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Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 01-29-2004
The FI enjoys commotion because it creates energy to feed off.
If something is ocurring there is a specific action that can be undertaken to discover why the FI is acting. By stalking the FI one is silently aware of its every movement while, at the same time, being completely obvious. Thus the FI is exposed to be the core of the action, so easily uprooted by a passiong motion of the nagual in a noment of silence.
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 01-30-2004
This passing motion is sorcery or wizardry.
Wizards are more apt to dismiss their identities in order to perceive truths and sorcerors are more apt to dream their way to truth; but because the finality is equality there is no fundamental difference between the two classes.
Stalking FI - Coyote Cuervo - 01-30-2004
That really is quite interesting.
I was never really aware of any fundamental difference between the two. The words have always seemed interchangeable to me. It would seem fitting that a warrior could learn well from both archetypes, and apply both to active perception.
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 01-31-2004
Amen to Active PerceptION.
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 01-31-2004
Dreaming and dismissal are like polarities.
Dreaming is like adding something.
Losing your identitying is like death.
At this point I am willing to say that losing your identity in your dreams is a way of dying but still being alive, and is the same path if disected, and I see your equality as a brilliant stroke against the confusing mechanisms of the FI.
Stalking FI - Nagual LoneWolf - 01-31-2004
To my mind Herba is stalking the fi with his motion.
Sorcery is sorcery. This act would be sorcery.
Don Juan said that these words whether wizardry or sorcery actually do not describe very well the nagual and its use but they'll have to do.
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 02-01-2004
I am definitely never content with my description.
No one is.
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 02-01-2004
Describing the nazgual is intensely humorous.
And yet even in that humor there could be an undertone of terror more humorous then the rest.
This is one of the tricky things I have noticed in dealing with the nazgual with my tonal.
LoL
Stalking FI - Nagual LoneWolf - 02-01-2004
Terror and fascination also.
Intent for all you silent readers out there
does not follow its own path. Lone Wolf
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 02-01-2004
I, for one, am unwilling to stay silent.
In fact last night I was walking around talking to myself.
At one point someone in the bushs started saying "jehovah God", then "respect", then, clearly aiming his intent at me, "respect jehovah god".
I thought it was a rediculous suggestion.
One of the tools of my tonal is the "I AM" clause, and it simply means that I am.
"I AM GOD" I had shouted back and he went silent.
I figured telling him that I was god was better than saying jo mamas god or something, because he was serious.
My conclusion was that if I had bent knee to respect this jehovah god I would have given the FI an oppurtunity.
This is true for any God or idea.
Simply by saying, "I AM", I have discovered that it is possible to completely nullify the FI, as each time one says "I AM" they are being abstract.
Stalking FI - mamalama - 02-02-2004
so would meditation be an effective way to subdue the FI? is watching movies, provided the we observe and don't involve ourselves in them?
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 02-04-2004
I feel that in this case it may become necessarry to do more than observe.
The truth is the FI will reach out for you, but if you don't involve yourself, it might not be able to.
Find a box. Label it "paradox". Go in it, well, your stuck there, and the FI can't reach you; and so long as you continue wielding your stone the FI will actually do as you command.
It is possible to partition off a segment of the mind and fortify it against things like "fear" and "anger".
The parasite can never use that. But it is not the "whole mind".
Stalking FI - Nagual LoneWolf - 02-04-2004
How true HM! The fi is evil according to Don Juan.
If it is evil then is it responsible for evil acts committed by its host?
An age old question actually....
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 02-04-2004
I think so.
Hmm, but that is definitely a paradox.
Stalking FI - Coyote Cuervo - 02-05-2004
How can good and evil possibly exist.
Everything is a part of infinity.
Such black and white determinations are illusion which lead us further and further from the truth.
If the FI's temptations (towards evil? or rather to submit energetic fodder?) did not exist then what would the warrior have to challenge himself to grow efficient and poweful?
Perhaps if the FI did not exist we would all be lazing about in our EZboys gulfing down Doritos clicking the channels.
We each have times like this I am sure.
To deny it would be another submission to the illusions of the FI.
The truth is inedible to these things.
Stalking FI - jacka1z - 02-05-2004
I feel that losing the human form is part of losing the polarity of good and evil. Two sides to the same coin, but not really, as when losing the human form we forget that something is happening to the human race, like fi parasites. Going cosmic we become one with the universe and then it doesn't really matter what form of god is eating what other form of god.
Stalking FI - Coyote Cuervo - 02-13-2004
I have noticed that the Ego (I AM) or FI can be actively feeding vacillating between loud and silent.
For instance, when I decided to talk about how frustrated I am with a professor because he did not rehire me for a job, I referred to his dishonesty for not looking me in the eyes telling me that he felt me to be unreliable, when he deferred to telling me by email. I thought that I was stalking his FI and mine by doing so. In fact I was fortifying my own FI in the act. Who am I to judge, I am?
Today I went to the museum with a girl, and she was speaking constantly talking about likes and dislikes. I bantered but a lot of the time I was silent. I didn't tell her what I like: that I am attracted to herin an undescribable way. Her barage of neuroticism scared me from expressing myself about the only real thing I had to say to her. I ultimately felt drained from our interaction. Was it because she was talking me ear off?
No, it was because I didn't express what my heart was trying to say.
I don't know if the FI works the same way for everyone, but for me it has a vacillating mode of attack.
Stalking FI - Nagual LoneWolf - 02-13-2004
Nice bit of stalking CC. Its complex but very simple once the division starts to from. Most people and their fi's are a seamless team. They have no idea there are two halves of the thinking human brain since we first were opened to the parasites. Lone Wolf
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 02-14-2004
I think you should watch out for this bantering, and if you get closer to the cause of the bantering, your stalking skills will be more useful.
Not to mention your bantering might have been the act which originally opened' you to her FI.
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 02-14-2004
I have also noticed that sometimes grils speak too much, or that even a male friend may begin to act feminine. I have notied, though, that there is always a cause rooted in excessive speach- The FI, and yet, it might be that the best way to stalk this prey is with your own excessive speach patterns. Become your prey, so to speak.
Stalking FI - Coyote Cuervo - 02-15-2004
I was not opened to her FI.
Prior to spending time with her, I approached the professor, and attempted to apologize, at least I admitted that I felt us to both be dihonest towards each other, but that I was much more dishonest than he had been. I did not live up to my promise to arrive at work on time every day. He did not want to feel the slightest in the wrong, so he agreed to disagree about this issue. I do know that he still takes my words personally, and he has always been very protective of himself. The energy had been released.
I guess I cannot feel him accountable for looking me in the eyes and not being straightforward with his feelings. Eye contact has always been a very important thing for me, but I also know that I have often not been able to live up to all of the promises I have made when giving eye contact.
There is a lesson here.
With the girl, rather I feel that our FI's conspired with one other. She cannot imagine any other way then to relinquish her energy to the flyer. Maybe I can at least help her as a friend.
Peace
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 02-15-2004
I think it sounds to me like you can.
Stalking FI - Coyote Cuervo - 02-17-2004
We shall see.
Stalking FI - HerbaMatey - 02-18-2004
Does that mean you can?
Stalking FI - Guest - 02-18-2004
weather he belives it or not he can, belife and disbelife is all thats standing in anyones way.