02-25-2015, 12:01 AM
Absyllyon wrote:*** perpetual narcissists!
No he didn't teach that.
It is precisely her fierceness that will end the lower nature in us, so that the higher can grow. This is one way of nourishing the essence that is us and whose voice cannot be heard above the cacophony of our negative emotions. The me represented is my lower nature, a nature that must be purged. The idea is to dethrone the ego, to make it give up its incessant need to be in control; in the drivers chair, to wait and listen for essence to speak. To feel a heart wrenching remorse. Self importance will never allow such a thing willingly. The pain is quite real as well as is the horror for ones situation.
I don't think I would have been hurt as much because CC never claimed the status of a messiah. In his books he claimed to be the '****'. It is like you say, one must verify all knowledge for oneself. Do not believe in another or what they say, but test and verify it for oneself.
No poblems. thanks for the chatI am in concert with Victor Sanchez in that the only things in Castaneda's books that are of true value are those things we can personally verify for ourselves. The rest are, at best, entertaining stories or a matter for debate. I have found that the ego and self-importance along with personal history are temporarily suspended when we stop our internal dialogue. The internal dialogue is the key. The value of power plants can be in their ability to temporarily suspend our internal dialogue. It is at those times that we exist in the moment and in the moment there is no past or future. Through the process we may gain a glimpse of our true natures. However, much of that glimpse will fade like a dream when we finally come down from the power plants. This is why the most important advances a warrior may make must be done in sober consciousness. It is the only way we can 'own' our experiences and have them as tools whenever we may need them.
So, to suspend the internal dialogue, at will, takes much effort, but it is a greater 'path with heart' than envisioning Kali chopping off our heads or running a sword through us. Trying to kill oneself in such a manner will only lead to a miserably dysfunctional life, at best, and death, at worst. You may try to convince us that you were trying to better your life by having Kali chop you apart, but we both know that is not the case. If death is to be worthwhile one must die a noble death; a death with honor. Suicide is not an honorable death and will lead to nowhere worth being. I tried it and was quite fortunate that I was sent back from hell to live again!
No he didn't teach that.
It is precisely her fierceness that will end the lower nature in us, so that the higher can grow. This is one way of nourishing the essence that is us and whose voice cannot be heard above the cacophony of our negative emotions. The me represented is my lower nature, a nature that must be purged. The idea is to dethrone the ego, to make it give up its incessant need to be in control; in the drivers chair, to wait and listen for essence to speak. To feel a heart wrenching remorse. Self importance will never allow such a thing willingly. The pain is quite real as well as is the horror for ones situation.
I don't think I would have been hurt as much because CC never claimed the status of a messiah. In his books he claimed to be the '****'. It is like you say, one must verify all knowledge for oneself. Do not believe in another or what they say, but test and verify it for oneself.
No poblems. thanks for the chatI am in concert with Victor Sanchez in that the only things in Castaneda's books that are of true value are those things we can personally verify for ourselves. The rest are, at best, entertaining stories or a matter for debate. I have found that the ego and self-importance along with personal history are temporarily suspended when we stop our internal dialogue. The internal dialogue is the key. The value of power plants can be in their ability to temporarily suspend our internal dialogue. It is at those times that we exist in the moment and in the moment there is no past or future. Through the process we may gain a glimpse of our true natures. However, much of that glimpse will fade like a dream when we finally come down from the power plants. This is why the most important advances a warrior may make must be done in sober consciousness. It is the only way we can 'own' our experiences and have them as tools whenever we may need them.
So, to suspend the internal dialogue, at will, takes much effort, but it is a greater 'path with heart' than envisioning Kali chopping off our heads or running a sword through us. Trying to kill oneself in such a manner will only lead to a miserably dysfunctional life, at best, and death, at worst. You may try to convince us that you were trying to better your life by having Kali chop you apart, but we both know that is not the case. If death is to be worthwhile one must die a noble death; a death with honor. Suicide is not an honorable death and will lead to nowhere worth being. I tried it and was quite fortunate that I was sent back from hell to live again!