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MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

I think one of the biggest problems with the modern world is that everything you look up on YouTube looks blindingly stupid when other people do it.  I would feel RIDICULOUS just imitating some random slob in a YouTube video trying to tell me why HE has the authentic secrets of the universe attached to HIS brand identity and this is definitely NOT just your garden variety $15 drop in yoga or tai chi class, and so on.

Seriously though, I'm being cynical, but if you google tensegrity what you actually find is "Magical Passes®".  I cut and pasted that, I could not make this up.  I don't even know how to make the circle R on a regular keyboard.  That is taken directly from the internet, that's the economic reality.  Magical Passes®.

So...  I would appreciate it very much if someone who knows what they're talking about could tell me how this REALLY works and recommend some proven GOOD books or videos, please.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

Check out this fat Russian guy dressed up like a ninja. 



I mean how am I supposed to interpret this?


MAGICAL PASSES - glance left - 12-28-2017

Smile

I do Tensegrity (Magical Passes)....and also some other movements that were shown to me in dreaming.  In a nutshell, its just about redeploying energy for enhancing awareness.  From CC's and DJ's perspective, in terms of "why do Tensegrity", it had to do the fact the seers associated with that lineage saw that daily wear and tear of living life caused one's available energy for perception/intending to be progressively crusted along the periphery of the luminous shell...unusable, essentially, in that state.  The movements were a way to redeploy that energy back "into play"...back to energetic centers....freeing it up in a way that enhances awareness and kindles the connecting link with intent.  Beyond that, there's lots of movements which harbor a kind of code for various specific intentions....again associated with the lineage.  Like sign language, but still with the fundamental intent to redeploy energy for intending.  For instance....some passes are for dreaming....some for inner silence....some for forging the energy body.....some for deepening the recapitulation. 

My feeling is that the proof is in the pudding.  i.e. whatever works.  And that's an individual thing.  I find energetic movements (Tensegrity and the other movements) to be helpful, but don't advocate the movements that I do because I know that what works for me may not work for another....and may even be deleterious, depending on their bent of character.  I just figure that those with sincere intent to align with whatever their trajectory of destiny is will find whatever they need to get to where they are going.  In essence its like finding those "good enough" words you mentioned which represent the finger pointing at the moon in order for anyone to turn their head and become aware of it....and then eventually bridge the gap between themselves and what they are perceiving.


MAGICAL PASSES - glance left - 12-28-2017

Smile  I'm not sure why he's dressed like that.  The fingerless gloves take the cake Big Grin 

I think maybe people like to feel like their a part of some covert operation...a part of something secret and magical.  Sure, why not....again whatever helps focus intention.  Then again, there may be parts of the world where displaying oneself doing things of this nature may get them killed....IDK. 

The foot movements at the beginning I recognize from a set called The Westwood Series...because they were first taught in Westwood outside of LA.  Its one of the first movements for engendering inner silence.  The rest I vaguely remember from other seminars.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

glance left wrote:
Smile  I'm not sure why he's dressed like that.  The fingerless gloves take the cake Big Grin 

I think maybe people like to feel like their a part of some covert operation...a part of something secret and magical.  Sure, why not....again whatever helps focus intention.  Then again, there may be parts of the world where displaying oneself doing things of this nature may get them killed....IDK. 

The foot movements at the beginning I recognize from a set called The Westwood Series...because they were first taught in Westwood outside of LA.  Its one of the first movements for engendering inner silence.  The rest I vaguely remember from other seminars. 

I had the book, back in the day.  I never really got into it.

I've taken several yoga classes and tai chi and qigong classes, and I've been messing around with various "internal arts" over the years, and I think I grasp the basic concepts involved, but... the youtube videos of weirdos doing bad tai chi moves, you know?  I just get get passed the youtube videos of weirdos in costumes doing bad kung fu and telling me it's Mexican shamanism.  Could you be so kind as to point out "the real stuff" please?


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

I mean, I don't know you very well but I actually trust you enough that if you show me some moves and tell me what they're supposed to do, I'll actually try them and tell if what happens.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

I know this must sound like nitpicking, but what is this ENERGY you're redeploying?  I talk like this too.  I'm always talking about energy and feeling the energy and healing with energy and processing energy and so on, but in a specific context like a physical movement based practice, I'm not so sure.  I definitely don't know what a Toltec lineage traditionally says it is and I need Chinese and Sanskrit vocab to kind of fill in the gaps.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

Recently I've been doing this.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhan_zhuang  It's a qigong exercise where you just stand there.  You literally just stand there.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

Is it true that TENSEGRITY is an ARCHITECTURE term?  Like distributed structural force, or like, integrated structure, or something like that?


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

glance left wrote:

My feeling is that the proof is in the pudding.  i.e. whatever works.  And that's an individual thing.  I find energetic movements (Tensegrity and the other movements) to be helpful, but don't advocate the movements that I do because I know that what works for me may not work for another....and may even be deleterious, depending on their bent of character.
I actually completely agree, but also... I'm just not that busy.  LET'S DO SCIENCE TO IT.


MAGICAL PASSES - glance left - 12-28-2017

"Could you be so kind as to point out "the real stuff" please"

I figure the "real stuff" is the stuff that actually works for you, whatever that may be.  I trust that if you/anyone intends to find it with sincerity and open heartedness....it will be found.

But, if you meant in terms of Tensegrity and how it was originally taught by the instructors who were taught by CC....here's a video they put up on YouTube that was put out when they first started teaching these passes.....has a bunch of the single, individual movements.  There's a "volume 2" and "volume 3" available as well.


MAGICAL PASSES - glance left - 12-28-2017

"I know this must sound like nitpicking, but what is this ENERGY you're redeploying"

It's indescribable, of  course.  But, on a personal note, I can feel the effects of its redeployment. Its the internal energy associated with feeling enlivened/aware/inspired vs the lack of it when feeling  dull/heavy/"depressed"/uninspired.  I feel it as a subtle high frequency thrumming/vibration in and around the body which clears the air and allows perception to penetrate more vividly.  The capacity to shift the assemblage point is heightened. 

Again, this is my take on it...personal notes.


MAGICAL PASSES - glance left - 12-28-2017

Yeah, Tensegrity is an architectural terms.....here's the definition: "Tensegrity, tensional integrity or floating compression is a structural principle based on the use of isolated components in compression inside a net of continuous tension, in such a way that the compressed members (usually bars or struts) do not touch each other and the prestressed tensioned members (usually cables or tendons) delineate the system spatially"

From Wikipedia


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

glance left wrote:
"I know this must sound like nitpicking, but what is this ENERGY you're redeploying"

It's indescribable, of  course.  But, on a personal note, I can feel the effects of its redeployment. Its the internal energy associated with feeling enlivened/aware/inspired vs the lack of it when feeling  dull/heavy/"depressed"/uninspired.  I feel it as a subtle high frequency thrumming/vibration in and around the body which clears the air and allows perception to penetrate more vividly.  The capacity to shift the assemblage point is heightened. 

Again, this is my take on it...personal notes.

I think just about every beginner qigong book begins with explaining that everyone feels qi differently.  I'm not entirely sure anymore, but when I first started with this it was very definitely like a fluid that I was moving around my body.  Circulating around in my brain, trying NOT to get it trapped in my head and definitely trying NOT to let it build up and shoot out the end of my penis, you know?  That kind of thing.

I could definitely call it a high frequency buzzing, generalized throughout the body but also focused on wherever I move my attention.  It moves around when I breathe.  It actually never stops moving, but it doesn't always move WELL or quickly, and I think it comes in bright, conscious, and dark, unconscious flavors.  It's not always responsive to suggestions.  It also IS suggestions. You think you're willing it, but it's the energy behind willing.  You think you're conscious of it moving around but also it IS consciousness.  But that's not always very obvious.  When it's sluggish or moving WRONG I very very definitely associate that with depression.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

Also just for clarity, I have NO IDEA WHAT IT WANTS.  I have no idea what THE POINT OF IT IS.  What is it always moving around FOR?  It's always becoming and never BEING anything.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

Also, here's the really big deal.  Taoist philosophy has no ASSEMBLAGE POINT.  There's no ASSEMBLAGE POINT in the taoist alchemy or in the tai chi classics.  How is that even possible?  I don't believe the ancient Chinese sages would have just LEFT THAT DETAIL OUT.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

I'm going to just go ahead and say that the white and black dots are definitely BOTH the assemblage point.  I have zero evidence to support this claim, I just really really want it to be true.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-28-2017

Ok, so I think I'm up to speed now.  Someone should have just told me a long time ago that the meaning and purpose of life is to transform the energy body into a perfect replica of the self and vice-versa.


MAGICAL PASSES - glance left - 12-28-2017

Le_Regard wrote:
Also, here's the really big deal.  Taoist philosophy has no ASSEMBLAGE POINT.  There's no ASSEMBLAGE POINT in the taoist alchemy or in the tai chi classics.  How is that even possible?  I don't believe the ancient Chinese sages would have just LEFT THAT DETAIL OUT.

Ya, go figure.  Maybe the AP is something exclusive to the lineage it was described within.  Who knows?  Who cares?  I've never seen it, but that doesn't mean its not there to be seen.  I like the way this lineage's system of perception is organized, in terms of a description.....have an affinity for it (even though I have no loyalty to it), so am happy to describe things in its terms.  I mean, honestly.....if what's behind the description is indescribable then who cares which system one picks to talk about it?  Just pick one that resonates more or less.  Or make one's own, IDK.

Anyways, yeah...sounds like you're well aware of energy's effects amidst your own field of view.  Like you, I don't know the motive behind the movement so to speak.  But I like the feeling of being motivated by that motivation...i.e. being in alignment with it. Being a simpleton, that's more than enough for me.  And what choice do I have?  All I see are varying degrees of alignment with that force.  Progressive disalignment is progressively dullness and, ultimately, probably terminal boredom.  Not a fan


MAGICAL PASSES - glance left - 12-28-2017

"Ok, so I think I'm up to speed now.  Someone should have just told me a long time ago that the meaning and purpose of life is to transform the energy body into a perfect replica of the self and vice-versa"

Again, that's the purpose of the "new or modern seers" which represents the evolution of whatever lineage of Nagualism CC carried forward.  Impression is that energy redeployed for intending via the Magical Passes can be used for whatever one wants to intend with it. 

Having touched upon the gathering cohesion of the energy body in dreaming, I'm personally definitely game....but that's just me.  I like the focused intensity of it....the wholesale strangeness.  The feeling of being on the frontier of a freedom beyond the known....though I guess there are some dangers out there to contend with.  Although maybe I see a kind of possible trap in forging an "exact replica" of the self/human body via the substance of the energy body.  Seems like it could be imprisoning if taken too far.....but that's just me Smile


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-29-2017

glance left wrote:Le_Regard wrote:
Also, here's the really big deal.  Taoist philosophy has no ASSEMBLAGE POINT.  There's no ASSEMBLAGE POINT in the taoist alchemy or in the tai chi classics.  How is that even possible?  I don't believe the ancient Chinese sages would have just LEFT THAT DETAIL OUT.

Ya, mean, honestly.....if what's behind the description is indescribable then who cares which system one picks to talk about it?  Just pick one that resonates more or less.  Or make one's own, IDK.

It's a great question. I like think of it like... medicine. You prescribe different medicines for different things, to the individual condition. But that's not enough for me. It's not enough for me to find some wise being, ask for my own special perfect medicine, and take it. That's not enough at all. I need to understand how it works. I don't know why, I just do.

Maybe it's enough for most people, but there's at least one type of person who needs to know ALL the medicines, and ALL the conditions, and that's a doctor. Nothing wrong with wanting to be a doctor, right?

Most people wait until their car breaks then deal with getting it fixed. That's normal. Most people do NOT have shamanic initiation ordeals and wake up wanting to be mechanics.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-29-2017

Ok so all of that, and also I LIKE WORDS. I LIKE NAMING THINGS, I JUST DO.

Words have energy and intent too or else communicating would just be impossible. Poetry would definitely just not work at all. At all.

And yeah, I think I'm a POET, lol.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-29-2017

Ugh... ok. Please understand I'm pouring my heart out.

I wanted to teach. I wanted to teach philosophy. I had every intention of going to grad school and trying my best but then the economy blew up and more people just stayed in school instead of finding real jobs, the job market for new professors SUCKS (you're economically better off at a Starbucks) and now colleges are just for profit degree assembly lines anyway. But damnit, I wanted to teach. I like words. I just LIKE words. I like books. I like lectures. I like IDEAS.


MAGICAL PASSES - Le_Regard - 12-29-2017

Anyway I'm being dramatic because that's apparently just literally what happens when you do Magical Passes. Fascinating.

The point I'm trying to make behind it all is that personally, teaching university is out of the question at this phase of my life, but throwing a qigong class together is still super possible if I only I knew what I was talking about and could actually, in fact, teach it.


MAGICAL PASSES - glance left - 12-29-2017

Yeah, being a teacher of energetic systems seems like a much more wide open market....much more of an open frontier to work with.  Qigong....so, you learn the movements and then teach them.  Seems like the words would just naturally spill into the space opened up by the movements themselves. The words, to me, just follow the energy.....if one has a predilection for words.  The energy is the important thing, IMO.  Then, if your wired for words, then words will follow when the wiring is lit up.

I say just go for it Smile