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Conception - Guest - 04-08-2012
This are further notes on the mastery of the alive, things DJ lineage never mentioned. I doubt they even knew based on the replies i got on my other thread.
I will move on to mastery of alive again much of it has a sexual side as well, other then knowing where the center of the human body is. DJ told Carlos that most children are conceived in a marital boredom and because of that most are " cojida aburrida" conceived without their mother's orgasm. He was right some children are conceived in that manner yet there are four categories of human beings that are born.
There is the nagual the Shu/Tefnut, or the one with most energy available because it was conceived in the passion and pleasure of both parents, that means both the mother and father had orgasm when it's body was conceived. One will know the adult nagual being by it's awareness of the moment of it's clinical death, it will never need a consensus from a group regarding that matter, it will ask however questions regarding the event. None of it's parents removed the energy they left when conceiving it.
There is the "cojida aburrida" or the Amon/Hathor a human being conceived without pleasure from it's mother's side, only the father reached an orgasm in the sexual act that produced it's body. It is the kind of human from which a mother will regain it's lost energy like in La Gorda's story. It is the kind of person that will understand it died clinically with complicated convincing methods.
There is the Horus/Hapy also named conceived by a dead father, a human being conceived without it's fathers pleasure but with pleasure from the mother, the father had an orgasm-less ejaculation and the mother had an orgasm during the sexual intercourse that conceived it's body. It is the type of person that will have a clinical death after a serious injury to it's physical body. It's father will be willing or already removed it's energy left within it.
There is the Osiris/Isis also named conceived by two dead parents, a human conceived without any pleasure from it's parent's side. That means that neither it's mother nor it's father experienced orgasm in the sexual act that led to it's body's conception. Upon adulthood it has the ability to experience clinical death without any harm that will come to it's body, yet it will never believe it and will injure it's own body to know it died. Both it's parents can or removed their energy left within it.
That is because when a young couple meets cannot pinpoint the exact sexual intercourse that led to a child's conception many have several in a few days time, or one day or hours leaving this mystery for those that know alive very well and because of their knowledge will not assume that they can control time. The ones with real power know they never do nor will be able to control time yet they will use their power to align within it.
Conception - Littlepaw - 04-09-2012
Dear Persyd,
Hello we have never talked. I must admit I can barely follow what you are saying above. I have read about conception before in Theun Mares books I think but the subject reminded me about something I wanted to know more about which is the edge and I wondered if you would have anything to to say here about it.
All I have read about the edge is what is in CC's books. As far as I understood it after a child is created or during the process, energy is taken from.... Hmmm might need to re-read the book. What I am trying to remember is what sex child gets what edge from what parent. Do you know what I am talking about? You can probably guess why I want to know this. I'm worried I may have lost my edge. I say shaking with laughter.
I suppose that this is really the least of my worries at the moment. Anyways I would really be interested to see what you may have to say on the subject if I even made any sense. : )
Warm regards,
Lea.
Conception - Guest - 04-09-2012
I never read Theun Mares, because i was never interested. CC mentioned that a male child will take energy from it's father's stomach area and a female child from it's mother's gall bladder area however, i am not sure if he wrote it like this or the opposite, i happen to see it in this way. A male child will get it's mother's stomach energy and a female child will get it's father's gall bladder energy upon the creation of it's body.
If one considers the truth of reincarnation will see that the light fibers of that area move into the child's forming body leaving in that place dead fibers from a dead being's double. It has the same size as a living adult double if the baby will be born healthy yet the color differs, would be golden, silver, ivory and transparent - this part belongs to the mastery of the dead and because of the balance required for my post i present it in here as related to all knowledge a human being masters or fails to master.
I never agreed with DJ method of taking back the energy because a living child will be left with no power to choose because of it's parent's desire to regain completeness. I see they might have not known how to form a new completeness with the existence of a child, struggling and trying to regain a completeness that does not reflect their current reality, a completeness that belonged to their past. Other then the huge amount of energy invested is hard to achieve and harmful for the child as well as the parent doing this that can by the force of it's desire break it's own luminosity in the attempt. It uses the mastery of sleep or west it is neither orderly nor healthy.
At birth and the few months after, a baby cannot give much back, it only brings the joy of it's existence to the ones that gave it a new body. Yet as the child grows it is able to create light fibers for it's parents, or find or clean or split the fibers of light, it belongs to the mastery of birth knowing that the new being is created from fibers from living humans willingly given. The child's creativity and care returns new fibers to it's parents in form of tiny gifts, at first insecure and shy but after with more and more power as time passes, accepting them with an open heart will slowly close the holes, as mastery of north a parent will know it is time to accept the new beings creation regardless of the form the gifts take.
May be a child lifting a cloth from the floor or staining it beyond repair while coloring something, because of it's frail connection with the world of the dead may see something an adult misses tiny as they are, children see often what is hidden from grown ups especially if there is something on the ground or put where they can reach.
An adult that will successfully integrate the fibers received from it's child's gift because it knows the mastery of sleep consists of fibers willingly given not forcefully taken, will gain a new completeness that will be much more powerful then the one it had before. I have seen new parents with no holes in a few months time since a baby's birth in couples that balance each other by love, while caring for tiny offspring that are desired and loved as they are the fruit of their parents love for one another. It is rare yet exists.
Conception - Littlepaw - 04-09-2012
Dear Persyd,
Thank you for your time in replying to my crazed question. In the end I think I agree with you in the sense that I should what ever the case except my current reality now. Thanks for the advice as it was kind of what I wanted to think anyway.
with Courtesy
Crazy paw : )
Conception - Guest - 04-09-2012
You're most welcome, if you have other questions i am sure me or someone in this forum will take some time to reply to you.
Conception - Cedar Waxwing - 04-24-2012
Per Syd,
Thank you also for this explanation, CC's never made sense. It seems these holes are repaired and the area gains a renewed strength. One must be an open field for the child so he can find his own path. And be beside them and offer every bit of this renewed strength so they can follow it. Heart comes with love.
Conception - Guest - 08-21-2019