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twin positions - spareenergy - 04-11-2009
I had a dream which started as a non-lucid ordinary dream,where I woke up in a poor town and watched a desperate looking, crying man in ragged clothes with
no underwear, performing some sort or ritual. He threw on the soil a pinch of something which I thought to be salt, he said somethings while stamping the soil
angrily and while crying .Then he got a pinch of the barren soil and put it in his mouth. He repeated the same movements,crying and talking over and
over.Other people in that town were dressed in the similar way, they seemed to belong at the lowest level of some kast system. Later on as I was walking out
the poor part of town, I was on a awesome looking narrow street ,cobblestones on the ground, the two walls on both sides of that street were full of disc
shaped varnished wooden carvings which looked so beautiful that I became aware I was dreaming.I decided to try the twin positions technique right there ,layed
on the cobblestones an closed my eyes.I waited for some time to go to sleep as if I was waiting to go to sleep from an awake state.I managed to sleep in my
dream and dream too , but the dreams were not lucid at all and I woke up in daily real life some time later since it was day time and noisy around. So twin p.
didn't work for me in my first attempt , I guess it is a matter if energy first.
twin positions - rosygyro - 04-11-2009
theres a lot of those weirdos around nowadays, there all the same..... If you ever find a town full, they are always throwing the salt in the same place!..
its a style of assemblage positioning that utilises the matter element.. to ensure that the fluidity of your assemblage point stays within your own
"tonal" boundaries.... thus making sure that when your fluid your not just "wriggling" around in someone elses eye.. thinking its the
unknown.. and wondering what all the screamings about!...
the stabilisation of the tonal falls into two categories...
one way requires an honourable approach to balance between all tonals before a seperate style of fluidity is reached for the self....
the other , a more aggressive style involves putting as many "pointy sticks" through your tonal wall as possible.. so no-one can get near you.. and
then acheiving a style of fluidity,, within your spiky arena!
obviously the first way is a lifes work ...and the second an easy way to hurt all your friends and feel superior at the same time!
What do you mean by twin assemblage position,.. i have not caught that thread in the works yet?
mind you the two paths of the tonal mentioned above are due to split anyway...
only the balanced tonal boundary style can reach the yellow rose of intelligent co-operation amd hence aquiesce to the future!.. because they can be jostled
and augmented by power as a unit! and so move together with shared goals and understanding!
the second style eventually find out that all their pointy sticks were directed at their own reflected lack of understanding.. culminating in said pointy stick
sticking in their own foot!..... followed by the declaration... "my bad"..
What do you mean by twin assemblage position,.. i have not caught that thread in the works yet?
twin positions - rosygyro - 04-11-2009
the true warriors shield however is an interesting thing.. as it does have a SPIKE on it, but only one!.. its basicly the same spike the warrior throws himself
on as an act of death and bravery in the face of power and the unknown...
the fact it seems to stick outwards from his shield is misleading as he has its mirror image sticking in his heart! the trick is obvious!
in theory at least.. any adversary must travel the same fear and immpecability path.. before a communication can be reached....
should the seeker fail to reach the same level but has immpeccability he recieves a similar teaching , (which is hazardous)...
should the seeker be a mindrapist of styles... he will fall apon the spike.. and be turned inwards on himself until he can challenge the warrior again or find
another person to harass in dreams..!
thaTS THE THEORY AT LEAST!... BUT THE TROUBLE WITH WARRIORS IS THEY LIKE CHALLENGE, particularly immpecable ones.. which have the possibility of casually
causing bad peoples death by accident and not on purpose but just because they are so much better but not being more arrogant than the other person who is a
reflection, just in case its not a reflection and they stab themselves in the foot with their dhield and have to start all over again!
twin positions - spareenergy - 04-14-2009
The Tenant tells Castaneda about the twin positions .Here is the part I quoted from the Art of Dreaming:
"She began then to whisper in my left ear. She said that the gifts she had given to the naguals of my line had to do with what the old sorcerers used
to call, the twin positions. That is to say, the initial position in which a dreamer holds his physical body to begin dreaming is mirrored by the position in
which he holds his energy body, in dreams, to fixate his assemblage point on any spot of his choosing. The two positions make a unit, she said, and it took the
old sorcerers thousands of years to find out the perfect relationship between any two positions. She commented, with a giggle, that the sorcerers of today will
never have the time or the disposition to do all that work, and that the men and women of my line were indeed lucky to have her to give them such gifts. Her
laughter had a most remarkable, crystalline sound.
I had not quite understood her explanation of the twin positions. Boldly, I told her that I did not want to practice those things but only know about them
as intellectual possibilities.
"What exactly do you want to know?" she asked softly.
"Explain to me what you mean by the twin positions, or the initial position in which a dreamer holds his body to start dreaming." I
said.
"How do you lie down to start your dreaming?" she asked.
"Any which way. I don't have a pattern. Don Juan never stressed this point."
"Well, I do stress it," she said and stood up. She changed positions. She sat down to my right and whispered in my other ear that, in accordance
with what she knew, the position in which one places the body is of utmost importance. She proposed a way of testing this by performing an extremely delicate
but simple exercise.
"Start your dreaming by lying on your right side, with your knees a bit bent," she said. "The discipline is to maintain that position and
fall asleep in it. In dreaming, then, the exercise is to dream that you lie down in exactly the same position and fall asleep again."
"What does that do?" I asked.
"It makes the assemblage point stay put, and I mean really stay put, in whatever position it is at the instant of that second falling
asleep."
"What are the results of this exercise?"
"Total perception. I am sure your teachers have already told you that my gifts are gifts of total perception."
"Yes. But I think I am not clear about what total perception means," I lied.
She ignored me and went on to tell me that the four variations of the exercise were to fall asleep lying on the right side, the left, the back, and the
stomach. Then in dreaming the exercise was to dream of falling asleep a second time in the same position as the dreaming had been started. She promised me
extraordinary results, which she said were not possible to foretell."
twin positions - heluka - 06-25-2009
Your testicles represent the body which is your female. The fusion between the hearts color and the sexual energy is a whole. the retraction of the sexual
organ is possible to attain the feel and appearance of a youth at sixteen. quite amazing, but very very hard to practice, one must be face to face with death
constantly. Accumulate power . Ever climb a really high tree without gear, that ' l jostle you .
twin positions - heluka - 06-25-2009
wasting energy and the five sense organs is the reason for that dream.
twin positions - Nagual LoneWolf - 06-25-2009
Insightful post Heluka. Your calm in the storm is indeed a welcome addition to the sorcerer's table.
twin positions - heluka - 06-26-2009
thank you.
twin positions - Nagual LoneWolf - 06-26-2009
The dreamer who has the intent of a sorcerer will find that vast worlds await him/her. In dreaming one will find teachers and guides, allies and demons,
inorganics and organics.
twin positions - ARNWAY - 06-28-2009
I personally have been dreaming and wondered what to do and remembered to lay down and fall asleep again while dreaming and woke up in another dream and go
into another dream then another and was able to go from dream to dream and never let go of the dreaming focus but learned that you don't have to do it all
the time because once you foster that awareness by first doing it several times you never loose that perception just like anyother act you do while dreaming,
the important thing that I'm guessing is the mere act of doing anything intentionally cements your perception into a unified whole like any other act in
everyday life that you do it becomes second nature like learning to ride a bike or riding your perception it never goes away and the will to act (intent) is
the key.
twin positions - heluka - 07-01-2009
you wake up in other dreams anyways, the dreamer creates a distraction, and it teleports you.
twin positions - Nagual LoneWolf - 07-03-2009
The dreamer, the self that is free of the body. I have dreams that become more powerful as the new moon comes.
twin positions - Nagual LoneWolf - 07-27-2009
To enter into the fourth gate one must learn the twin positions. This will allow you to meet your double.
twin positions - Guest - 08-21-2019