12-25-2014, 12:00 AM
Gugeyewalker wrote:I've heard of this lujan character.
Absyllyon, mind telling me quite literally what your interaction with him was? And was there some specific thing that caused this ripping of your energy field etc, or is it just something you would rather not share here?
It sounds to me that he quite expertly convinced some people to sort of follow him as a nagual. Quite interesting, at least from a stalking point of view, even if his intentions were not to get rid of self-importance (you could call this dark stalking yes...)
I'm just curious what all this chap did to cause such a stir lol. Appealed to the gullible I guess.Well I have met him in person a number of times. He is friendly and all that.
I have lost my way and need to be reminded of a few things, such a been grateful for the lessons. Too own up to my own power and stop giving it away. As noble as he can come across as, he makes mistakes that have severe consequences. The mistakes with me cause me to think that he can't see me. An example of this kind of mistake is of him laying a spell in stating ; "You never feel anything." As I write this I can feel the drag of the intent of those words. We were doing some movements that increase the flow of chi at the time. I was the only one who didn't feel or see anything. Well the comment just served to show me how even he can discard someone who doesn't respond to his energy and power, and to reinforce the social training I grew up with, especially at the hands of my dad. The difference with Lujan is that he claims to be a Nagual and a man of knowledge; not only that, but a sage and holding knowledge no one else has. I believed him and expected to be guided, so those words had a bigger impact than if someone else had said it, I mean I would of laughed it off. The truth is that I see and feel many things, just not so much with him is all. I felt those words and saw his weakness in them.
I moved on to other teachings that had more information and gave me more understanding over the next year and my energy started growing apace. At one point I saw that he was withdrawing from everyone and made mention of it. He told me not to write such things. Some how this innocuous comment caused an impacting ripping sensation in my solar plexus and chest as mentioned in my introduction -On the hunt. It was immediate and I had no time to maneuver myself to off set or moderate the intensity of the emotional charge. Obviously it my own emotional charge that did the damage, yet I blame him for been the catalyst. This energy field was very 'young' and delicate. I felt that as a seer he should know better, that as a man of knowledge he should intuit the impact of his statements. And as such would see the ongoing repercussions of the huge loss of energy I experienced. Either he intended such a result, did not see or he too big a Man to offer me some sort of understanding of what transpired. The energy is like a sapling that needs to be protected and nurtured and one day it will become a huge tree.
I feel betrayed by him for the paltry concern of what others will think. He was in fact withdrawing. I had thought twice about mentioning it but felt impelled to do so to help another person I did not know, who was in much emotional pain. How I knew this I am not really sure, but I did and it turned out to be so. Not only did i see him as too concerned with his image, but also as hard hearted.
He makes big claims yet in my case they have not stacked up. Actually I feel that he corrals and stagnates awareness, and suppress, or waylays burgeoning power in another - that is my experience. To understand things is very important to me and makes a huge difference to what I may be capable of. I experience suppression of understanding from him.
I have waited these few years to speak publicly because the venom and violence I felt towards him for what I thought of at the time, for pillaging my energy would have caused me to slander him in every way I could in an attempt to seek justice for his 'crime', and in no way see that it is I who needs to make my stand.
What I am trying to lay out here is I have to take responsibility for
the full load.
Absyllyon, mind telling me quite literally what your interaction with him was? And was there some specific thing that caused this ripping of your energy field etc, or is it just something you would rather not share here?
It sounds to me that he quite expertly convinced some people to sort of follow him as a nagual. Quite interesting, at least from a stalking point of view, even if his intentions were not to get rid of self-importance (you could call this dark stalking yes...)
I'm just curious what all this chap did to cause such a stir lol. Appealed to the gullible I guess.Well I have met him in person a number of times. He is friendly and all that.
I have lost my way and need to be reminded of a few things, such a been grateful for the lessons. Too own up to my own power and stop giving it away. As noble as he can come across as, he makes mistakes that have severe consequences. The mistakes with me cause me to think that he can't see me. An example of this kind of mistake is of him laying a spell in stating ; "You never feel anything." As I write this I can feel the drag of the intent of those words. We were doing some movements that increase the flow of chi at the time. I was the only one who didn't feel or see anything. Well the comment just served to show me how even he can discard someone who doesn't respond to his energy and power, and to reinforce the social training I grew up with, especially at the hands of my dad. The difference with Lujan is that he claims to be a Nagual and a man of knowledge; not only that, but a sage and holding knowledge no one else has. I believed him and expected to be guided, so those words had a bigger impact than if someone else had said it, I mean I would of laughed it off. The truth is that I see and feel many things, just not so much with him is all. I felt those words and saw his weakness in them.
I moved on to other teachings that had more information and gave me more understanding over the next year and my energy started growing apace. At one point I saw that he was withdrawing from everyone and made mention of it. He told me not to write such things. Some how this innocuous comment caused an impacting ripping sensation in my solar plexus and chest as mentioned in my introduction -On the hunt. It was immediate and I had no time to maneuver myself to off set or moderate the intensity of the emotional charge. Obviously it my own emotional charge that did the damage, yet I blame him for been the catalyst. This energy field was very 'young' and delicate. I felt that as a seer he should know better, that as a man of knowledge he should intuit the impact of his statements. And as such would see the ongoing repercussions of the huge loss of energy I experienced. Either he intended such a result, did not see or he too big a Man to offer me some sort of understanding of what transpired. The energy is like a sapling that needs to be protected and nurtured and one day it will become a huge tree.
I feel betrayed by him for the paltry concern of what others will think. He was in fact withdrawing. I had thought twice about mentioning it but felt impelled to do so to help another person I did not know, who was in much emotional pain. How I knew this I am not really sure, but I did and it turned out to be so. Not only did i see him as too concerned with his image, but also as hard hearted.
He makes big claims yet in my case they have not stacked up. Actually I feel that he corrals and stagnates awareness, and suppress, or waylays burgeoning power in another - that is my experience. To understand things is very important to me and makes a huge difference to what I may be capable of. I experience suppression of understanding from him.
I have waited these few years to speak publicly because the venom and violence I felt towards him for what I thought of at the time, for pillaging my energy would have caused me to slander him in every way I could in an attempt to seek justice for his 'crime', and in no way see that it is I who needs to make my stand.
What I am trying to lay out here is I have to take responsibility for
the full load.