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Russian Dreamhackers on dream mapping - Eilias123 - 09-14-2010
Here's some of the translated text (There's something lost in the translation, but generally gets the point across):
"1) The Dreamworld (or rather the model which described it) appeared
to be a rather small area. For instance, there was only one city
there. I have lived in many countries. In Russia, I haven't only
been in the far north and in the far east. Nevertheless, there is only one
city on the map: the embodiment of all the cities I have ever seen,
with elements of St.Petersburg, Minsk, of Kasbah [Where is Kasbah?]
and Tashkent. Transitions and interflows of these places in-Dreaming
are amazingly harmonic and natural. Furthermore there are a lot
of "cul-de-sac bubbles" (dreams) round the City-summer camps,
friends' houses, directions in the area to places of which I had
heard, but hadn't visited yet.
2) The centre of the Dreamworld is the house of the Dreamer. The
edges of the map are called "border ranges" (usually mountain
chains, seas, rivers, dunes, and deserts). There is nowhere farther than
these "border ranges". In this very moment "Hackers"
know only that northern and southern "border ranges" are immutable. With the
practice the northern "border range" moves slightly further
afield.
There are some "blind spots" on the eastern "border range" (a highly- restricted area!).
3) There are dozen of places on the Dream map which don't exist
in the "real" world. For instance, the zone of cataclysms, labyrinths
etc. [Caves?] which I have already mentioned.
4) And last but not least: we nearly went crazy when we found out
that our maps had common basic details. Some special places are
present on nearly every map. For example, K. writes about a huge
building, which has a link with a stadium. And I have this formation
too. And, as I know where this place is situated, I can give K. some
useful advice and in this way I can help her create a map. And, in
the case of telling K. about the nearest landmarks, she may have had
a very interesting insight-she came to know that she had already
visited those landmarks thousands of times, and consequently she was
caught up by a wonderful and inexpressible feeling of dream
recollection. Another "invention" is connected to two buildings-a
sanctuary and a jail (the sanctuary could be in the form of
"police"
or a "computer"; the "jail" could be smart, evil, and
destructive: a
concentration camp with a bigot-executioner; an army college etc.).
You will find a lot in the first place. As for the second place, you
will have already visited it many times, and loosen up a lot.[What
does this mean?] Then "hackers" found out that if they got
their
practice right (by searching for necessary places and avoiding
unnecessary places) a Dreamer becomes involved in a shocking process.
Each new recollection and description of a dream will rope you into a
chain of very old recollections (ten or twenty years old)! Hundreds
of places, where you have been hundreds of times will be revealed in
a bright flash! In such moments a man lives through a very powerful
state. ["It is like a 'weekly Satori' "] You will not feel euphoria,
but rather a strange thirst-faster! More! The everyday "reality"
of
your family, friends, your job, the "real" world will leave you. You
are neither here nor there-on a strange borderline. Dreams become
very transparent. You remember yourself in a Dream every night.
Achievements turn out to be heady. The words of Castaneda and don
Juan gain a new meaning. You see something in them that you
didn't
manage to catch before. BAH! Subsequent collapse into an insufferable
depression-you want to commit suicide. And yet again you have to gather up your strength bit-by-
bit and continue your practice until new ups-and-downs come, breaking
certain membranes in yourself. And later you take your map, knead it
like a piece of dough, and use it purposefully. Then you don't
need
it any more. By this time, as a rule, there is no "fog of
war" on it.
Some time later you turn your attention to those strange "blind
spots" on the "border range" of the Tonal. But, as the
saying goes,
that's another story."
Russian Dreamhackers on dream mapping - Guest - 09-14-2010
thanks for posting this elias!
Russian Dreamhackers on dream mapping - SelfHealedMadman - 09-14-2010
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Interesting you post this, Elias. I just ran across a link to their site the other day.
I worked and Dreamed with these folks many years ago and learned a great deal.
SHM
Russian Dreamhackers on dream mapping - Eilias123 - 09-14-2010
well SHM i hope you share some of what you learned. don't be a knowledge hog buddy!
Russian Dreamhackers on dream mapping - Ligth - 09-15-2010
hi!
Kasbah is Kuznetsk Coalfield. It is in Kemerovo in Russia.
labyrinths are of two types - archetypal (common to all mankind) and personal. There is a special article here about labyrinth.
And there is a article about lost(took away) radiance(don't know how to translate it more precisely) here. These two articles are in Russian.
Here link to some English translation about dream mapping.
And here is English board of current Russian Dreamhackers forum created by Ravenna.
Russian Dreamhackers on dream mapping - Eilias123 - 09-15-2010
Interesting, He mentions having the deam map come flooding to you as you write. This is often how i channel some of my dreams, the dream telepathy thread is a good tutorial on how to do this.
Another thing i noticed about your house in the dream. sometimes the houses re arrange with people you are trying to share dreams with. on a particular time I noticed a user from here mothsdream had her house next to mine, and One Time singer's house was just up the hill.
Russian Dreamhackers on dream mapping - SelfHealedMadman - 09-15-2010
Eilias123 wrote:
well SHM i hope you share some of what you learned. don't be a knowledge hog buddy! Chuckles....
I'll share when I can.
Russian Dreamhackers on dream mapping - Guest - 08-21-2019