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((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Don Genardo Sacateca - 10-31-2011

I spent the whole day up in the mountains. What a medicine to my
soul it is to be there for a whole day. It's as though my whole being
has been washed clean. I must admit I can get very grumpy if I don't
spend quality time with Mother Nature.
I learned that I can have either good feelings, bad feelings or...
((( NEUTRAL FEELINGS )))

Neutral
feelings are only available to those who can stop their internal
dialogue at will. Those who cannot stop their internal dialogue are
limited to either having good or bad feelings about their lives.
I
was told by Intent that all I have to do to increase my strength in
amazingly powerful ways is to cut back on all thoughts and activities
that weaken me.
Keeping this in mind it is a good thing that I am
now in the Off Topic forum as I Intend to do what I was instructed to
do and cut back on arguing with ineffective people. It drains me of the
good in me and does me no real good. Ineffective people never learn and
don't care about bettering themselves. They are determined to make cheap
excuses and find fault with all success strategies. Arguing with them
is a very bad investment in myself; and that's a fact!
I was told
that The Secret was a very special Spiritual Gift to mankind. I was
told that the Universe responds to all those who passionately say that
'The Secret doesn't work' by granting their WISH. For those who are
passionately certain The Secret doesn't work your wish has been granted!
((( THE SECRET WILL NOT WORK...FOR YOU!! )))
Congratulations! You have gotten your wish!!
I
KNOW The Secret works for me because I am 'seeing' the benefits of my
properly held thoughts manifesting wonderful things into my empirical
life!
It is no fantasy!!
My certainty that The Secret
works is my wish granted by The Universe. Just as your wish was granted
my wish that The Secret Works fantastic is also coming true for me and
my loved ones!!
We've just had some fantastic manifestations and we're looking forward to greater manifestations to come!
Life has never been more exciting!!


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-01-2011

Those
brainwashed blind by the system of The Tyrant which is intent on raping
and destroying the Earth for financial profit cannot conceive that
there are things much more valuable than gold in the Universe. The
Special Favor of the Spirit of Intent and that of Mother Nature is
indeed worth more than gold. However, the pain of suffering for doing
good that must be paid for receiving special favors is indeed a
deterrent. I say that if Mother Nature is going to make it so very
difficult for humans to realize that the Earth is a living being She is
asking for trouble from humanity. This is not a wise thing to say for it
tends to get Mother Nature somewhat angry and that is definitely NOT to
my benefit. The answer to this statement of mine I have received is
very difficult to translate, but it goes something like:
'You should not complain because you feel that rocks are too hard'
Supposedly,
it means that's the way things are and they are NOT going to change for
me. If you want the prize of the special favor of Mother Nature and the
Spirit of Intent you either pay the price of suffering THEY determine
or you don't get the prize, period!
I'm
being forced to pay that price and it often hurts like hell. This is
why Intent and Mother Nature arranged it so that I could retire young.
There is no way I could hold down a job and deal with this pain
inflicted upon me by Intent and Mother Nature. It's a pressure that can
be so devastating that I go through periods where I cannot function at
all. Then the proverbial storm clears, the sun comes out and I find
myself stronger in some indescribable way. Another invisible medal is
awarded me and when I go to Power Spots I am treated greater than any
human king.
I
drink freely from the mountain stream and it does not hurt me to do so
for the living water is my friend and all the plants and animals up
there are my friends. I entertain Mother Nature by making fun of the
roosters with my ridiculous rooster imitations that deliberately sound
like a rooster dying from some exotic pulmonary disease.
'UR, UR, UR, ur, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....croak!'
While flapping my arms
I
am encouraged to watch the mountain stream in states of inner-silence
envisioning my entire being made washed whole and clean. Often it seems
like I was meditating for about 10 minutes when in actuality about an
hour has gone by. I enter a state of timelessness; the timeless realm of
Intent
Sang along with Good Morning from the movie musical Singing in the Rain with Gene Kelly, Debbie Reynolds and Donald O'Connor.
Good morning, Good morning to you!
Still working on it, but my version is going to be a heck of a lot sillier


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-01-2011

Hey, they know they are being silly
but I intend to be a lot sillier as I perform this for Mother Nature


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-02-2011

Up in the mountains, surrounds by Mother Nature, I could feel the Spirit of Intent speaking to me through the book!
Especially in the passages I am about to share

I must admit that I was having problems with thinking of humanity in loving ways
Up in the mountains Mother Nature does not like humans, in general, and that affects my mood
Intent has transformed me so that I am, supposedly, more like Adam before he was kicked out of the Garden

I thought about The Power video clip and how humans have very little to do with what is presented and that Mother Nature takes center stage in the video clip.
As I did so, I kept focusing my Intent on increasing my love for Mother Nature
that's when I learned to think of humans with neutral thoughts for with neutral thoughts
there is no judgment one way or the other
Again I was reminded that Neutral Emotions are only available to those who can silence their internal dialogue at will. To those who cannot they have either positive or negative emotions to choose from.
Good feelings and bad feelings have one thing in common: they both involve judgments. Neutral feelings involve BEING without any judgements and in states of inner-silence the Universal Spirit of Intent can choose to guide and reveal wonderful things directly from the source.
As long as we judge we remain in the realm of opposites. Beyond the realm of opposites is where Intent exists; in a continual state of timelessness. I've learned that properly held internal silence can be the gateway into the realm of Intent; which is the realm of timelessness.

From a state of inner-silence I then read this passage over and over and was transformed from within:

"If you have been living your life saying to yourself, "I will be happy when I have a better house," "I will be happy when I get a job or promotion, " "I will be happy when the kids are through college, " "I will be happy when we have more money, " "I will be happy when I can travel, " or "I will be happy when my business is a success," you will never have those things because your thoughts are defying the way love works.
They're defying the law of attraction.
You have to be happy first, and give happiness, to receive happy things! It can't happen any other way, because whatever you want to receive in life, you must give first! You are in command of your feelings, you are in command of your love, and the force of love will give back to you whatever you give out."

MY COMMENT:
I put down the Kindle and thought about how I've been accustomed to saying, "I'll be happy when I finally get strong enough." I wondered about this and was told by the Spirit that the strength I seek is already available. I have gotten much stronger than I realize, but I am not realizing my full strength because I keep cancelling myself out by indulging in thoughts and actions that weaken me. I was directed to think of all the energy I have been consistently wasting. I MUST cut back on all thoughts and activities that weaken me and devote myself to thinking and doing the things that make me stronger!
It's logical and reasonable indeed!


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-02-2011




((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-02-2011

Well,
I just got through doing another 100 situps on my Roman Chair; going
into a back-bend position with each and every repetition. I did them in
sets of 25 and in-between sets I did 25 jumping squats while working my
back using an elastic device draped over my chin-up bar totaling: 100
situps & 100 squats.
Just thought you should know that I
have been involved with martial arts and bodybuilding for many years and
have created my own style of Tai Chi.
I believe that people
should be like walking countries in that you can talk peace all you
like, but you had better be ready for war or you just may lose
everything!
Calling 911 in a personal emergency will probably get
you the police arriving to pick up the pieces of what is left. Well,
that's my current view. I don't believe in being helpless in a virtual
Sodom & Gomorrah society obviously headed for extinction as a
species.


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-02-2011

Being raised in America I am continually
amazed how long it took for me to finally shake off the chains upon my
mind put there by the Christian religion. It can be a scary thing to
think for oneself. After-all, according to Christianity we are all going
to hell for not allowing the Christian religion to control our lives.
Studying into the history of Christianity we are expected to blindly
believe that Jesus rose from the dead, but had no power to stop the
torturous Catholic Inquisitions for at least HUNDREDS OF YEARS!!! We're
talking a very long time where people were being tortured to death by
the Catholic church in the name of Jesus Christ. Horrible stuff that,
apparently, took Jesus hundreds of years to stop. Kind of makes one
wonder just how powerful Jesus actually is. He could supposedly walk on
water and rise from the dead, but was powerless to stop people being
tortured in His name for hundreds of years. Something to consider, eh?
You
would think the human race learned its lesson and that the Protestants
would be different, but the Salem witch trials in the Americas would
prove that humans just don't seem to learn.
Then they were over
and you would think that the human race finally learned its lessons
about torturing people to death in the name of God, right?

((( WRONG!! )))
Unless
I am mistaken, In fundamentalist Islamic Muslim countries such
practices are still going on. People are being tortured and killed in
the name of God. People go to church for fear of being persecuted by the
police.
It's an amazing thing to consider that such practices
are the work of those who treat certain books as though they are
'infallible and inerrant'.
So, The Secret is then given to the
world. I believe The Secret is a precious gift of the Spirit to the
human race. Obviously, the bulk of the human race does not deserve such a
gift. The naysayers, whom I have argued with too often on the Internet,
say all kinds of ridiculously ignorant things about The Secret. EVERY
SINGLE TIME I openly challenge them to list the three main things they
disagree with about The Secret they either cannot list so much as one
thing or they say some ridiculous thing that The Secret teaches all you
have to do is wish for something in order for it to appear. I have found
this to be so practically everywhere I have gone on the Internet and
have boldly defended The Secret philosophy.
Like it or not, in
the final analysis, The Secret will NEVER be encouraging people to be
tortured to death for not believing in it. I don't see how humans can
justify The Secret to be inferior to any religious belief that advocates
'God loves you and will have you tortured for all eternity if you do
not return His love'


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-02-2011

My tone today is somewhat morose,
but last night I watched a PBS Frontline program and awoke from a nightmare.
The program was called
The Anthrax Files:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/anthrax-files/
I
came into the program when the FBI was accusing an innocent man of
being the anthrax killer. He was Dr Steven Hatfill who was persecuted
and wrongfully accused for, I believe, A FIVE-YEAR INVESTIGATION. They
could find no evidence to convict the man and, to the surprise of the
FBI, he went on the offensive publicly accusing Ashcroft of breaking
American law in his persecution and breaking the Biblical commandment
"thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor". Eventually Dr
Hatfill won a FIVE-MILLION-DOLLAR lawsuit against the American
government for invasion of privacy.
Then the FBI went after a
scientist who had won an award from the American government for his work
in creating an Anthrax vaccine. Even though they could find no evidence
linking him to the crime, beyond all reasonable doubt, they persecuted
this man until Dr Bruce Ivins eventually took his own life.
It
really shook me up that the American government can still do such things
to people. Psychological tortures can be powerful indeed! Only the very
strong like Dr Hatfill can endure them. This wimpy old scientist, Dr
Bruce Ivins, couldn't handle it and killed himself.
Don't think such things could ever happen to you? I wouldn't be at all surprised if James Arthur Ray felt that way before...
((( JAMES ARTHUR RAY WAS SETUP!! )))
I
am convinced a day is coming when the world will realize that James
Arthur Ray was indeed setup. Like Amanda Knox, Mr Ray's conviction
should be overturned due to a sloppy investigation.


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-02-2011

I just had to share this about the PBS
Anthrax Files program because after watching this part again online it
was so ridiculous...I still can't believe they did this. The FBI used
their 'infallible and inerrant' bloodhounds and traced the peculiar
scent of the anthrax letters to a pond where they came to conclusion
that Dr Hatfill had created the anthrax in an underwater lab. So...THEY
DRAINED THE POND wasting many taxpayer dollars. It took them three to
four weeks to drain the pond and cost tax payers about a quarter of a
million dollars only to find...a turtle trap.
I'm laughing as a
write this because it is too ridiculous to be true but you should find
this in the second part of the PBS Frontline program at about 17 minutes
into the program.
Amazing just how crazy law enforcement officials can be!
I don't think they are any "saner" today!
I mean, they couldn't consider getting either expert scuba divers or a minisub to check the pond?
It was a small pond, for crying out loud!
Friggin nuts!


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Guest - 11-02-2011

Guess what, 'Mother Nature' or 'God' didn't stop those tortures either. And how many innocent deaths has 'Mother Nature' caused?





Either there is a God and free will, or there is no purpose to life and every thing is an accident and meaningless (or something else, enlighten me).







The only way I can imagine a 'good' God allowing evil is...





if that allowing of potential evil actually creates the potential for greater good! In order to truly have free will this automatically creates the option that some may choose 'evil' or that which is not good and love.





Without allowing for the potential for evil then there is no free will, and we are just robots with no choice.







Look at it from an all-wise eternal viewpoint, what is God's endgame? In the grand scheme of things, if the final product is an eternity of a golden age of utopian perfection (or some other supreme value), what would a few thousand or million years of relative hell (human injustice and tragedy) be compared to that, would it be worth it?





Please sincerely look at this.


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-02-2011

A World In Crisis Pt 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... xMYkFLgyhk
This
is the first I remember hearing of the Khazars at the heart of
Illuminati/Vatican New World Order control. I've studied into a number
of things about this nature, but there is only one thing I can say for
certain:
I don't EVER remember seeing film clips of the British
celebrating in the streets when it was reported that Hitler killed
himself. The Europeans had more against Hitler than the Americans had
against Osama Bin Laden. It says volumes about the Americans when they
celebrate over the death of people like Bin Laden and Khadaffi.
I
refuse to celebrate over the misfortune of others UNLESS they do
something against ME PERSONALLY. To celebrate over the misfortune of
others when they have done nothing against YOU personally is not a good
sign about the quality of your relationship with the Spirit of Intent.
That much I know for certain.
As a matter of fact I was openly
celebrating over the banning of a person who was an irritating plague to
me in a different forum. You wanna guess what happened? It went out
into the Universe and blew up in my face and I was banned from that
forum.
That banning is what brought me here. It was a forum in
which I had already philosophically checkmated people who badmouth The
Secret and couldn't list the three main things they disagree with about
The Secret to save their pathetic lives. Yes, I did indeed show them up
over and over for what they actually were and they did not like it one
bit. I was exiled to one of their forums where people hardly ever go. My
biggest petty tyrant plague of a person gloated over my being banished
to that forum. Suddenly he was banned and I celebrated like Hilary
Clinton did over the murder of Khadaffi...and then...I was banned from
the forum.
Hey, it was an important lesson that brought me here and I hope you people can learn it the easy way from this post:
NEVER CELEBRATE THE MISFORTUNE OF OTHERS UNLESS YOU WANT TO RISK THE BACKLASH OF THE UNIVERSE IN YOUR LIVES!!
It is quite simply not a safe thing to do, period
However,
I was forced to see how futile it is to argue with people who are
against The Secret and other good and wholesome philosophies. They often
don't know what they are talking about and they, quite simply, don't
care about improving the quality of their lives and would just LOVE to
tear down your life.
If the choice is to argue with people about
The Secret or using that same energy to apply The Secret and make it
work in your lives, for God's sake, use that precious energy to improve
your life and leave the arguing to fools like the one I used to be
before I came here!


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Guest - 11-02-2011

Why does the 'Spirit of Intent' allow humans to torture other humans? Is the 'Spirit of Intent' evil or uncaring?







What is the true nature of the 'Spirit of Intent'? Is it a sentient force? An Intelligence that is aware?







If the 'Secret' truly worked, nothing evil would ever happen to someone who is 'good', but we know in the world bad things often happen to innocent people. How do you explain that in your philosophy?







I can't force you to reply to me but perhaps I can goad you by saying it would be cowardly and intellectually dishonest not to respond to a sincere rational inquiry.


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-02-2011

I'll be honest. I am reluctant to respond to you because I feel you will start filling up the thread with wasteful posts. I don't mind intelligent commentary. I will answer you if you agree not to fill up this thread with irrelevant ****. So, what's it gonna be? Can I trust you to be honest if you agree to only create intelligent posts on my created threads? There are plenty of other threads to create irrelevant **** on and if you can't find one you can always create your own irrelevant **** thread.
The short answer is: YOU already know the answer to all questions for you and the source are exactly the same and equal. Your problem is you have chosen not to remember before you came into this world. In order to remember you have to REALLY PROVE that you want to remember who you truly are and, for me, that still is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. Intent will only yield its secrets to those who are willing to pay the price for the prize. If you are expecting a free ride from Intent...well, it hasn't happened for me and OBVIOUSLY for most of the human race.
I will say this: Considering all the hell in the world if YOU are not being tortured to death YOU should be EXTREMELY GRATEFUL rather than resentful that others are being tortured to death
That is the core of my answer to you
Um...supposedly, the reason you can't remember who you really are is because YOU DELIBERATELY chose to forget this for a short lifetime.
YOU DIDN'T WANT TO REMEMBER!!!
So you took a short vacation in this life that YOU created
YOU set the parameters of the life you are living and if you Intend to alter the pre-set course you originally made for your life before you came here YOU are going to have to PROVE that you REALLY, REALLY want to change directions and remember more of who you really are!
It hasn't been easy for me to remember more of my true nature. I've now had FIVE painful near-death experiences and I still have infinity to go
Okay, I feel Intent wants me to tell you:
BOREDOM is what has brought evil into being. BOREDOM so profound that you would do ANYTHING to at least temporarily escape the boredom of being All Powerful and having things too easy
EVERYONE deliberately chooses the life they will live. They pre-approve that life. It's amazing to consider a boredom so profound and intense that a person would choose a life of being tortured to death just to help renew appreciation for having it TOO EASY in the heavenly realms of the Spirit.
Then again...
Everything in this post may be incorrect


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-02-2011

Giorgio A. Tsoukalos
The Quest for Ancient Aliens
He's
silly, but he's obviously very intelligent. It's always fun to watch
his segments in the Ancient Aliens series. I own ALL the seasons and
have already pre-ordered the next season with amazon.com. Fascinating
stuff! Don't think it's all as they believe but...WOW!!
I am
still especially amazed by those MASSIVE rock walls in Peru apparently
put together by melting the GIANT ROCKS with EXTREME heat. He said that
they look like they were formed by turning the giant rocks in to putty.
Mo mortar was used. Every time I think of those giant rocks fitting
together so seamlessly...well....
I'll tell you what I don't like
about the Ancient Aliens series. It REALLY makes me want to be able to
go back in time and see how it was done. I am tempted to get frustrated
that I can't go back in time and see how those incredible walls were
created.


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-02-2011




((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Guest - 11-03-2011

Thanks for responding; I actually regret using such a coercive tactic to get you to reply to me, I realize in order to have a true discussion all parties need to desire to take part in it freely and not manipulated through underhanded methods; I feel ashamed kind of.





I really desire to grok and have intelligent discussions concerning the TRUE nature and reality of God/Spirit/Intent/Infinity/Mother Nature/the Secret or what have you but realize this place may not be the place for that... but maybe something fruitful can come out of this...







I think we should always be open to intelligent criticism because if we are not infallible then we can always err in our conclusions, philosophies, or intellectual understanding of things; a real person is always growing not afraid to correct themselves and to root out errors in their reasoning or logic.


In my heart I want to know the TRUTH, no matter what it is, wherever it takes me, so if I can be persuaded or shown the truth in something, I will accept it.





My understanding of the Secret , at its essence, is Thought Creates Reality...





thats true as far as personal subjective experience, if you think in a new positive way you can uplift your mood and attitude and change your whole experience in life, people will react favorably to someone who is happy and smiling rather than someone hating life...  BUT are there limits to this?  If I think of a pink elephant, will one magically manifest in the room?  so I think there are limits to it...





and collectively the Secret works too, ... ultimately it is cause and effect...  but are there limits here also??


I do not necessarily believe in all of the details of the 'Secret' philosophy because I am not sure I know it in its entirety... as I see it it will be as true as it is in alignment with the True Reality of God (Spirit of Intent)-






maybe this is an exercise in futility, if so, I learn my lesson. You cant force someone to have a discussion, it has to organically evolve... otherwise it becomes an interrogation and that is a subtle form of torture....


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Guest - 11-03-2011

Thanks for responding; I actually regret using such a coercive tactic to get you to reply to me, I realize in order to have a true discussion all parties need to desire to take part in it freely and not manipulated through underhanded methods; I feel ashamed kind of.





I really desire to grok and have intelligent discussions concerning the TRUE nature and reality of God/Spirit/Intent/Infinity/Mother Nature/the Secret or what have you but realize this place may not be the place for that... but maybe something fruitful can come out of this...







I think we should always be open to intelligent criticism because if we are not infallible then we can always err in our conclusions, philosophies, or intellectual understanding of things; a real person is always growing not afraid to correct themselves and to root out errors in their reasoning or logic.



In my heart I want to know the TRUTH, no matter what it is, wherever it takes me, so if I can be persuaded or shown the truth in something, I will accept it.







My understanding of the Secret , at its essence, is Thought Creates Reality...





thats true as far as personal subjective experience, if you think in a new positive way you can uplift your mood and attitude and change your whole experience in life, people will react favorably to someone who is happy and smiling rather than someone hating life... BUT are there limits to this? If I think of a pink elephant, will one magically manifest in the room? so I think there are limits to it...





and collectively the Secret works too, ... ultimately it is cause and effect... but are there limits here also??



I do not necessarily believe in all of the details of the 'Secret' philosophy because I am not sure I know it in its entirety... as I see it it will be as true as it is in alignment with the True Reality of God (Spirit of Intent)-







maybe this is an exercise in futility, if so, I learn my lesson. You cant force someone to have a discussion, it has to organically evolve... otherwise it can become an interrogation, a subtle form of torture.... or it is just a monologue


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-03-2011




((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-03-2011




((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-03-2011

Diamond Unicorn wrote:Thanks for responding; I actually regret using such a coercive tactic to get you to reply to me, I realize in order to have a true discussion all parties need to desire to take part in it freely and not manipulated through underhanded methods; I feel ashamed kind of.





I really desire to grok and have intelligent discussions concerning the TRUE nature and reality of God/Spirit/Intent/Infinity/Mother Nature/the Secret or what have you but realize this place may not be the place for that... but maybe something fruitful can come out of this...







I think we should always be open to intelligent criticism because if we are not infallible then we can always err in our conclusions, philosophies, or intellectual understanding of things; a real person is always growing not afraid to correct themselves and to root out errors in their reasoning or logic.



In my heart I want to know the TRUTH, no matter what it is, wherever it takes me, so if I can be persuaded or shown the truth in something, I will accept it.







My understanding of the Secret , at its essence, is Thought Creates Reality...





thats true as far as personal subjective experience, if you think in a new positive way you can uplift your mood and attitude and change your whole experience in life, people will react favorably to someone who is happy and smiling rather than someone hating life... BUT are there limits to this? If I think of a pink elephant, will one magically manifest in the room? so I think there are limits to it...





and collectively the Secret works too, ... ultimately it is cause and effect... but are there limits here also??



I do not necessarily believe in all of the details of the 'Secret' philosophy because I am not sure I know it in its entirety... as I see it it will be as true as it is in alignment with the True Reality of God (Spirit of Intent)-







maybe this is an exercise in futility, if so, I learn my lesson. You cant force someone to have a discussion, it has to organically evolve... otherwise it can become an interrogation, a subtle form of torture.... or it is just a monologue
What you should feel ashamed of is creating **** posts without thinking. You really wanted my response and proved it so I responded. I will respond to you further if you do your best to create intelligent posts. Please don't fill my created threads up with irrelevant ****.
Thanks
COMMENT:
If you have set things up so that no matter what happens you absolutely refuse to remember who you truly are nothing revealed with make any real difference. At best you will find it intriguing then go on to something else.


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Guest - 11-03-2011

I am wary of spirituality being sold and marketed
commercializing can have a corrupting influence
but there may be a lot of 'truth' in the essence of it
I have to grok more


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Guest - 11-03-2011

I am wary of spirituality being sold
and marketed
commercializing can have a corrupting
influence
but there may be degrees of 'truth' in the essence of
it
I have to grok more
I am going to be way more ruthless in investigating supernatural claims
especially if they are selling something


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-03-2011

Thanks for sharing this!
I was wondering about this matter
I have had some bad experiences with Abraham Hicks books
and ended up throwing them all out
I won't get into the matter, but suffice it for me to say...
It's a spiritual thing
After doing more research I now remember that I got a very bad feeling posting in the
Abraham/Hicks forum. They are so exclusive. You can only talk about Abraham/Hicks and
I just got a bad feeling from the mood of the people and the administration there.
Here's a link to an article telling about Esther's Abraham getting meaner with paying followers:
http://www.squidoo.com/es...-turns-mean-with-abraham
I don't know. It's sad, really. I don't celebrate the misfortune of others, but I don't cry over them either
However...well...New Age spirituality is like an invisible field full of traps with many precious jems scattered about as bait
If you don't careful watch your step you'll get trapped, possibly for life.
Heck, the same can be said about ANY organized religion, right?


Did a bit of research because I sensed something about the Hicks
Look at what I found
Jerry Hicks suffering from cancer and receiving heavy chemotherapy:
http://www.squidoo.com/de...and-jerry-hicks-creation


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - seesaw - 11-03-2011

To a certain extent i agree with you about treating all info as fiction until verified. Its a nice concept but actually insanely difficult to do and potentially futile even should we start the task.



When you say we should empirically test everything, what everything? gravity thermodynamics electromagnetics conductance, maths, time, mass, (and this is just from physics.) Then counter check and verify every single one of our empirical verification tools with every single other empirically tested item of data we have gathered.



Realistically its not possible. What we end up doing is making generalisations about the world. A large amount of this is guess work, we accept stuff cos it feels right. Doesnt mean it is right. Its like this statement about empirically testing and verifying everything. If you really test everything then you must include testing the concept too. The moment you do subject the concept to scrutiny it starts to unravel. I am guessing its something that felt right to you but that you didnt check with the same amount of energy that it proposes. Thats a guess btw, a deduction of best fit. I am somewhat prepared to be wrong. Ie i would be surprised but I think i am probably right.



Yes certain people specialize in the empirical verification of phenomena. Engineers, scientists, even philosophers mathematicians and tax inspectors. But i am unaware of anyone who has personally verified every single item issue and subject to those levels. Even if they had, there would always be more knowledge sets outside of what they knew that they would have to check against in order to eliminate uncertainty. How many data samples do we need to be sure? How many data samples do we need before we use can use a concept? What about best fit and fuzzy logic? What about uncertainty, risk and the unknown.



Sorry to be a twat, other than that i have started to get into your posts. Great work on sustained reaction btw. I take my hat off to you for the shere energy and drive you demonstrated.


((( Stronger, Healthier, Happier and Overflowing With Abundant Prosperity!! ))) - Genardo Sacateca - 11-03-2011

Well, I do appreciate intelligent commentary posts that give me something to think about
Thanks to you for creating one
There's a world of difference between saying
I believe...blah, blah, blah
and
Blah, blah, blah
Those who have not empirically verified what they teach should qualify what they say with phrases like "I believe..."
I've had it being tricked by either humans or the Spirit which sometimes tricks me
to keep me on the alert for counterfeit messages