06-11-2017, 12:00 AM
Julio Juliopolis wrote:
5 - You're asking about the implications of moving into a society in which what you grew up with as "normal" is considered abominable. Specifically, you're asking how it affects recapitulation, (unless I've misunderstood you). During recap, you should not be judging what you see but an impassive observer. You want to see how the events shaped you at the time, the emotions, the decisions you made because of them, etc. You want to undo all of that. Judging events again, this time from a view of a member of a society that considers what you once thought normal abominable is sort of the opposite of recap.
I think it may even be a case of "implications of moving into a society in which what you grew up with as "known" is considered "unknown".
We believe that the known is an individuals enemy of being able to percieve the unknown.. (in greater degrees we call this sobriety)
In our own lives our accumulated expectation and conditioning (known) is a blunt club that flattens anything subtle and new.
even if our known be the tricks of fluidity, we will use it to inhabit a system that is inviolate and as such blinded.
My worry in the case of refugees from attrocity and war is that it is their known social conditioning and experience.
yet when the comparitve internal and external environment is aligned it does not match their surroundings.
For the average rat race european human the refugees of war are arriving on the crest of experience they themselves cannot hope to percieve
in terms of own known accord.
The way i see it this creates a pressure, where the average "civilised" european has vast areas of unclaimed power in the fringe expereinces of war, attrocity and death.
whilst the new arrivals have an unforeborne "known" of war attrocity and death.
neither human needs further war, attrocity and death
but the pressure trend keeps it into manifestation.
In terms of the manifestation of personal challenge
i see that the refugees have a clear route to inspiring events to deeper deconstruct their known social conditioning
but that those inexpereinced in attrocity have a dangerous gap in their inexpereince
thus allowing the manifestation of further war
more readily than initiating self subjective psychotherapy for the war damaged.
If there is indeed an internalisation of recapitulation
and indeed if there are sticky patches.
then i wish to know wether there are generic traits of recapitulation
that can be engineered to serve both parties.
ultimatley serving all parties.
.......
5 - You're asking about the implications of moving into a society in which what you grew up with as "normal" is considered abominable. Specifically, you're asking how it affects recapitulation, (unless I've misunderstood you). During recap, you should not be judging what you see but an impassive observer. You want to see how the events shaped you at the time, the emotions, the decisions you made because of them, etc. You want to undo all of that. Judging events again, this time from a view of a member of a society that considers what you once thought normal abominable is sort of the opposite of recap.
I think it may even be a case of "implications of moving into a society in which what you grew up with as "known" is considered "unknown".
We believe that the known is an individuals enemy of being able to percieve the unknown.. (in greater degrees we call this sobriety)
In our own lives our accumulated expectation and conditioning (known) is a blunt club that flattens anything subtle and new.
even if our known be the tricks of fluidity, we will use it to inhabit a system that is inviolate and as such blinded.
My worry in the case of refugees from attrocity and war is that it is their known social conditioning and experience.
yet when the comparitve internal and external environment is aligned it does not match their surroundings.
For the average rat race european human the refugees of war are arriving on the crest of experience they themselves cannot hope to percieve
in terms of own known accord.
The way i see it this creates a pressure, where the average "civilised" european has vast areas of unclaimed power in the fringe expereinces of war, attrocity and death.
whilst the new arrivals have an unforeborne "known" of war attrocity and death.
neither human needs further war, attrocity and death
but the pressure trend keeps it into manifestation.
In terms of the manifestation of personal challenge
i see that the refugees have a clear route to inspiring events to deeper deconstruct their known social conditioning
but that those inexpereinced in attrocity have a dangerous gap in their inexpereince
thus allowing the manifestation of further war
more readily than initiating self subjective psychotherapy for the war damaged.
If there is indeed an internalisation of recapitulation
and indeed if there are sticky patches.
then i wish to know wether there are generic traits of recapitulation
that can be engineered to serve both parties.
ultimatley serving all parties.
.......