to mean by an internalized abstract. Because inner silence pulls one away from the inventory. Creates 'space' for something new.