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The highest courage is to dare... - Turin Otzaki - 02-15-2011

"The highest courage is to dare to be yourself in the face of adversity.
Choosing right over wrong, ethics over convenience, and truth over
popularity…these are the choices that measure your life. Travel the path
of integrity without looking back, for there is never a wrong time to
do the right thing." - unknown


The highest courage is to dare... - sear - 02-15-2011

Temptation resisted is the true measure of character. attributed to Louis Dega


The highest courage is to dare... - Nu Lang - 02-16-2011

Courage...one of my favorite words. As long as its in you, you will always choose right. If its not in you, you can wait (knowing what you are waiting for).


The highest courage is to dare... - sear - 02-16-2011

"As long as its in you, you will always choose right." NL
Piffle.

I've been shopping for a refrigerator for days. I've also spent hours on the Internet looking for a 2 stage (not a 3 stage) battery charger in the 20 - 24 Amp range.
I've got more than enough courage for that.
But it's information I lack.

- What is the yearly estimated draw of the fridge, in kW hrs.? It's often around 330, but the model I'm looking at doesn't list that.
- What is the cut-off voltage of the charger? what, and how is it calibrated (if at all) at the factory?

Courage doesn't even necessarily guarantee a morally or factually correct decision. Remember the OJ Simpson murder trial jury? Or how about the Rodney King beaters jury?

And why was Sp4 Tillman shot in the forehead by his own teammate?


The highest courage is to dare... - LeeKuanMajor - 02-16-2011

Well, I'm impressed. To see Sear disagree openly with a moderator leads me to believe I just may have been wrong about him. Hey, if I am proven incorrect about ANYTHING I'll be the first to openly admit it. I am detached from my CURRENT beliefs and I have just openly proven that regarding the UFO models used to create the faked UFO footage and photos in an attempt to prove all Billy Meier evidence is fake.
I had assumed that Sear was deliberately kissing up to the moderators. Now, I'm not so certain. Such is life!
UPDATE: But you see, this is the difference between myself and Sear. When I am proven wrong I openly admit it. When Sear is proven wrong he just refuses to respond. So, when you talk about true courage who is more courageous myself or Sear? A valid question when considering the "highest courage", don't you agree?


The highest courage is to dare... - Nu Lang - 02-17-2011

sear wrote: "As long as its in you, you will always choose right." NL
Piffle.



I've been shopping for a refrigerator for days. I've also spent hours on the Internet looking for a 2 stage (not a 3 stage) battery charger in the 20 - 24 Amp range.

I've got more than enough courage for that.

But it's information I lack.



- What is the yearly estimated draw of the fridge, in kW hrs.? It's often around 330, but the model I'm looking at doesn't list that.

- What is the cut-off voltage of the charger? what, and how is it calibrated (if at all) at the factory?



Courage doesn't even necessarily guarantee a morally or factually correct decision. Remember the OJ Simpson murder trial jury? Or how about the Rodney King beaters jury?



And why was Sp4 Tillman shot in the forehead by his own teammate?Yes, I know sear. I meant warrior courage. Against the FI. If we have no courage, it will influence us, we can still hold our intent and wait.
Lee, I am a person before being a moderator, lol. In fact, being a moderator is the least of my duties in my life. Not saying its not imporant, but rather there is really not that much to do as LW is admin and Turin does a great job, so between the 3 of us its no big deal.


The highest courage is to dare... - sear - 02-17-2011

"Against the FI." NL
What's that?
"I meant warrior courage." NL
I've never been in a U.S. military combat zone. But I've had guns aimed at me. I've had knives pulled on me. I've been fired at. From a hundred yards away the symmetry of the muzzle flash is near perfect.
I know what it's like to stare death in the face.
I don't disparage those brave men and women that have vanquished in War. But I don't take much pride in the own courage I've shown. It strikes me as a rather low bar.

For me, "courage" as a policeman was simply the acceptance of my own mortality. I didn't take needless mortal risks. I simply did my duty, mentally concentrating on my duty, and not on the personal consequences.
For me that may have been more stupid than brave.

If I had it to do over again, I would hope that I would not.


The highest courage is to dare... - Nu Lang - 02-17-2011

warrior courage, not combat courage. You've read CC right? THAT warrior.


The highest courage is to dare... - LeeKuanMajor - 02-17-2011

Um, if you think don Juan was not always prepared to fight to death at the drop of Genaro's hat you are sadly mistaken. He was a warrior through and through. Not just on a computer screen and paper. You paper computer screen warriors really need to balance out your tonal and nagual. You tend to be too much nagual and tonal wimps. You seem to think that talking Castaneda warrior talk is all that is required to be a true warrior. Don Juan and I have one major thing in common: We both have death as an actual ally, not just figuratively, and we are both ready to fight to the death at the drop of a hat.
Well, I could be more ready and I believe he's dead so...
One of the main reasons I joined in the Army was I considered it to be the best place I could go in order to develop my warrior nature through the use of petty tyrants. Drill sergeants do indeed make great petty tyrants and there are lots more in the Army. Indeed there are!
I strongly doubt Sear has a clue what I am talking about here. Rather than admit that fact he'll probably just ignore me again. This is his idea of courage. Rather than ask me what I mean by a "petty tyrant" he'll just act as though I didn't post anything. That's his nature underneath his high and mighty talk. He's stared death in the face and is too afraid to answer any question I may present that would prove my point. Some "warrior". He may have been a brave police officer warrior way back when but now he is proving to be a real 'can't get it up' kind of "warrior".


The highest courage is to dare... - LeeKuanMajor - 02-17-2011

"The highest courage comes from the source of all courage. When the entire Universe is backing you up and you KNOW this empirically, you can face any challenge. Your personal fear doesn't stand a chance"
~ LeeKuanMajor ~


The highest courage is to dare... - Nu Lang - 02-17-2011

LeeKuanMajor wrote:"The highest courage comes from the source of all courage. When the entire Universe is backing you up and you KNOW this empirically, you can face any challenge. Your personal fear doesn't stand a chance"
~ LeeKuanMajor ~
Yes, thats the courage I was talking about. I called it in another thread,... being the center of the Sun. It was a feeling I awoke with one morning...not a new feeling, but I was given on that morning the theme of it being like the center of a powerful sun that expands out into the universe in all directions. I saw how this would prevent any fear (warrior challenge, FI) from entering into my being. So all my choices would be 'right' meaning they would not be fear-based. When we choose based on fear as a motivating factor, thats automatically the 'wrong' choice. So to me, courage is absence of fear. and right is acting with power, and wrong is acting from weakness, so hope this clarfies everything. Its my perspective only, if your all definitions of courage are differnt, thats fine.


The highest courage is to dare... - LeeKuanMajor - 02-17-2011

You problem, as I see it, is similar to the problem of the supposed "warriors" who post here. They are like Castaneda in that they are all words. It took the practicality of Howard Lee, who instructed Castaneda in martial arts for about 10 years after don Juan left, to make Castaneda into a much more balanced warrior. Unfortunately, the temptations were too great and Carlos' tendency to dangerously indulge eventually got the better of him. As don Juan could easily have predicted, Castaneda lost himself in his extremely dangerous indulgences. He cared more about having a harem of women than he did about being a true 'man of knowledge'. Then the bloody hypocrite had the nerve to preach celibacy to his followers. Man, that takes hypocrisy to a whole new level!
The highest courage is something that police officers live with every day. Unless they can put it into practice on a daily basis they cannot be successful police officers. It seems to me that Sear is long gone as a police officer. Now he hides from whatever truth he doesn't want to face and calls that 'courage'. Was it surrendering to your cowardice that caused you to stop being a police officer, Sear? If it was you will most certainly not openly admit it. Personally, I would not blame you. I could not handle the job...without killing some ****! I'd lose as a police officer because I would probably kill one a-hole per week MINIMUM! My problem wouldn't be that I don't have enough courage. It would be that I don't have enough...bullets!
Thanks to people like you I now have the lowest opinion of the human race than ever before in my life, and that's a fact!


The highest courage is to dare... - Nu Lang - 02-17-2011

Interesting...I was surfing the web and came across this:



"The word courage in French means being 'at heart.' "


The highest courage is to dare... - Nu Lang - 02-17-2011

Lee, its all good, join in and participate I'm a friend not a foe or any other anything. We are both warriors on the path.



-nu lang over and out


The highest courage is to dare... - sear - 02-17-2011

"You've read CC right?" NL
The Connecticut Courier?

I read it religiously! Where do you think I get all my coupons from?!


The highest courage is to dare... - Nu Lang - 02-18-2011

sear wrote: "You've read CC right?" NL
The Connecticut Courier?



I read it religiously! Where do you think I get all my coupons from?!coupons huh.


The highest courage is to dare... - shamanka - 02-20-2011

maybe turn 'courage' into 'inner authority of the spirit'



which i may add, does not assume the worst in people, is compassionate to the struggles that other people face, and doesn't use its 'power' to tell other people they haven't got any.



any other type of 'authority' is a personality construct (external to the spirit) and therefore, shows absolutely nothing 'pleasant' about the speaker, as it does not come from the space of 'highest good of all'


The highest courage is to dare... - Guest - 02-20-2011

shamanka wrote:maybe turn 'courage' into 'inner authority of the spirit'



which i may add, does not assume the worst in people, is compassionate to the struggles that other people face, and doesn't use its 'power' to tell other people they haven't got any.


LOL love that you put power in quotes!   Power begets power.


The highest courage is to dare... - Nu Lang - 02-21-2011

'courage' works for me


The highest courage is to dare... - Nu Lang - 02-21-2011

shamanka wrote:which i may add, does not assume the worst in people, is compassionate to the struggles that other people face, and doesn't use its 'power' to tell other people they haven't got any.


I have witnessed the worst in people and myself...my conclusion is the FI has done much damage to the human race, tis sad to see. What we have believed are human failings are in fact, in my opinion, not human in origin at all.


The highest courage is to dare... - sear - 02-21-2011

"...my conclusion is the FI has done much damage to the human race, tis sad to see. What we have believed are human failings are in fact, in my opinion, not human in origin at all." NL
If not human; what?


The highest courage is to dare... - Nu Lang - 02-22-2011

If not human; what?who knows? I just know OUR potential is pure positivity. I drempt with an old nagual once and he showed me what that feels like...awesome. Granted it was my experience and you don't have to believe it. But I say that is what is all of us humans, that feeling of only positive energy flow so so so intense. Makes sense that we would get a 'predator' to challenge us and thus we have to strive to reach our potential.


The highest courage is to dare... - sear - 02-22-2011

"who knows?" NL
It's not clear to me by what logic you exclude what you believe (apparently without logical grounds) is NOT the cause, without any apparent idea what is.
"I just know OUR potential is pure positivity." NL
Humans are omnivores.
That means we both hunt, and fish.

Your opinion expressed here is doubly humanocentric.
First, in the self-aggrandizing view that we are positive, while presumably some others are not; otherwise your statement would not have been "OUR potential is pure positivity", but that -ALL potential is pure positivity.-

Second, I'm not sure if you've ever gone fishing or hunting, or toured an abattoir. But it's a ghastly business.
If you were the fish that's decapitated or bludgeoned to death, or the fur bearer that's shot and left to bleed to death, and then gutted and skinned; I'm not sure how enthusiastic you'd be about the assertion that:
"I just know OUR potential is pure positivity." NL
In addition, your assertion contradicts millennia of human pre-history and history.
It doesn't explain crucifixion, or totalitarian nightmares of Stalin's USSR, or the equally horrific degradations of Hitler's Germany, or Kim Jong Il's North Korea.
"I just know OUR potential is pure positivity." NL
It's a nice thought. But such reality obfuscation is best left for children. Adults should know better.


The highest courage is to dare... - shamanka - 02-22-2011

i feel the difference in perspectives here is that you sear assume, Nu Lang is talking about humans and the potential of humanness.



where as imo she is talking of the whole being hue-man, knowing of all its interconnections and creative abilities.



a lot of us here experience energy as a vital force that flows through us, even directs us, to some it is tangible and entirely logical



in its own right, without the brain interfering.



so the potential of that flow is unlimited..as it turns to kinetic energy..usable down here, it can get turned to any thought, word, deed or action.



translating into logic in your human terms..mashes it, disects it and twists it and destroys its potency....



to some of us even translating spirit/abstract into words can be painful in the extreme...



cramming it into tiny brains (in comparison) in order to attempt to 'define the experience' of it can cause



big time stress on the 'physical' level of the body



the energy or spirit or whatever you wish to call it..is clear and strong and purely abstract.....





i appreciate that those who believe themselves to be purely human..cannot experience this, as their capacity to receive anything but logic,



does not make them open to anything else.







humans dont learn from their history because of their logic



the abstract lets us be free in choosing for ourselves the possibility and even reality, of dancing in harmony with everything else....



that's the 'magic' the awe and wonder of being part of it



you can keep your logic and your humanness....





You like to 'trash' because you are blinkered and harnessed to the constructs of millennia of humans.



You think that science and your brain is superior



to anything else..cos thats what human brains like to think...it helps you feel safe and in control....



funny that i would say that throughout history humans are the least in control of themselves as a race.



quite frankly, most other races are wholly bored, of having to come down here and dig you out of your created messes





Saying that, your time will come...as evolution comes to all individuals and species



i send you much love, to that part of your journey....


The highest courage is to dare... - sear - 02-22-2011

"a lot of us here experience energy as a vital force that flows through us, even directs us, to some it is tangible and entirely logical ...
your time will come...as evolution comes to all individuals and species

i send you much love, to that part of your journey.... " sn
You presume it hasn't happened yet.

Been there. Done that.

Subjective "reality" is a ruse.
I've run the gambit. But objective reality is the currency I trade in. I don't deny the other. But I don't genuflect to it as an entity of unfathomable mysticism.
It's simply a perspective; one I have had, but do not now share.