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A movie for warriors - White Knight - 02-27-2011
any other recommendations on movies are welcome...
A movie for warriors - sear - 02-28-2011
I'm on dial-up, so I can't see the video.
"any other recommendations on movies are welcome..." WK
I think First Blood, the original Rambo movie is an under-appreciated movie.
I thought the sequels were quite horrible.
But the original Rambo movie has nicely presented subtleties, raising questions of jurisdiction, personal rights, police authority, and broader social comment.
The first scene drags a bit, but sets the stage for the rest of the movie; establishing Rambo as the last of his kind. [Ishi: Last of his tribe]
For any that haven't seen it, I recommend it.
And while it's a rather obvious pick for Stallone fans, Brian Dennehy does a very nice job. Anyone that's seen Cocoon knows Brian Dennehy can play a jovial, benevolent, non-combatant.
But Dennehy plays a heavy in this movie, and he does a very nice job with it; possibly out-shining Stallone in one of Stallone's better performances.
NOTE:
I've got the "Ultimate Edition" (their term, not mine) in DVD. The movie can be seen as is; or with Stallone doing a running commentary of the movie from start to finish, substituted for the sound track.
Stallone fans may enjoy that.
A movie for warriors - White Knight - 02-28-2011
sear wrote:I think First Blood, the original Rambo movie is an under-appreciated movie.
Anyone that's seen Cocoon knows Brian Dennehy can play a jovial, benevolent, non-combatant.
The movie title, you can't see, is 'The limits of control' by Jim Jarmusch. Not everyone understands it, so there are many controversial reviews.
What an old ones you had picked, i will try to find them, probably with Rambo won't be any problems and i will watch it.
A movie for warriors - sear - 02-28-2011
"What an old ones you had picked" WK
I considered leading with The Last Samurai, but frankly I didn't see it; and suspect I wouldn't care much for movies like that, or 300, or even Braveheart, which I did see.
I don't understand why Braveheart did so well at the box office. It was released at about the same time Liam Neeson's Rob Roy was released.
The former was more commercially successful. I think the latter was substantially the better movie (albeit not much of a war movie, still, with conflict, desperate human drama, etc.).
"i will try to find them, probably with Rambo won't be any problems and i will watch it." WK
If you expect a bloodbath extravaganza, you'll be disappointed.
First Blood isn't as much about war as it is about society, and how we treat our heroes.
WWII was kind of black & white. Not just the newsreels of the era, but the white hat / black hat aspects of it as well.
First Blood is the opposite. It's about subtleties. It's about force multiplication. It's about intention vs result.
It's about police authority vs police power, and more.
And there's some very nice though brief helicopter flying in it.
Trivia:
Early in the movie a car leaps a railroad grade and gets airborne.
During the shooting of that scene, the stunt driver's back was broken. But reportedly they kept that scene in.
One other note, for now.
Stallone claims to be afraid of heights.
It's an interesting piece of trivia that may come into play as you watch the movie.
A movie for warriors - sear - 03-01-2011
Other war movies perhaps worth seeing:
- Saving Private Ryan (realistic battle scenes)
- Schindler's List (good movie)
- Battle of the Bulge (I saw it decades ago, but remember it as worth seeing)
- Patton (popular; George C. Scott, another excellent performance)
- Von Ryan's Express (a likable movie, well paced. A must see for Sinatra fans)
- The Bridge On The River Kwai (I saw it decades ago, on the big screen, but remember it as entertaining)
- The Guns Of Navarone (I saw it decades ago, on the big screen, but remember it as entertaining)
- Stalag 17 (is this the one where Steve MacQueen does some motorcycle stunts?)
I'm not sure if it qualifies as a "war movie". But Daniel Day Lewis' Last Of The Mohicans involved pre-Revolutionay war in America (not yet "The United States").
I regard that as a superior movie. But be sure to get / see an unedited edition. The DVD I bought had some scenes removed.
I only have 3 movies on DVD. That's one of them.
The other two are: First Blood, and Paul Scofield's A Man For All Seasons, which isn't a war movie; but won 6 Academy Awards in 1966, including best picture.
For any that are interested in insight into character, personal integrity, and honor, I strongly recommend this movie.
No car-chase scenes. It's a loose recounting of history during the reign of Henry 8.
The main character (the "man for all seasons") played by Scofield was Sir Thomas More, author of Utopia.
A movie for warriors - Nu Lang - 03-01-2011
I saw this foreign movie in 2003, its an interesting concept...have not encountered a movie like it.
Open Your Eyes 1997 http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/op ... -eyes.html
A movie for warriors - White Knight - 03-01-2011
I don't understand why Braveheart did so well at the box office.There is really some spirit in it. I like very much the scene at the end when main personage is lynched and he is forced to betray his alliance, but he refuses, just screams FREEEEEDOOOMM.
A movie for warriors - sear - 03-01-2011
"he is forced to betray his alliance, but he refuses, just screams FREEEEEDOOOMM." WK
An obvious climax, box office pablum.
You're right. The masses ate it up.
I think Rob Roy was substantially the better movie; even if the ending wasn't spelled out in dayglo on a billboard.
A movie for warriors - White Knight - 03-01-2011
sear wrote:I think Rob Roy was substantially the better movie;I hadn't seen it, so can't comment on.
I had thought about the movies lately. 'The life is beautiful' by Roberto Benigni has some stalking behaviour, there are some drama but humour also, so worth to watch.
A movie for warriors - sear - 03-01-2011
sear previously posted:
"- Stalag 17 (is this the one where Steve MacQueen does some motorcycle
stunts?)" sear
It's been decades since I've seen these movies.
But I suspect the motorcycle scene/s may have been The Great Escape & not the other.
A movie for warriors - White Knight - 03-01-2011
One of a best movie i saw about war is 'Das Boot' by Wolfgang Petersen. There are very less self-importance.
Here are two, very interesting, mindfuck category movies. 'Dark city' by Alex Proyas about how memories built behaviour patterns. 'Cypher' by Vincenzo Natali about human identities. Both have some attributes of warriors way.
I already got 'First blood' Rembo movie and 'Open your eyes' which is original version of U.S. made 'Vanilla sky' movie. i've seen some years ago and have povitive memories about it, so decided to watch the original one.
A movie for warriors - sear - 03-02-2011
"One of a best movie i saw about war is 'Das Boot' by Wolfgang Petersen." WK
Yes.
I've seen it.
It has a loyal following.
It may not have been as popular in the U.S., due to subtitles. But not a bad movie.
Another military submarine movie (not necessarily a "war movie") is The Hunt For Red October. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099810/
But the submarine movie I liked more was Denzel Washington's Crimson Tide. He works well (on a movie making level, though not on a plot level) with Gene Hackman
to create a taught military drama about: where do you draw the line ... when does obligation to humanity trump military orders, etc.
One last for now:
Alfred Hitchcock directed the making of John Steinbeck's Lifeboat.
IIRC it's somewhat quirky in that, the entire movie (or nearly all, I forget) takes place onboard a lifeboat.
It takes place during War. And part of the intrigue is, who on board can be trusted, and who not.
I saw it a long time ago, and don't remember. But I think the reason they're in the boat is because the ship they were on was sunk by a U-boat.
A movie for warriors - Docta Lee.sorcery - 03-05-2011
Great film... I have seen it.
A movie for warriors - Nu Lang - 03-11-2011
Last night I saw Beowulf. I liked it It has Ray Winstone as Beowulf (though its one of those computer animated things) and John Malkovich whom I love, Anthony Hopkins...love him too, Robin Wright Penn and Angelina Jolie (gorgeous).
The movie is about a warrior, and very good one, but he has an issue of integrity that he must face at the end of his life, one which torments him...but will not give anymore of the plot away. Action is good, dragons and monsters are creepy.
A movie for warriors - sear - 03-11-2011
Thanks NL.
I'd like to see it.
I've not read the book, but it's a classic.
A movie for warriors - serendipity - 03-11-2011
Hi sear,
you are correct in what you say, re; Rob Roy versus Braveheart. Rob Roy is a fine film, and quite accurate, historically speaking. ( amusingly, I was offered work as a stunt-man, standing in for Tim Roth, but declined the offer,).
Braveheart, is the biggest load of drivel ever to hit the screen. It has no relevance to historical events in Scotland, whatsoever, and it's box office success, quite frankly, is enough to make me despair of my fellow countrymen.
The film, 300, is merely a piece of homo-erotic fantasy. A comic book, brought to life.
Another such comic, is "Sin City", but the difference is, it's quite entertaining and funny,(and nuts!).
"The Last Samurai", is a very good film, that I would recommend to anyone of any age. Its so good, that it can be forgiven for it's slight Hollywood cheesiness. Visually, superb, and very much in the mood of a "warrior".
Here,s a few films folks here might enjoy,............"Delicatessen" by Marc Caro and Jean-Pierre Jeunet. "Jeremiah Johnson" by Sidney Pollack. "Santa Sangre" by Alejandro Jodorowsky. "A Zed and Two Noughts" by Peter Greenaway. None of these is about war.
War films,(other than, the ones previously mentioned,),............"Apocolypse Now", of course! "Zulu dawn" by Douglas Hickox,....very accurate, historically speaking. All Quiet on The Western Front" by Lewis Milestone.
I could name many more, but, thats enough for now.
A movie for warriors - sear - 03-11-2011
"stunt-man" s.n
Yikes!
Those guys (you guys) astound me. I can't believe human beings can survive some of the things they do.
I didn't see 300, but got the impression you posted about it, from the promo clips I've seen of it.
Jeremiah Johnson
Interesting movie.
In high school, I told my girlfriend it was a "western", thinking the low expectation would have her enjoying it more (than she might have, had I talked the movie up, raising expectations).
Pollack did a nice job on that one.
I liked the scene where Johnson (Redford) lay on the ground, and watched the advancing attacking Indian coming toward him from behind, in the mirrored surface of his horse's eye.
That's cinematography!
"I could name many more, but, thats enough for now." s.n
I've never done it.
But here's a nice resource, for info. on movies; the Internet movie database: http://www.imdb.com/
It has a site search engine. I suppose a person could just type in "war" and see what pops up.
s.n,
I'd like to introduce you to my vehicle.
Its name is Robert.
Robert red Ford (get it?).
Whoowheee! I'm a genuis.
(& yes, I did see Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid, and liked it. I hadn't graduated high school at that time.)
A movie for warriors - Turin Otzaki - 03-12-2011
a ford ranger?!!!
A movie for warriors - sear - 03-12-2011
Yup.
It's a 1999.
I got it a few summers ago.
It's my first vehicle with an air bag.
I really get nervous with that gun pointed at my head.
It's got a 4 cyl. engine. It won't go much more than 70 MPH.
But I think I've gotten 24 MPG on the highway with it.
A movie for warriors - White Knight - 03-12-2011
Recently i watched an inspiring, involving comedy\drama movie. 'Stranger than Fiction' (2006). The moral of it was: Hurry up, Death is always waiting, death is always near, so destroy the patterns and start acting at will.
A movie for warriors - sear - 03-12-2011
'Stranger than Fiction' (2006) WK
"There are good books, there are superior books, and there are great books.
- Good books inform you.
- Superior books in addition to informing you, entertain you.
- ... A great book is a book that changes you." Oprah
And so it is with movies WK.
Of all the arts, the cinema is the most important. Vladimir Ilich "Nikolai" Lenin 1870-1924
A movie for warriors - Nu Lang - 03-13-2011
White Knight wrote:Recently i watched an inspiring, involving comedy\drama movie. 'Stranger than Fiction' (2006). The moral of it was: Hurry up, Death is always waiting, death is always near, so destroy the patterns and start acting at will.Great timing. I watched a movie last night, and I knew near the end I was going to ask here to see if others have seen it. Its a movie (relating it to this thread) about death as an adviser. Its called Harsh Times, directed by David Ayer. He's this California dude who makes realistic movies...two I know of are about the LA scene. Ayer looks pretty much like a thug himself, lol. He does good work, its very gritty and feels true so you get pulled in. The main actor is Christian Bale, who I think is a great actor, plays a good warrior-type. In this movie he is a warrior for sure, but a very troubled one. Death is what is stalking him.
A movie for warriors - rasselon - 03-13-2011
The Butcher Boy
Donnie Darko
Orlando
A movie for warriors - White Knight - 03-13-2011
Nu Lang wrote:Great timing. I watched a movie last night, and I knew near the end I was going to ask here to see if others have seen it. Its a movie (relating it to this thread) about death as an adviser. Its called Harsh Times, directed by David Ayer. He's this California dude who makes realistic movies...two I know of are about the LA scene. Ayer looks pretty much like a thug himself, lol. He does good work, its very gritty and feels true so you get pulled in. The main actor is Christian Bale, who I think is a great actor, plays a good warrior-type. In this movie he is a warrior for sure, but a very troubled one. Death is what is stalking him.
Seems Christians Bales personage passes into the hands of death by him self, sometimes looks that he does not expect to survive. But still implicate action movie as 'Training day' is.
A movie for warriors - Nu Lang - 03-14-2011
Oh, so you saw the movie...great. Yes that's a good observation...he feels death approaching but how he handles it is to try and lose himself in his surroundings. I would not say he's in denial about it like other people would be, rather its written all over his face and you see he's very aware of it. Interesting.