05-15-2018, 12:00 AM
Absyllyon wrote:
NathansHere wrote:"You win, now let me go" but he gives me satirical responses and tells me never to ask again. I tried emailing the other Lujan Matus that most are familiar with but he didn't help much. The Double has stated that he will leave me alone this July, but I'm skeptical and waiting to see. If so, I'll be the happiest man alive.
Have you retracted your intent and perhaps redirected your intent for apprenticeship to your own double?
Yes. Many times. I regret the day I e-mailed him. Even if he has taught me alot through being in my life, all that I had to go through was not necessary. But I also see his presence in my life as a sort of punishment for things I did in the past. It makes me feel like now I can go on with my life, guilt-free, now that I've been "punished" in a way. In a very extreme way which leaves no doubt in my mind that I've received more than what I "deserve". I really hope things do end in July, I'll keep you posted!
From what you write it seems to me that your intent still remains the same. I would take his double up on its statement not to ever ask again. Refocusing your intent isn't a request but a command.
The regret you hold is making your energy leak like a sieve and weakening your position to will or command anything. Stand as a warrior, seal yourself and stand firm in your decisions. No regrets, only making a new way forward. What I am saying is that only by taking everything that has happened to you and the things you have done and owning it can you regain your power. Demand from yourself that you occupy that space and feel yourself as immovable in your ownership of it. I wouldn't wait until July. You make your own karma, so take action now. Take your feeling of been traumatized into your chest whilst repeating to yourself that what hurts you only makes you stronger. Try to 'feel' the truth of this until optimism and a sense of resilience shine through.
I think that LM take on karma is erroneous, and at the worst new age spin to keep one passive. Karma is the outcome of previous thoughts, emotions and actions. Karma is the present and only we can create our karma. I don't see karma as a punishment, but as the result of my will and intent. I am its creator, therefore only I am responsible for it. I am not punished or rewarded, I receive exactly what I create. The likes of LM or any other for that matter have no say over my karma unless I allow it. They can do their worst but I claim as my own the outcome of my actions.
Interesting that LM integrity won't allow him to teach you how to protect yourself and yet he is quite willing for you to sully yours by spying and stealing for him. Of course if he did teach you then you would be able to prevent your energy been pilfered by his double.
I have heard from a few people that he uses them for gathering intel, depending on their energy and skills. Just beware that he is watched by the CIA, that he claims to be Quetzalcoatl (the Aryan Christ) reincarnated. I am sure that you have a very good idea with your experiences just what type of person you are dealing with. I have met him a few times and seen him in a dream, once in human form and another as a old jaguar. As a jaguar he tried to kill me because I refused to be locked up under his 'protection', but a part of me put an end to him, meaning that he would have had to recover the energy he lost in the encounter.
I agree that his techniques are very effective and his books, especially his first are embedded with his intent. To me that means that when I read it I inadvertently connected to him and became a possible resource to him.
If you were able to 'steal' power from other sorcerers then you should be able to take back your power from him and his double.
Interesting that LM integrity won't allow him to teach you how to protect yourself and yet he is quite willing for you to sully yours by spying and stealing for him. Of course if he did teach you then you would be able to prevent your energy been pilfered by his double.
Yes but he has no integrity, he'll take down whatever I set up to protect my energy just as he takes down my defenses to protect myself from his manipulations. He even coerces me to put my defenses up again, as if mocking or he will continue to manipulate me. And I do.
I have heard from a few people that he uses them for gathering intel, depending on their energy and skills. Just beware that he is watched by the CIA, that he claims to be Quetzalcoatl (the Aryan Christ) reincarnated.
With me, he showed me that his energy is that of many people. People will see in him "The Messiah", "The official prophet", "The egyptian prophet" or "The death defier" depending on who the person seeing him is. Each person will see him as someone significant depending on their beliefs. It's pretty interesting working with all these models and playing all these roles, You feel different...special...
I tried it on myself a few times and even had the Death Defiers turn me into one of them. I became "The Death Defier" and felt, looked, acted differently. I looked more attractive too. I felt special, like I was something or someone. But that all ended when they were trying to teach me that everything has an energy or pull to it and that sometimes you have to kill people for no reason. Just because of a balance that has to be made or something. They even apparently tried to kill me and sent me a vision/voice message that said "We're going to kill you"...at that moment, I used a "gift of power" to hurt them. They should of felt pain but probably didn't because they probably use protection techniques. But after that point, the energy I got from them immediately was one of respect. They honored me for protecting myself and made me one of them.
I have met him a few times and seen him in a dream, once in human form and another as a old jaguar. As a jaguar he tried to kill me because I refused to be locked up under his 'protection', but a part of me put an end to him, meaning that he would have had to recover the energy he lost in the encounter.
I've been in the same position. If I said I didn't want to join his posse, I was attacked. He told me that he had protected my life on several incidents to lure me into his friendship yet would manipulate me daily, hurt me, cause me to hurt others. Giving me reasons to my suffering being "meeting my own reflection", "karma", "to teach me a lesson" ("everything has a lesson in it"), etc.
I'm glad to hear you survived his attack. It can be scary coming in contact with a shaman with many years of knowledge come for you in your dreams. He picks on people smaller than him (ie. people with less knowledge). I wonder if he has genuinely killed people from time to time. And whether I'm just another person who ended up being lucky like yourself.
NathansHere wrote:"You win, now let me go" but he gives me satirical responses and tells me never to ask again. I tried emailing the other Lujan Matus that most are familiar with but he didn't help much. The Double has stated that he will leave me alone this July, but I'm skeptical and waiting to see. If so, I'll be the happiest man alive.
Have you retracted your intent and perhaps redirected your intent for apprenticeship to your own double?
Yes. Many times. I regret the day I e-mailed him. Even if he has taught me alot through being in my life, all that I had to go through was not necessary. But I also see his presence in my life as a sort of punishment for things I did in the past. It makes me feel like now I can go on with my life, guilt-free, now that I've been "punished" in a way. In a very extreme way which leaves no doubt in my mind that I've received more than what I "deserve". I really hope things do end in July, I'll keep you posted!
From what you write it seems to me that your intent still remains the same. I would take his double up on its statement not to ever ask again. Refocusing your intent isn't a request but a command.
The regret you hold is making your energy leak like a sieve and weakening your position to will or command anything. Stand as a warrior, seal yourself and stand firm in your decisions. No regrets, only making a new way forward. What I am saying is that only by taking everything that has happened to you and the things you have done and owning it can you regain your power. Demand from yourself that you occupy that space and feel yourself as immovable in your ownership of it. I wouldn't wait until July. You make your own karma, so take action now. Take your feeling of been traumatized into your chest whilst repeating to yourself that what hurts you only makes you stronger. Try to 'feel' the truth of this until optimism and a sense of resilience shine through.
I think that LM take on karma is erroneous, and at the worst new age spin to keep one passive. Karma is the outcome of previous thoughts, emotions and actions. Karma is the present and only we can create our karma. I don't see karma as a punishment, but as the result of my will and intent. I am its creator, therefore only I am responsible for it. I am not punished or rewarded, I receive exactly what I create. The likes of LM or any other for that matter have no say over my karma unless I allow it. They can do their worst but I claim as my own the outcome of my actions.
Interesting that LM integrity won't allow him to teach you how to protect yourself and yet he is quite willing for you to sully yours by spying and stealing for him. Of course if he did teach you then you would be able to prevent your energy been pilfered by his double.
I have heard from a few people that he uses them for gathering intel, depending on their energy and skills. Just beware that he is watched by the CIA, that he claims to be Quetzalcoatl (the Aryan Christ) reincarnated. I am sure that you have a very good idea with your experiences just what type of person you are dealing with. I have met him a few times and seen him in a dream, once in human form and another as a old jaguar. As a jaguar he tried to kill me because I refused to be locked up under his 'protection', but a part of me put an end to him, meaning that he would have had to recover the energy he lost in the encounter.
I agree that his techniques are very effective and his books, especially his first are embedded with his intent. To me that means that when I read it I inadvertently connected to him and became a possible resource to him.
If you were able to 'steal' power from other sorcerers then you should be able to take back your power from him and his double.
Interesting that LM integrity won't allow him to teach you how to protect yourself and yet he is quite willing for you to sully yours by spying and stealing for him. Of course if he did teach you then you would be able to prevent your energy been pilfered by his double.
Yes but he has no integrity, he'll take down whatever I set up to protect my energy just as he takes down my defenses to protect myself from his manipulations. He even coerces me to put my defenses up again, as if mocking or he will continue to manipulate me. And I do.
I have heard from a few people that he uses them for gathering intel, depending on their energy and skills. Just beware that he is watched by the CIA, that he claims to be Quetzalcoatl (the Aryan Christ) reincarnated.
With me, he showed me that his energy is that of many people. People will see in him "The Messiah", "The official prophet", "The egyptian prophet" or "The death defier" depending on who the person seeing him is. Each person will see him as someone significant depending on their beliefs. It's pretty interesting working with all these models and playing all these roles, You feel different...special...
I tried it on myself a few times and even had the Death Defiers turn me into one of them. I became "The Death Defier" and felt, looked, acted differently. I looked more attractive too. I felt special, like I was something or someone. But that all ended when they were trying to teach me that everything has an energy or pull to it and that sometimes you have to kill people for no reason. Just because of a balance that has to be made or something. They even apparently tried to kill me and sent me a vision/voice message that said "We're going to kill you"...at that moment, I used a "gift of power" to hurt them. They should of felt pain but probably didn't because they probably use protection techniques. But after that point, the energy I got from them immediately was one of respect. They honored me for protecting myself and made me one of them.
I have met him a few times and seen him in a dream, once in human form and another as a old jaguar. As a jaguar he tried to kill me because I refused to be locked up under his 'protection', but a part of me put an end to him, meaning that he would have had to recover the energy he lost in the encounter.
I've been in the same position. If I said I didn't want to join his posse, I was attacked. He told me that he had protected my life on several incidents to lure me into his friendship yet would manipulate me daily, hurt me, cause me to hurt others. Giving me reasons to my suffering being "meeting my own reflection", "karma", "to teach me a lesson" ("everything has a lesson in it"), etc.
I'm glad to hear you survived his attack. It can be scary coming in contact with a shaman with many years of knowledge come for you in your dreams. He picks on people smaller than him (ie. people with less knowledge). I wonder if he has genuinely killed people from time to time. And whether I'm just another person who ended up being lucky like yourself.