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What is a car? - Mornings Son - 10-20-2010
Was ask if a car is an inorganic being yesterday.
Have been checking out several cars today.
Did not find a car that had any shine of awareness.
A car is made out of Mother Earth - formed by humans with a purpose. This purpose can be seen.
In a glace I saw the face of a elemental being. Remembered a sorcerer write about how our culture have mixed so many elemental spirits in buildings etc. that there is a huge field of confusion on a spirit level. Can't say I have experienced that myself though, but yes there is much confusion in the city. Someone who lives in nature in a wood house might have a interesting view on the differences.
When seeing into spirit realm there is the shadows of the intent and purpose that human created - this has a semi life - but no awareness. They carry a story - there is a psychic impressions imprinted in it.
But a car is not a IB - it might become a host of an IB by the use of sorcery or maybe a ghost could posses it. So a car could get an awareness due to magic. As well as a car could be made into a Power Object.
What is a car? - rosygyro - 10-22-2010
Tere are elements of other sorcerers that will "BLEED THROUGH" common machines such as the car or faucet/tap.
Say for instance another sorcerer moves for an hour immpecably during which time he drives the car..
then durung that time. "for arguments sake" the theorised "planes and spindles" layer of his awarness is PERFECT MACHINE so to speak..
meaning that you as a learning nagual or ebergy MOVER will get a dose through your jewel of immpecability through the nachine aspect of yopur dream...
wether this is when looking AT another car or actaully driving is irrelavent.. what YOU MUST appreciate.. is that "those working in immpecability" will TONAL BLEED into other less immpecable tonals.. along such inert or even polarised concepts such as planes and spindles..
BABY this idea has no reason not to be in existence.. and so it has power both as the unknown YET and in potential energy terms..
the only people who would fight against it are those whop either ignore intelligent co-operation or those who wish to have POWER without first completing the three riddles of man..
which are
according to todays "random" definition..
REFLECTION
CO_OPERATION
CREATIVE DEXTERITY
HARLEYATL'
What is a car? - rosygyro - 10-22-2010
I recognise there is a problem with my spelling and would appreciate to have yhe ability to edit.. as an afterthought.. or even add bits in the middle!
What is a car? - Wei Shan Yang - 10-22-2010
Here in China they always set off fireworks after each building is completed because they believe it chases away the evil spirits that have taken habitation in the new building.
My building is new and there is an IB that comes to my apartment. I have sensed it for a while and a few days ago it made crinkling noises in the kitchen. Scared the frig out of my cat. I went to investigate and tried to take my cat with me but he wanted no part of it. When I went in the kitchen, I saw I had a food wrapper on the counter, so the IB was messing with that to make the noise. Also there was a smell there that I recognize as its presence. There is some electromagnetic energy in that area due to a lot of devices being in that area and I think it uses this to manifest. But it has not been back yet because I think it needs to recharge. I know its trying to make me fearful so as to use that energy that must be discharged during fear.
What is a car? - Wei Shan Yang - 10-22-2010
I want to add how this 'being' or whatever it is first made its appearance. It was about a month ago. I was in the kitchen, cooking. My husband was still at work. Our place is new, we just moved in a month before. I went to go do something. I was walking back to the kitchen and heard a swoosh sound in the hallway. I got into the kitchen and smelled a rancid smell. I checked what I was cooking, lol, thought maybe it was that. It was not. I began to feel despondent all of the sudden. I began to wonder where my husband was and this lead to a mood shift of anxiousness. I went to the window and looked out. The lights of the buildings outside that were normally lit up were all dark. This took me deeper into the mood. I looked out the peek hole in my doorway and the hallway was dark. I decided to go outside and look out the windows of the elevator area, down to the street. I was looking at people on bikes, as my husband bikes to work. I wanted to see him. I finally went back to the apartment. We have a light triggered device in the hallway that kicks in when someone enters the hallway. At one point I saw the light go on. It stayed on. I kept waiting to see who would emerge. No one did. Finally I opened the door and said "are you there?" No one answered. Then a second or so later the elevator opened and my husband emerged. He was surprised to see me looking out the door. I asked him what took him so long to get home. He was surprised at my demeanor, it was forceful. I had never bothered him about his time before. I realized shortly after that I was indirectly blaming him for this entity coming in. I had reasoned that if he had been home sooner, the entity could not have entered and played off my fears in such a way. But I didn't tell him this.
I saw from this experience that whatever was in the apartment was going to play off any sense of powerlessness it could invoke in me. Some would call this evil, but it does no good for me to see it as evil, that would only increase my fears, which is its energy source. Its trying to live like anyone else, even though I don't understand completely its form of exisitence. I may have invited it inadvertently due to getting involved (researching) with the paranormal recently. Plus all my neighbors are renovating their apartments which can stir things up. Some may say its just my imaginings. Either way it does not matter, an experience is an experience and has to be dealt with. The job for me is to not have fear.
What is a car? - rosygyro - 10-23-2010
so where do you stand WEI SHAN YANG! in the battle for freedom...as far as warriorship versus sorcery?
self versus nothing!
all versus nothing
inner-space versus seperatism!
What is a car? - Wei Shan Yang - 10-24-2010
Cool pic.
Where do I stand? Well, I'm faced with having to deal with something I don't fully understand. This challenges me and I like that. On the other hand, I don't want to see more and more negativity emerge from the situation, and feel its up to me to make this not happen. I see I would be the energy source so have to be very precise about that energy and the intent it would carry. I don't seek to fight this being, but rather not to fear it. And truly, to fear it IS to fight it, and this in turn supplies the food for future attacks, so its easy to see the vicious cycle.
Denying it food is not an act of saying to the IB "screw you! starve sucker" but rather seeing that negativity is not good for any being. What is not good for me is not good for any other as well, acknowledging there is no separateness in the spiritual realm. This is something I understood from the very first appearance of it. After I saw how I wanted to blame my husband for its arrival (him getting home late), I instantly knew that was in fact not the route to take, and the only option for me was to not operate from fear or separateness--the fuel source of this IB.
What is a car? - rosygyro - 10-24-2010
So why not understand this!
A petty tyrant is a valuable gift from power if handles correctly!
To hunt down a petty tyrant and allow him to touch your life is insanity itself..
Until the day you learn to handle his power!
Seeking down a petty tyrant!
Wether it be "mr 666 tatood on his neck ,vampire goth from the mall."
or.. "Mr racist redneck, roumoured to have killed three niggers"
or even "mr kung-fu master..who is so determined to force others with energy for applause.. that every one of his students has bad feet!" (one of mine).
well look at the creature again...
IT sought out petty tyrants..
petty tyrants that ruin peoples lives for fun! and by mistake!..
It did it to prove it was alive..
and figured if it could find enough different types of petty tyrant...
one day it would be able to TIE THEM ALL TOGETHER in a rythmical soundcheck.. and get them a room of their own!
But to understand what i said.. You need to see through your fear of what i just said!
No-one
What is a car? - Wei Shan Yang - 10-25-2010
I don't know about that. I just know emotions would be fuel for the IB to manifest. Its not bad, its just a challenge and all I'm looking to get from this is an opportunity to exercise fearlessness and non-judgment (not polarize).
What is a car? - rosygyro - 10-25-2010
Wei Shan Yang wrote:I don't know about that. I just know emotions would be fuel for the IB to manifest. Its not bad, its just a challenge and all I'm looking to get from this is an opportunity to exercise fearlessness and non-judgment (not polarize).
well unfortunatley lu jan the reason people CHOOSE to be petty tyrants in the first place... is so that they can sit with a flyer in their tonal.. AND "exercise fearlessness and non-judgement" whilst the flyer feeds off other people through piggy backing their own perception... Emotions are the fuel you are right..
Emotions are the Bait in the trap
Stalking pain in emotion is the hook..
Because once all the pain in your tonal is used up..
The flyer cannot settle inside your tonal to feed off others...
Once it has nothing to rule you by!.
a tyrants is a victim of sobriety..
although he is rareley aware of it...
being too UN-afraid.. and TOO non-judgemental and TOO objective.. and TOO fluid to realise he is just as scared as others.. only he himself wont admit it or experience it himself within self-stalking..
ONLY one type of person cannot house a flyer!
What is a car? - Wei Shan Yang - 10-26-2010
Take it up with Lujan rosy, I'm Wei.
What is a car? - rosygyro - 10-26-2010
are you certain...?
maybe your stalking lu jan..! from this angle!
Maybe he is containing you in his awarness!
or maybe you have some of his foreign fibres in your body!
needs to be clear..
wether doubt and suspiscion is wasted energy...
or wether it has a valid root in perception! dont you agree!
What is a car? - Wei Shan Yang - 10-27-2010
That's a lot of maybes. I don't see how they would serve the situation well. Because a subjective belief can easily take root in the host who believes (endorses it) then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. See what I mean?
The power of suggestion is perhaps the strongest sorcery. You have suggested some things. If I were susceptible I would take them in, like one takes on a cold or the flu, and then proceed as if that were the base reality. But the base reality is energy, and its neutral in that it will adapt to what intent drives it (remember I mentioned intent earlier). The way to stop its momentum is to have impersonal intent (or universal intent). You recommend making it personal (self-reflected intent). I'm not interested in that route, and I already said before that when I realized I was upset with my husband I saw then and there that anything personal I gave the IB it would use as leverage, so I knew that had to be curtailed or things would get out of hand.
So rosy, you are giving very bad advice here. It's like you are trying to start drama with this energy, the opposite of what one should do.
What is a car? - rosygyro - 11-01-2010
i dunno mate!
really .. its just everyone spends their time protecting themselves..
as if the concept of stalking is to hide behind subdefuge..
I dont hide..
and i SEE mechanisms of the spirit relative to the future of our species..
and a lot of the conversational flow on this site isnt a flow at all..
becasue no-one wants global change..
they just want their own leap to infinity..
although its painstakingly obvious that global change is the most terrifying thing a tonal can face..
no-one recognises the concepts i describe as actually being a FEAR CHALLENGE
and so the whole thing is actually beginning to wear me down and make me bored..
no-one tells a tale or shows themselves with bravery..
just hide and trick question every fucking time..
its BORING!
What is a car? - Turin Otzaki - 11-01-2010
Rosygyro I would love to hear a tale of you showing yourself with bravery -
"be the change you want to see" and all that
What is a car? - rosygyro - 11-02-2010
would you?
Would you like a tale of power that will change your life?
or an impressive story to please your mind!
TURIN OTZAKI-
I have worked with Theun mares books for 12 years...
they are part of a living nagual Tonal connection to our planet..
Only as he is actually a nagual..
they are nagual on one side.. and tonal on your side!
They begin by quite simply..
Taking the reader through a few power stories to get them in the mood for wanting power..
then they get the reader to admit consiously that they would like power..
then the nagual tells stories that describe warriorships rule.. that if you fail in your quest you lose power forever..
then they tell tales of agonising pain and despair the warrior goes through..
as this happens the reader DROP LIKE FLIES off the books..
I didnt drop off!
I dont need to tell you a tale better than this..
If you are qualified to judge me on my power stories..
then you will respect this..
Apprentice to himself
What is a car? - rosygyro - 11-02-2010
would you?
Would you like a tale of power that will change your life?
or an impressive story to please your mind!
TURIN OTZAKI-
I have worked with Theun mares books for 12 years...
they are part of a living nagual Tonal connection to our planet..
Only as he is actually a nagual..
they are nagual on one side.. and tonal on your side!
They begin by quite simply..
Taking the reader through a few power stories to get them in the mood for wanting power..
then they get the reader to admit consiously that they would like power..
then the nagual tells stories that describe warriorships rule.. that if you fail in your quest you lose power forever..
then they tell tales of agonising pain and despair the warrior goes through..
as this happens the readers DROP LIKE FLIES off the books..
I didnt drop off!
I dont need to tell you a tale better than this..
If you are qualified to judge me on my power stories..
then you will respect this..
Apprentice to himself
What is a car? - rosygyro - 11-02-2010
I was actually asking someone else to tell a tale..
Ive stated my intent so many times on this forum.
that there really is no need for me to exhale my last dying breath here..
END!
What is a car? - Lunoor - 11-02-2010
Rosy.
Maybe you haven't noticed my unfolding tales of power, the posts about the power of tears for one. The story of coming from the utmost ignorance to being beginning light and a little beyond the beginning. How can i tell that? How can i open my life so that another can step into it? A novel might give the skeleton. So I wrote a little something about it on the tenant thread, i think it was...
I am for the light and a planetary change for the flourishing of humans, of earth and her children. SOrcerers and elves tce included. I have resistance too, fear is correct rosy. I am willing to keep meeting and letting go of fear, meeting the unknown who is shaping me and who wears some things down and brings others to bare. As I experience, change comes through living awake, that is, open to experience what i am experiencing, noticing the ID and opting out of it's narrative over and over as ably as I can. I am following the guiding signs more willingly. I have realized the folly of "my's" ways. Hehe, the folly hasn't stopped yet but it is more maneagable, cuughcuughcuugh "Approaching Controlled Folly" . Since I am not there yet I imagine it could be a ways away but since I am not there yet, it could be tomorrow
Maybe you didn't see my reply on the thread turin started of DJ quotes, the quotes about the majority of men being black sorcerers. A good answer to the quote. A good practice.
Lately I am meeting my destiny, more to come
I have been to the rock pits of despair and the heights of joy. I have been inbetween. I have done the good suffering, more to come. The good suffering brings joy in it's wake. Joy is at ease with eternity. I am in an out of it at this point...
So notice the tales that do come up and don't expect they will be as large as yours or in the same language but notice the small wonders...
In a world without scale small are large
I noticed you gone for several days and felt you were frustrated and bored with here and us.
Glad you came in tonight.
What is a car? - Lunoor - 11-02-2010
Thanks Rosy.
What is a car? - Wei Shan Yang - 11-03-2010
rosy,
My mom died suddenly 3 days before Christmas. I was 18 months old. My happy stable life came undone. My whole life has been a tale of power since. You don't know my, nor anyone's pain, so do me a favor and not measure what you have no idea about.
But thanks for your post.
What is a car? - Lunoor - 11-04-2010
Honk! Honk!
What is a car? - rosygyro - 11-11-2010
Well BOTH OF YOU!
would you be happy for a "TEMPLE OF WARRIORS" to be recreated ..
THREE STEPS, THREE RIDDLES.. AN UNKNOWN APEX apon which no man can stand..?
Each of us trapped.. three feet bent on different steps..as the riddles continue..
And death the pinnacle ..
we cannot help but tread these stones..
and yet to make haste is to kill ourselves..
only immpeccable understanding of each lesson.. may eventually when we reach the TOP that is the GROUND..
ensure that our death is infinite..
What is a car? - shamanka - 11-12-2010
my car is my vehicle, I am the only driver and sometimes, I carry around other beings in it (my children and sometimes my friends and their children). therefore it is a physical representation of my energy field. when something goes wrong with my car, I look into myself to see what needs to be fixed there too. I never have anyone else on my insurance policy and, no one else ever drives my car.
As cars are commonly associated with the people who drive them.....this makes sense to me. a reflection of the internal in the external world.
Put yourself in the driving seat, of both your car and your energy field.....and you have the means to travel your own path, and you know. you don't need a sat nav......
What is a car? - rosygyro - 11-15-2010
I used to have a 1948 HANOMAG 4x4 mercedes engine ex army truck..
it was rusty as hell and smelt funny..
but still had the original service manuals.. and looked blinking weird..
I was on ebay.. and I saw an old metal plough for sale.. i figured i could hit it with a sledge hammer and bend it into a SPHERE shape and roll it down a hill as an experiment!! so i bought it!
of course i couldnt collect it.. and would certainly look starnge carrying an antique plough on the train accross country..
so I basicly bought the TRUCK so i could carry the plough!
It had no tax, no mot, no numberplate, no battery, no lights, no windscreen wipers..no insurance..
But i amanaged to drive it about 100 miles to the famous english town of GLASTONBURY.. in the vale of avalon.. where king arthur and merlin exist!
wherapon it was stolen from me by gypsies..
eggshell blue it was in colour..
windscreen wipers like icicles..
and caked in a thick grime an inch deep...
i did carry the plough by bus in the end.. back home..
wherapon i set about it.. with an angle grinder and a hammer .. disfiguring it completeley..
toying with the idea of re-welding it into a 70lb iron sword shape and hanging it on my wall!
But i never got the truck back..
It was very weird..
I dreamt about it one night and it was made out of millions and millions of little people.....
yes me and my car are inseperable..
another time i had a 1976 DODGE V8 diesel fireengine.. which i had converted into a motorhome..
it had a massive engine outlet under it.. so when the engine was running it would FLATTEN the grass around it.. as if it was actually a HELICOPTER that looked like an antique fire-engine....
But that was stolen off me by gypsies as well...
I had a postvan ..which was so well aligned that inside it was like sitting in TIPARET.. all gold..
but that was stolen off me by the local town governements highways agency.. along with my favourute speakers, my artsketchbooks.... and some interesting doors i had found in a skip...
I love driving..
I tend laugh a lot while driving,
there was the beat up car i used to pretend to set on fire and climb out of dukes of hazzrd style..
my favourite ever car. was the SPLIT SCREEN morris minor hippy wagon .. I climbed inside of age five and actually set fire to!...If my family hadnt seen the smoke.. I would have burned to death as the child proof locks were on and i hadnt realised!
then of course there is the red double decker bus we had parked in our yard for a while.. it ripped all the telephone lines down it was so tall! There was the tractor that ran over my mothers tortoise!
I used to like getting a ride in the tractor when he was haybaling, or ploughing.. just going up and down the field..
And then there was the 1961 VW campervan .. that a ran toward age three intending to run in through the sliding side door.. only to TRIP over and smash seven of my teeth out!
I couldnt eat aplles again until my second set grew.. which was about FOUR YEARS!
But i dunno..
what is a car..? if not an object of the 2PAST"
OR are you talking about some pathetic sorceric attempt to combine your energy body with a car..or vehicle
and slipstream between people in the dream.. in some misguided attempt to use it to bridge the gap to infinity past your own death?
I would have to point out.. that UNLESS the solutiuons to the riddles of man are within the car you speak about.. IT WILL NOT TRAVEL!
how can you when you havent passed your natural enemies and challenges.
MY car has THREE SPHERES RYTHMICALLY DIVIDING MY MIND..perpetually making fluid my pain..
the spheres will never die.. they ARE the riddles set!
not only that.. they are going backwards.. (reverse gear!)