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My experience with Lujan Matus
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Hello Everyone, My name is Nathan. Last year I sought an apprenticeship from author Lujan Matus. I liked his material and interviews so I contacted him via email. I wasn't accepted but a few days after found myself in contact with him again telepathically and his "double" which I'd see hovering in my bedroom and staring at me as he spoke to me. I thought he was helping me. Things took a turn for the worse when I found out he wasn't helping me with my troubles but rather creating them himself and acting as though he was the helper. I'm very sad as it's been over 1 year now and his double has not left me alone. Every day is a constant battle. It sometimes feels as though you're being ripped in several directions when I'm taking a simple walk (a sophisticated form of black magic that he uses). 

I don't doubt that his written material is good, but I can certify from personal experience that he's not who he presents himself to be.

Things I've undergone whilst with his double including a racing heart, body feeling cold, nightmares, hearing his voice talking to me and guilting me, seeing "visions" of people and remote viewing, hearing people's thoughts (which might not be real), feeling ripped apart in several directions, energy being stolen from me, forcing me to attack my own ancestors in the spiritual realm etc.

You might say "well this is your apprenticeship"...well, it was...for 3 months the double was teaching me many things from spells to receiving insights from the dreaming and how to "see", giving me dragon tears and windlock which would lock and prevent "predators" from stealing my power and essentially make me feel like a huge bubble infront of people who didn't have the best intentions towards me. Etc. It makes you feel untouchable. 

But I couldn't do it. He was still attacking me on a daily basis using black magick, possibly to toughen me up. Or whatever he had in mind, and now I'm no longer in the learning phase. He was too contradictory, on one hand he'd help me learn new things through showing me things in visions such as the state of the world and how people are not truly present whilst the next day filling me with anxiety through distressing thoughts about my family.

His reason that he attacked people (including me), he told me, was to help the person's karma. Apparently it was in our "karma" to be attacked due to something in the past and that it was better for him to attack us to resolve us rather than allow us to continue with life and be met with a "real" black magician who did not have the best of intentions for us. And thus in the process would teach me how I should go about to attack people who might have a future encounter with a black magician in advance to "help them resolve their karma". But as time went on, this didn't seem true as I'd never done anything serious to anyone to be "resolved" and the attacks were coming to me daily.

Unfortunately, this seems alot like like "hook of the Spirit" that Castaneda speaks about. How a Shaman will force you to learn from them for many years using shamanic techniques to hook you in. Unfortunately, I didn't think that Lujan would be that type of teacher...I always imagined him to be someone who lets people to freely come and learn from him without any obligation. I guess I was wrong. If anyone has any similar experiences with said author then please let me know so I can post it on my website.


Nathan. 
Perth, Australia
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My experience with Lujan Matus - by NathansHere - 04-21-2018, 12:00 AM
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