11-05-2010, 12:00 AM
Nagual LoneWolf wrote:
Lea....I thank you so much for offering and I will gladly accept your help but there is one problem. I do have a rule here that no members with the extension .parallelperception to their name can be a moderator or have admission into the private forums that exist here. If you change your name we can totally accept your help as I feel you mean no harm and are sincere in your offer. Again please no not take this personal but it is based on the experiences we had had here with members from the PP forum.NLW, can you help me out here?
How can you ask Lea to not take this personally when it seems you are?
Isn't this also personal history on your part, since it's your discussion board, and yet you still have 'rules' against those with a mere suffix on their username? Personal history of a competitive nature not only against Lujan but an entire subscriber database? Please keep in mind that I'm not a Lujan groupie nor know much about him.
Wouldn't this be a great stalking maneuver in self importance to offer an olive branch to those on difference forums? What could have possibly been said here that is so bad as to create such rules? As well as, if something IS said that's unaccepable, doesn't that depend on the independent person, not an entire group of people? I mean, you just said it yourself, that Lea seems to be a fine person.
Am I out of line for asking these questions??
Why is there so much fear in regards to the PP group or the members? I mean, if it's not fear, why the rules?
What's a rule, anyway? A form of consensus? To keep the crazies in line? Keep in mind that 'crazy' is a numbers game. Enough people behave in a 'crazy' manner and it's now the norm. I was under the impression that rules and structure were items to be examined, such as personal history, self importance and such? Sure, have a rule in regards to no personal attacks. Ok. What else?
Sorry, but I guess I'm missing the 'detached and at ease' part when there's fear being shown to another discussion board.
Let me re-quote Curtis Sensei again:
"The point of our training here, what I'm getting to, is to get real, to stop faking it."
"Because in a life and death situation, you don't have any time for fakery. You don't have any time for an illusion about who you are, or what's happening, or who they are, or what's happening with them."
"There's no amount of self-mastery, no amount of technical perfection will get you by, and save your life, or save the life of a loved one."
"I don't care if you spend your whole lifetime learning how to do different martial arts [or Nagualism or what have you], and how to become adept in every one of them, it won't be worth squat, if, in the moment of life and death, you're confused about who you are."
"Your reaction, or your actions in all situations, are exactly as limited as your conception of who you are. Because you act from who you are, not who you imagine yourself to be."
"To be authentic, to be real, you must be free flowing, like water."
"If you want to have a mind that flows like water it can't very well be fixed in some place. It can't be definable."
What is our conception of who we are as a group here on the Shamanic Warrior? We, who reside in fear of another group posting something we can't accept? Personal history of past experiences? I've found that those who make my blood boil also have something to teach. What personal history in me reacted? Why? How to solve this? You get the picture.
If I'm banned for these comments, so be it. I'm grateful to you for the opportunity to allow me to share my thoughts; the good, bad and perhaps ugly.
Thank you for your time and let me be quiet now.
Kris
Lea....I thank you so much for offering and I will gladly accept your help but there is one problem. I do have a rule here that no members with the extension .parallelperception to their name can be a moderator or have admission into the private forums that exist here. If you change your name we can totally accept your help as I feel you mean no harm and are sincere in your offer. Again please no not take this personal but it is based on the experiences we had had here with members from the PP forum.NLW, can you help me out here?
How can you ask Lea to not take this personally when it seems you are?
Isn't this also personal history on your part, since it's your discussion board, and yet you still have 'rules' against those with a mere suffix on their username? Personal history of a competitive nature not only against Lujan but an entire subscriber database? Please keep in mind that I'm not a Lujan groupie nor know much about him.
Wouldn't this be a great stalking maneuver in self importance to offer an olive branch to those on difference forums? What could have possibly been said here that is so bad as to create such rules? As well as, if something IS said that's unaccepable, doesn't that depend on the independent person, not an entire group of people? I mean, you just said it yourself, that Lea seems to be a fine person.
Am I out of line for asking these questions??
Why is there so much fear in regards to the PP group or the members? I mean, if it's not fear, why the rules?
What's a rule, anyway? A form of consensus? To keep the crazies in line? Keep in mind that 'crazy' is a numbers game. Enough people behave in a 'crazy' manner and it's now the norm. I was under the impression that rules and structure were items to be examined, such as personal history, self importance and such? Sure, have a rule in regards to no personal attacks. Ok. What else?
Sorry, but I guess I'm missing the 'detached and at ease' part when there's fear being shown to another discussion board.
Let me re-quote Curtis Sensei again:
"The point of our training here, what I'm getting to, is to get real, to stop faking it."
"Because in a life and death situation, you don't have any time for fakery. You don't have any time for an illusion about who you are, or what's happening, or who they are, or what's happening with them."
"There's no amount of self-mastery, no amount of technical perfection will get you by, and save your life, or save the life of a loved one."
"I don't care if you spend your whole lifetime learning how to do different martial arts [or Nagualism or what have you], and how to become adept in every one of them, it won't be worth squat, if, in the moment of life and death, you're confused about who you are."
"Your reaction, or your actions in all situations, are exactly as limited as your conception of who you are. Because you act from who you are, not who you imagine yourself to be."
"To be authentic, to be real, you must be free flowing, like water."
"If you want to have a mind that flows like water it can't very well be fixed in some place. It can't be definable."
What is our conception of who we are as a group here on the Shamanic Warrior? We, who reside in fear of another group posting something we can't accept? Personal history of past experiences? I've found that those who make my blood boil also have something to teach. What personal history in me reacted? Why? How to solve this? You get the picture.
If I'm banned for these comments, so be it. I'm grateful to you for the opportunity to allow me to share my thoughts; the good, bad and perhaps ugly.
Thank you for your time and let me be quiet now.
Kris