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Dreamhackers - hdoll - 05-07-2003
Hi.
I am a member of research group that name "dreamhackers". You can read the materials of our group here: in the Russian language (www.dreamhackers.narod.ru) and in the English language - pubyeya.ezboard.chom/fsus...schussions (themes^ "Dreamhachkers" and "Few Extracts").
I do not know English, therefore I use a program for the net translation. I think that this will not hinder our intercourse.
My appearance on the Russian forums is always accompanied by interesting discussions, scandals and, in the past case, by the war of magic clans. There everyone knows that I'm real stalker. Weak men slander, mediocrities steal my ideas, strong warriors give to me flowers. I became the member of this forum in order to describe about the methods of stalking, which were developed by a dreamhachkers. These methods specifically are shown, as stalking derive a man to the new level of existence, similar beings-in-dreaming. Those methods, which I plan to describe, can be named real magic. If I find our intercourse as interesting, then I will describe to you about the magic of network and about its use for the point of assemblage's shifts.
Dreamhackers - explora - 05-08-2003
hiya and nice to meet you!!!
very itnersting story..
you link in with my dream..
i'll post it for you.. and myself
Christ and Peace
I somehow meet up with an old friend from high school, Robin Zhao. I haven't seen him for years. He was a very intelligent person, though our groups of friends were rather different, and we didn't really see each other after school. He seems to be showing me a website, I remember it has something to do with lucid dreaming, and hacking perhaps? There is also a page which talks about Christ. I see a verticle rectangular image of christ, in blue and white colours, containing the word 'Christ'. There is also another image further down the page, which looks much the same but reads 'Peace', in rainbow colours. It describes how when Jesus passed on, he no longer saw things the same way, and I have a feeling of the changes that resulted from this.
After this, I am off to meet Robin at Greensborough, rushing through the aisles of a supermarket, heading for the counter. I seem to be a man on a mission. When I get to the counter, there is some movie star who makes a joke about a 'hacking and the values of some 'Mary?sville? university".
Dreamhackers - hdoll - 05-08-2003
May be, "Masjanya's university"? Actually. One of the active women in our group named Masyanya. She is known to all in Russian, who is absorbed by a nagualism.
Dreamhackers - hdoll - 05-08-2003
I hope, no one of you will deny existence of universal laws. They are abstract and can be treated in different ways. But their main advantage in the fact that they are independent from the human perception. For example, the law of gravity is equivalent to the process of singularity; law of reflection - to law of the sympathy (it was brought out by gnostics in the distant 6 century of our era); the binary code of electronic computers wonderfully is combined with "Book of Changes". And only human perception paints the octave of oecumenical laws into the nuances of various sciences and theories.
Once dreamhackers created the original technique of stalking. They focused attention, that the events of human life are subordinated to two laws (law of valence and the law of sympathy). Certainly, the song of our life is not limited to the combination of two notes. In it there is a remaining part of the octave. But dreamhackers were always characterized by tendency toward the betta-versions. All that in them is reduced to primitive demo. When they created the method of the mapping of dreams, some wit named a dreamhackers as a gamblers. In response to this nickname they personified the new method of stalking in the pack of playing cards. They could make this cartridges, also, with chess, but here similar in them was humor - once gamblers, then let there will be pack of playing cards.
The method consisted of the following: cards contain the embodiment of several oecumenical laws - in particular, the law of sympathy (unity of color) and the law of valence (hierarchical order in each of the colors). It remained to find model for the generation of the chance (personally I consider "chance" one additional universal law, which ancient called "fortune").
This method of stalking was based on the book, which dreamhackers took out of the dreams. Fragments from it you can find on the site of dreamhackers. The assumed author of the manuscript, which proved to be that imprinted in info-levels of planet, had John Di. His magic studies caused lively interest the kingly persons, and Mary Medici was one of the admirers. To the experts of card games is known the patience of Medici - surprising magic patience, whose secret passed to it from the Di. There is nothing surprising in the fact that dreamhackers took as the basis of the new technique of stalking precisely this magic patience of Medici. Story about it are in front, and now, friends my, I enter in the best traditions of Persian fairy tales and fall silent before the following message.
Dreamhackers - hdoll - 05-09-2003
What such is magic, as it I do understand? This is the use of universal laws of the universe. Carlos Castaneda introduced excellent term "intention". Each, who read the books of Castaneda, understands this term on its. For me it indicates magic tuning to the universal laws of the universe and modulation of these laws by its desires. For example, the universal law of the specific chemical reaction was modulated by the inventor of match for the ignition of fire. The variation in the same universal law, modulated by the inventor of of electronic ignition, makes it possible for us to start machine (Wolf's limousin or my aerosleigh). I.e., any invention of practical device is magic in large. But real magic deals not concerning the particular manifestations of one universal law or another, but directly with these abstract laws.
Remember that Castaneda did write about old seers? He wrote that they were the masters of intention. They were the masters of pure magic. Carlos described them in the sufficiently impartial form as egoiticheskikh essences, which did not have as a abstract goal (for example, entry into the third attention). Unfortunately, this moral and ethical estimation caught the leaders of nagualism. Nevertheless, reality speaks about other. Ancient seers made many discoveries, they created the art of consciousness, the art of intention, the art of stalking. They opened a way to other worlds and measurements. By fruits of their works fed all now existing occultic and mystical traditions. But new seers, after catching relay race and after founding their way, satisfactorily disappeared. The present generation of nagualists attempts to create new cycle, but thus far it is the terrible mixture of catholicism and bullshit in the waterway of the Castaneda's books. But!!! The tradition ancient seers continues. Its fraction is possible to find in channeling, fraction - in the occultism, fraction - in the fact that are made dreamhackers and your obedient servant. I will describe to you about the personal experience of contact with the Abstract's magic; about the fact that it actually is located on the tips of our fingers; about the fact that we themselves, in the essence, are magic essences, capable of creating any miracles.
Dreamhackers - Nagual LoneWolf - 05-09-2003
Extraordinary post HDoll.
The germans and russians have created new nagualism lines
that are evolving and that is the reason we must awake that this type of perception is within all and benefical to our race, in fact it is our destiny.
The shaman lines are deep in us all.
Dreamhackers - hdoll - 05-10-2003
What such is patience?
Patience - this is one of the ancient magic technician, developed approximately in the same epoch, as the Tarot. Possibly, more precise it would be say that patience - this is one of the methods of use by a Tarot. Now all card of technology are devaluated and primitivized to the vulgar level, although they preserved their initial potential in the constant form.
There are many patiences and in large they are divided into two forms - linear and compositional. Medici's patience relates to the linear form. It are used at its basis two universal laws - to law of sympathy and valence, i.e., the gathering (bad term, may be assemblage?) of cards occurs according to the principle of the location of the card between two adjacent cards of identical color (law of sympathy) or between the adjacent cards of one rating (law of valence).If patience, interests you, you can find it in the appropriate books. Moreover, a information about it is placed on some sites (including on the site of dreamhackers indicated by me earlier).
To all it is known that the patiences gather so that they "would be gathered". The dreamhackers assume that the "folded" patience of Medici is the "law of Eagle" - the certain symbolic record of the events, which occur precisely so, in this sequence, but not as otherwise. The versions of "gatherings" very much, and each of them reflects its "law of Eagle" - the determined order of the appeared in the reality events.
In the previous times the people composed grimuary with the coded records, which reflected one or another "law of Eagle". In reality "to accumulate" patience is a hard task. And precisely about this tells the legend, by which the patience changed its initial name and it began to be called Medici's patience. Mary realized on the night before the execution, that her last chance to the survival was the method given from John Di. A situation was such hopeless that help could only the magic. Knowing the mystery of patience, Mary attempted to accumulate a patience in ten long hours and to turn the wheel of fate, but this for it did not succeed. When they brought Medici to the execution in the morning , she said only one phrase:"I did not be able! Was not formed patience!"
Fortunately, in our time to not necessarily carry out the hours above a similar task. Dreamhackers developed several programs, which not only allow to obtain the sequence of the prevailing chains for thr users, but also they make it possible to shape their "gatherings" into the rapid, average and slow forms of accumulations. But how dreamhackers did convert the "gathering" of the Medici's patience into the magic? About this I will describe following time.
Dreamhackers - LittleCrow - 05-10-2003
I read all of this, and it was boring.
I grew out of games like these a while ago.
There are only two principles of magic.
1. Contagion (touch)
2. Resonance (sympathy)
Dreamhackers - hdoll - 05-10-2003
Excuse, LittleCrow. I fall silent. I do not want to seem the importunate girl.
Dreamhackers - LittleCrow - 05-10-2003
Patience is a powerful tool. So is pain, which I have a lot of. Waiting through pain is something people generally avoid at any cost, even the resurection.
I visited your web site, and why is it that Russian reminds me of Greek so much? Please tell me if you can. I respect you.
Dreamhackers - explora - 05-10-2003
Heya hdoll..
Interesting stuff. I ended up finding the link to the forum discussion, which proved very helpful in understanding what the group was about.
I suppose I need a little time to understand what you've written a bit better. Sorry, I can be pretty slow at times
Will get back to you soon. Explora
Dreamhackers - hdoll - 05-11-2003
LittleCrow.
Russian letters devised Greek priest - St.Cyril. Russian alphabet is called "cyrilic".
Explora.
Thanks. I did not depart anywhere. I recalled simply that mummy told me: Be modest girl. Silence - gold.
Dreamhackers - LittleCrow - 05-11-2003
Thanks, HDoll! You are a very bright being! I'm sorry I was mean. I have a lot of suffering. Modesty changes to enthusiasm. Beware of the bearers of false gifts, and their broken promises. There is good out there. We oppose deception. Conduit closing. Build loveship.
Dreamhackers - hdoll - 05-12-2003
The principle of the magic (or, more precise, sorcery) was clearly presented by Juan Matus. He said that Eagle's law is indisputable. Eagle's rules are personified in the reality independent of our desire or unwillingness. But magician can use the Eagle's law for his purposes, i.e., make with his his law. It is completely probable that such simple words will remain incomprehensible for some disinsighted types. Therefore I will describe that dreamhackers made recently. Don Juan's words were intelligible by them literally and it is pure as hackerally.
They solved that human life - this, in a sense, the sequence of the events, fixed by the attention of a user. Yes, around us occurs many more events how we insert into the catalogs of life. Many events remain "unfixed", i.e., they pass by you - they are not included in your "vital track", as would say genosse Hubbard.
Thus, there is my specific life. Something in it was "gathered" successfully (IT WAS GATHERED!),that no. And here we begin to examine the moments of successful "gathering". As they are similar to Medici's patience. Castaneda illustrates this position by story about the encounter the Don Juan with certain malicious manager of farm-house. In the description two versions - unsuccessful gathering of the events (DJ obtain bullet into the breast) and the successful gathering of events (where DJ it punishes a manager). A magic is shown based on these two examples. In the first case the patience of situation "was not formed", the secondly - "was formed" and reproduced the law of Eagle (but any gathering patience, any "gathering" situation - this is a Eagle's law). How the Don Juan did make Eagle's rule his? He introduced his desire into the context of the patience's situation.
Dreamhackers do it very simply. They created a program-situational language on the basis of cards. For example, a Ace are the action of the uncontrollable force. A King is law (social standards, the rules of trade, of decency, of street traffic). A colors are four spheres of the human activity (traditionally - amorous, commercial and so forth.) Let us assume that I decided to obtain the desired event. I knows that in this program language the event is presented by 7+. Further, I shapes background for the event - Dc-8p-7+- and so forth. I wants that it would occur precisely so, precisely under such conditions. Further, I uses special programm and puts its fragment of rule in the rule of Eagle - into the gathering patience. It can do so that the "gathering" will occur gradually - during the month or the week. In this case the formula of the patience's gathering will be long. But it can "accumulate" a events almost instantly - in the day, hour, minute. And when the chain of actions is painted, I begin to carry out it - from the first card to the latter.
And real magic begins here. As soon as I approaches the realization of the calculated chain (are carried out one-two actions), chain begins "to be gathering" itself, without my participation - events simply proceed on the described chain and from me more than anything it depends. Somewhere in the middle or at the end the "fixed rule of Eagle" realizes my purpose and motion is continued. But this also yet not all. After introducing into my life the harmony of the "fixed rule of Eagle", I standed in the sphere of influence by this force a while - the force of intention. Any desire is fulfilled. It seemingly finds status of sisadmin and, in contrast to usual user, it has enormous advantages in the realization of vital installations.
If to whom that it is not understandable, can pose questions.
Dreamhackers - LittleCrow - 05-16-2003
Please keep in mind folks, the eagle is a metaphor.
Let me explain.
- - - - HOW THE EAGLE SEES YOU - - - -
The real eagle (with feathers) sees you (pitiful human) as food that's just too large to catch.
- - - - HOW YOU SEE THE EAGLE - - - -
Well, that's closer to what HDo11 just talked about.
*You* see the eagle as a metaphor for a model that *you* have invented to explain an experience that has happened to *you* in such a way that *you* retained memories of it.
Thus it can be talked about. If there is no memory of your experience, then you can't talk about it after it has happened. Right? So memory is critical in the process of growth into a mature human being. Any damages to memory result in damages to maturity. Let the reader see.
Don Juan was not a mature human being, I'm afraid. He was powerful over bimbo californians, no doubt, but what good has he actually done for our dying planet? A whole lot less than Jesus Christ who was killed by his own family for revealing truth about his vision of the future "kingdom" of God, which in modern language has been identified as the "Gift Economy". Check it out. It's what bees and plants do, and what Sidhartha found while sitting for hours and hours with a tree.
Dreamhackers - jacka1z - 05-16-2003
Well, I cant speak for what the real eagle, Don Juan, Jesus or Sidhartha sees, says or has done. But the metaphor eagle, that part of time/space that exists in this moving moment of now, I can tell my experience. Its the only part of what anyone says that I listen to. When someone speaks for others and others works, I only listen as they are speaking their personal experience of the phenomena of others, not necessarily what the others have actually done.
In my personal experience, It all comes to say the same thing. Loving with all the power the body/mind can muster brings the reality of heaven into the current moment for the being that has that intent. And that moment of love, for me, has been the only reason that I have found that gives a reason to living.
Dreamhackers - LittleCrow - 05-16-2003
If experiencing love in the moment could have saved us, it would have done so in the 1960s when it was at it's peak. Love is a driving force, but you know, love is blind.
Dreamhackers - jacka1z - 05-17-2003
Saved us? lol What is "saved"?
Love peaked in the sixties? ROTFLMAO
Love is blind? Open your eyes.
Dreamhackers - hdoll - 05-21-2003
One of the basic dreamer's tasks is the fixation of the Assemblage Point in the new position. In the dream this is manifested as the stabilization of environment (picture or the scene of sleep). In order to leave the flow of events, which is assumed by scene of sleep, it is possible to use several methods. Don Juan proposed to look at the hands. Dreamhackers have another, very effective technology. Once SI (Sergey Izrigi) it proposed to us to learned to revolve metallic balls in the palms. We began from two and one hand, then sufficiently rapidly we learned to revolve on three balls in each hand. The special feature of this rotation is the fact that the balls revolve in one side more easily than into another. SI it proposed to us to be focused on the difficult method. He asked us to memorize sensation on the large mound of big finger (section on the palm). I.e. we had to memorize the sensation, when turned a balls to the "difficult side". This sensation is fine, pleasant and more similar to the fatigue of muscles. Once in the sleep I recalled about this exercise. To me it was difficult to reproduce a necessarysensationin in the sleep. Therefore I took two small stones in the hand. As soon as I started up them in the hand, the scene of sleep became the stoping three-dimensional picture. In other sleep I again used a method and preserved awareness unexpectedly for long. I recommend to you this technology for the practical use. All who used this method found by its very useful.
Dreamhackers - explora - 05-25-2003
Nice trick! I'll have a shot with it. I'm sure you won't mind if i share it with others too
Dreamhackers - hdoll - 05-26-2003
All tricks of dreamhackers are the gift of the Abstract for those, who search for knowledge. But you do know, what examination arranged by a dreamhackers in order to take new a members into the their group? They proposed to build a pyramid from the stones in the controlled dreams. The following property was the special feature of this trick: when someone constructs a pyramid from the stones in lucid or controlled dream, then occurs one constant event - phenomenon, which occurs each time, when you construct this pyramid.
Result must be held in the secret. When dreamer wrote report and indicated correct result, dreamhackers get with him to the contact. If someone was described incorrect result, they softly advised to make one additional attempt.
Pyramid must be gathered on the elevation. It is desirable, on the slope hill or mountain. It must be into the height higher then the solar interlacement of man.
When I constructed its pyramid, stones always disappeared from their places. Then I began "to lure" them to itself, to pull by its will. You point by finger to the stone, pull a little stomach inside, and stone crawls to you. If you make this with the large stones and the cliffs, then you "crawl" or fly to them. Therefore select stones on the your forces.
Dreamhackers - LittleCrow - 05-26-2003
You get to play a fun video game every night?
Seriously, I would like to know what is the range of your dream-communications? A few miles or do you have to be in the same room or bed? Can dreamers interact across the great oceans? When I sleep, you are awake, since you are in Asia, and I on the other side of the ball. Maybe you take a nap to find me.
Dreamhackers - explora - 05-26-2003
Yup. i believe we sure can communicate over oceans.. no probs there! here's one example between me and a friend.. beware that while i live in australia.. she is 12 hours or so behind..
Dali 22, Spectral Moon (Fri 23 May 2003)
Galactic Tone: 12. Crystal: Dedicate, Universalise, Cooperation
Solar Seal: 10. White Dog: Loves Heart
Dog Telepathy
I sit up in bed for a bit, as I usually do in the middle of the night, to ease my transition into lucidity. I'm just laying there concentrating on the energy around me, trying to call on the spirit of Anubis, the watcher of the dog star. Somehow, I end up in a dream. I'm in a building, and there's this dog sitting in front of me. I like talking to dogs, as I genuinely do believe they can hear me, so I say 'Hello, Dog' in a kinda cute fashion. I don't actually expect him to respond to me! I'm shocked, when the words 'Hello Nick' pass directly into my mind, without it's moving it's mouth. I'm just so surprised, I am woken into lucidity. I spend the small amount of time, while lucid, just giving it a big hug. I don't actually get a chance to communicate mind-to-mind again though. I wake, thinking about how strange it was that I just drifted off into a dream.
Comments: What a cool dream. I'm a bit confused as to why the dog called me by my name though. I actually thought of DM7's telepathy article in relation to this dream. Since it has a sizeable portion about telepathic communication with a dog, in a hospital. Who knows? Maybe it was DM7 in my dream? It could also be to do with the dog spirit Anubis, watcher of the dog star, but I can't work out why he would know my name
AND THEN DM7'S DREAM:
Telepathy Experience
-It might be related to Exploras Dog Telepathy dream, I didnt want to say anything about it until he posted his thats why its kind of late.
I look up and all of a sudden I become lucid after thinking about Explora. Immediately, I automatically thought about linking up with him, but then I slow myself down, reminding myself that my intention only is to PREPARE myself for the big night. There is a dream character in front of me that says, Hello. I sense that he/she is curious about my telepathic ability and I didnt see why I shouldnt do it so I proceed. I reply, ~Hello .~ I seem to know his/her name, but I dont remember. My recall is very vague. He/she doesnt responds anything. I immediately know that he/she isnt comfortable because there is a block. I feel a bit disappointed, but I cant just step in and break the block otherwise that person will feel further uncomfortable. At least this person now knows what its like to receive my thoughts, I thought and continue, What if I have that block with Explora? I cant just break it thatll be like invading his privacy. I look up feeling confused and a bit frustrated. This same dream character keeps assuring that its ok [Im sure that more has happened, but thats where I cannot remember anymore ]
Dreamhackers - hdoll - 05-27-2003
Dreamhackers dedicated much time to the study of Dreaming Together. For the beginning this form of dreams are necessary the specified conditions - coordination on the place and the time. For those, who dealt with the mapping of dreams, this was not by large problem. Close acquaintance is necessary for others. Even on the photograph it is very difficult to arrive in the sleep at the man. Although among dreamhackers there are masters, which can arrive at you into the sleep even on the basis of net communications. Another problem is penetration into the sleep of co-dreamer...
If you want, I can describe about a technics of penetration. But I warn, I will leave the large part of the information beyond the scene. Dreaming Together and the "crack" of the other people's dreams are the secret of dreamhackers. This is the internal knowledge of our group.
Dreamhackers - LittleCrow - 05-27-2003
I suppose the radio waves from your brain could bounce off the ionosphere, but I doubt the brain is that powerful without an antenna, like insects. We are very limited in our range of communication. You can see this clearly by looking at what humans have done here. (In other words, there should be physical evidence of higher communication than speech if it exists among humans.) The dreams hdoll and explora have explained, could easily have been predetermined by the unconsious during waking interactions, and then played out for them in their dreaming. What do you say to that?