12-17-2018, 12:00 AM
That's amazing Jos3ph! I'm getting happy that you're having such great experiences and insights. Keep it coming 
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Jos3ph wrote: I can start by saying that I am seeing how intricately linked judgement and self-image are. No. Self-image requires judgment. Ok. I think there's only one way...
I became aware of how the majority of my time is spent thinking about what other people are doing wrong. I honestly never called doing that "judging." I believed that I was simply viewing reality.
But what I'm really trying to say is that when I was in that, I WAS THE JUDGING.
It is basically impossible to get people to see this just by telling them that their 'viewing of reality' (when they talk about how person XYZ is - and usually it is something considered negative by the speaker - for example based on the way the person dresses) is a judgment.
(Ofc sometimes we practice seeing but that is a different matter altogether and I have noticed also that many who stop by the www just use that word for veiled judgments. Just cause we see something doesn't mean it's free of judgment. So, ideally, one works on the judgment layer (for sure if it's the unaware kind, but also if the person cannot suspend judgment even if they are aware of it) before they start mixing it with seeing cause the two are a terrible mix imo.
P.S. I talked to funnyguy in private so I guess he won't be responding to my posts here. We figured out some vocabulary stuff and other things. It was a fun talk. Maybe he'll pitch in anyway... we'll see .
.Jos3ph wrote: I can start by saying that I am seeing how intricately linked judgement and self-image are. No. Self-image requires judgment. Ok. I think there's only one way...
I became aware of how the majority of my time is spent thinking about what other people are doing wrong. I honestly never called doing that "judging." I believed that I was simply viewing reality.
But what I'm really trying to say is that when I was in that, I WAS THE JUDGING.
It is basically impossible to get people to see this just by telling them that their 'viewing of reality' (when they talk about how person XYZ is - and usually it is something considered negative by the speaker - for example based on the way the person dresses) is a judgment.
(Ofc sometimes we practice seeing but that is a different matter altogether and I have noticed also that many who stop by the www just use that word for veiled judgments. Just cause we see something doesn't mean it's free of judgment. So, ideally, one works on the judgment layer (for sure if it's the unaware kind, but also if the person cannot suspend judgment even if they are aware of it) before they start mixing it with seeing cause the two are a terrible mix imo.
P.S. I talked to funnyguy in private so I guess he won't be responding to my posts here. We figured out some vocabulary stuff and other things. It was a fun talk
. Maybe he'll pitch in anyway... we'll see .