09-17-2017, 12:00 AM
rosygyro wrote:
the only people who shoud be holding in their sexual "chi" are those who have mental or emotional fuckups about sexual consent.
I believe Finwe made this thread as a place to discuss the withholding of sexual chi as a spiritual practice designed for the purpose of storing and/or gaining energy for sorceric-type purposes. It seems you're discussing the withholding of sexual chi more as though it is a sort of punishment, or at the very least a means of preventing the contamination of humanity with certain types of sexual desires which you happen to dislike.
i.e. rape fantasists pedophiles etc.. all of whom are people whos sexual energy should not extend from their tonal "EVER".
Are you aware that the most common sexual fantasies women report having are rape fantasies? It's so common that odds are even your mother probably had rape fantasies. It seems you are saying these women should never be allowed to masturbate. Or is it different if someone is fantasizing about themselves being raped, rather than raping someone else? What if a man and woman are watching a rape fetish video together? Are they allowed to have sex to this? How about masturbating; should either of them be allowed to masturbate? Which one and why?
sexual energy is a ceaseless part of our total dimension and although the river of sex is eternal
our access to it is sticcato and individual.
as such there is a HUGE divide between witnessing the river of sex
and being a part of it.
I think that all applies to consciousness as a whole.
unlike an actual river on the surface of the earth you cannot just jump into the sexual river
Because it's a metaphor?
as the sexual energy of the collective and the sexual energy of the personal are at two different xtremes of the nagual ring.
That isn't very clear to me. I don't know what you mean by nagual ring, nor what it's extremes are, nor why the sexual energy of the individual versus the collective falls on those two different extremes, nor why any of that might matter.
there were in my more sexually wanting years a few occasions where i would only know i had met a female i was sexually matched with by the fact i had spent the past 20 mintues legging it down the road trying to get away..
You only knew you were sexually matched with a girl after you'd spent 20 minutes running from the sight of her? Has it occurred to you that maybe the messages you were given about sex and your sexuality growing up weren't very good?
attempting to get away from the river instinctivly so i could make the turn to access as individual.
of course by the time i had objectve to the sex that could exist between us as personal i was already too far away to initiate any..
Ah but the benefit of that is that you were then far enough away that she would be protected from your evil sexuality, male.
But that has always been my predilection on sex.
i SEE the sexual river and its flow, but also the ugly rock that the male known is upon its bank.
What is the male known? Why do you choose to see it as ugly? Who told you it was and made you believe it?
attempting to find a place to access the female without carrying the habitual assemblage and its known
is very important to me..
but one slip and it can all go so wrong.
The habitual way men and women have dirty sex is perfectly good.
habitual assemblage of the known is nt just the perpetuation of systemic rape in the vein of honoured patriarchy.
You know the feminists who created that kind of language want to kill you right? First of all, the feminist concept of patriarchy - that because most of the most powerful people in a society are men we can conclude that they must use that power to benefit men at large - is false. In order to conclude that the powerful people are using that power to benefit one sex over the other we have to actually look at how they use their power, not what gender they are. And when we actually look at that it becomes obvious that powerful people, whether male or female, have always used their power more to help women than men. No legitimate patriarchy has ever been shown to exist.
Secondly, "honoured patriarchy"? Are you nuts? Have you not heard the millions of deluded idiots shouting about how horrible patriarchy is for the past 70 years? Where is anyone honoring patriarchy?
Third... "Systemic rape"? No! There is no systemic rape. Rape is frowned upon. Nobody likes rape. Even in jail, rapists get treated horribly by other criminals as punishment for committing such an unacceptable act. As with other acts that are so frowned upon and heavily punished rape isn't happening very much. The feminazi generated 1 in 4 and 1 in 5 statistics the media keeps hyping about rape are total BS. Go check the police records instead. The real numbers of women who are raped are closer to 1 in 1000. And don't buy that **** about "women are afraid of being called a slut so that's why they don't report the other 249 out of 1000 rapes". Does that actually make any sense to you? Do you know *any* women who even worry about being called a slut at all... let alone actually think they would be called one if they told people they were raped? The truth is we don't live in a rape culture, there is no "systemic rape" and never was. What we actually have is a rape-phobic culture created by feminists in order to demonize men and raise money for "spreading awareness" and other such BS.
it is also recognising the cheap and ordinary, generic and everyday common desires to just *** all the women on the planet.
That doesn't sound ordinary to me. I'd say what's more ordinary is to want to *** a bunch of attractive women. Not unattractive ones, and certainly not every woman on the planet. Likewise I imagine the ordinary woman wants to *** a variety of attractive men.
you dont think there are perverts who work in dildo factories? who carry the cartons of shlongs to the delivery trucks
like they are sending their own personal fucks?
It wasn't that long ago when masturbating was considered perverted. Why aren't the women who buy and use the dildos getting called perverts here? Why only the guy who masturbates thinking about the possible women who might be using the dildo he made? Do all of your judgements on sex fit into the "women sex good, men sex bad" model?
It is very commonplace and ordinary (hence habitual) for a male to try to *** the unknown..
Actually I'm pretty sure men want to know *what* they're fucking at the very least.
for where his known exists the unknown is displaced.
he may remain ignorant as long as he plugs the holes to awarness.
there is absoluteley no knowledge in making an icebreaker of your prick.
You seem to be linking the knows, (the tonal), with male sex parts and the unknown, (the nagual), with female ones. Why do you do this? You could just as easily analogize male sex parts to the nagual and female parts to the tonal. Then your last sentences would read...
"For where her known exists the unknown is enveloped.
She may remain ignorant as long as she veils the pillars of awareness,
There is absolutely no knowledge in making a tarp of your snatch."
... and it would be no less reasonable than the metaphor you're using.
An alternative way to look at sex parts is to view them whether male or female as just a small part of the tonal. Neither males nor females are born with superior nagual genitals. That would be an egalitarian view, as opposed to the feminist view you seem to be looking at them from now.
when you try to takedown the systemic known in your sexual energy
you will undersatnd that it is not just a case of not being habitual in your energy
but you must also practice not-doing.
Re-arrange your sexual energy however you like, but I'd advise you start by recapping all the messages about how evil male sexuality is that seem to have worked their way into your worldview first.
the only people who shoud be holding in their sexual "chi" are those who have mental or emotional fuckups about sexual consent.
I believe Finwe made this thread as a place to discuss the withholding of sexual chi as a spiritual practice designed for the purpose of storing and/or gaining energy for sorceric-type purposes. It seems you're discussing the withholding of sexual chi more as though it is a sort of punishment, or at the very least a means of preventing the contamination of humanity with certain types of sexual desires which you happen to dislike.
i.e. rape fantasists pedophiles etc.. all of whom are people whos sexual energy should not extend from their tonal "EVER".
Are you aware that the most common sexual fantasies women report having are rape fantasies? It's so common that odds are even your mother probably had rape fantasies. It seems you are saying these women should never be allowed to masturbate. Or is it different if someone is fantasizing about themselves being raped, rather than raping someone else? What if a man and woman are watching a rape fetish video together? Are they allowed to have sex to this? How about masturbating; should either of them be allowed to masturbate? Which one and why?
sexual energy is a ceaseless part of our total dimension and although the river of sex is eternal
our access to it is sticcato and individual.
as such there is a HUGE divide between witnessing the river of sex
and being a part of it.
I think that all applies to consciousness as a whole.
unlike an actual river on the surface of the earth you cannot just jump into the sexual river
Because it's a metaphor?
as the sexual energy of the collective and the sexual energy of the personal are at two different xtremes of the nagual ring.
That isn't very clear to me. I don't know what you mean by nagual ring, nor what it's extremes are, nor why the sexual energy of the individual versus the collective falls on those two different extremes, nor why any of that might matter.
there were in my more sexually wanting years a few occasions where i would only know i had met a female i was sexually matched with by the fact i had spent the past 20 mintues legging it down the road trying to get away..
You only knew you were sexually matched with a girl after you'd spent 20 minutes running from the sight of her? Has it occurred to you that maybe the messages you were given about sex and your sexuality growing up weren't very good?
attempting to get away from the river instinctivly so i could make the turn to access as individual.
of course by the time i had objectve to the sex that could exist between us as personal i was already too far away to initiate any..
Ah but the benefit of that is that you were then far enough away that she would be protected from your evil sexuality, male.
But that has always been my predilection on sex.
i SEE the sexual river and its flow, but also the ugly rock that the male known is upon its bank.
What is the male known? Why do you choose to see it as ugly? Who told you it was and made you believe it?
attempting to find a place to access the female without carrying the habitual assemblage and its known
is very important to me..
but one slip and it can all go so wrong.
The habitual way men and women have dirty sex is perfectly good.
habitual assemblage of the known is nt just the perpetuation of systemic rape in the vein of honoured patriarchy.
You know the feminists who created that kind of language want to kill you right? First of all, the feminist concept of patriarchy - that because most of the most powerful people in a society are men we can conclude that they must use that power to benefit men at large - is false. In order to conclude that the powerful people are using that power to benefit one sex over the other we have to actually look at how they use their power, not what gender they are. And when we actually look at that it becomes obvious that powerful people, whether male or female, have always used their power more to help women than men. No legitimate patriarchy has ever been shown to exist.
Secondly, "honoured patriarchy"? Are you nuts? Have you not heard the millions of deluded idiots shouting about how horrible patriarchy is for the past 70 years? Where is anyone honoring patriarchy?
Third... "Systemic rape"? No! There is no systemic rape. Rape is frowned upon. Nobody likes rape. Even in jail, rapists get treated horribly by other criminals as punishment for committing such an unacceptable act. As with other acts that are so frowned upon and heavily punished rape isn't happening very much. The feminazi generated 1 in 4 and 1 in 5 statistics the media keeps hyping about rape are total BS. Go check the police records instead. The real numbers of women who are raped are closer to 1 in 1000. And don't buy that **** about "women are afraid of being called a slut so that's why they don't report the other 249 out of 1000 rapes". Does that actually make any sense to you? Do you know *any* women who even worry about being called a slut at all... let alone actually think they would be called one if they told people they were raped? The truth is we don't live in a rape culture, there is no "systemic rape" and never was. What we actually have is a rape-phobic culture created by feminists in order to demonize men and raise money for "spreading awareness" and other such BS.
it is also recognising the cheap and ordinary, generic and everyday common desires to just *** all the women on the planet.
That doesn't sound ordinary to me. I'd say what's more ordinary is to want to *** a bunch of attractive women. Not unattractive ones, and certainly not every woman on the planet. Likewise I imagine the ordinary woman wants to *** a variety of attractive men.
you dont think there are perverts who work in dildo factories? who carry the cartons of shlongs to the delivery trucks
like they are sending their own personal fucks?
It wasn't that long ago when masturbating was considered perverted. Why aren't the women who buy and use the dildos getting called perverts here? Why only the guy who masturbates thinking about the possible women who might be using the dildo he made? Do all of your judgements on sex fit into the "women sex good, men sex bad" model?
It is very commonplace and ordinary (hence habitual) for a male to try to *** the unknown..
Actually I'm pretty sure men want to know *what* they're fucking at the very least.
for where his known exists the unknown is displaced.
he may remain ignorant as long as he plugs the holes to awarness.
there is absoluteley no knowledge in making an icebreaker of your prick.
You seem to be linking the knows, (the tonal), with male sex parts and the unknown, (the nagual), with female ones. Why do you do this? You could just as easily analogize male sex parts to the nagual and female parts to the tonal. Then your last sentences would read...
"For where her known exists the unknown is enveloped.
She may remain ignorant as long as she veils the pillars of awareness,
There is absolutely no knowledge in making a tarp of your snatch."
... and it would be no less reasonable than the metaphor you're using.
An alternative way to look at sex parts is to view them whether male or female as just a small part of the tonal. Neither males nor females are born with superior nagual genitals. That would be an egalitarian view, as opposed to the feminist view you seem to be looking at them from now.
when you try to takedown the systemic known in your sexual energy
you will undersatnd that it is not just a case of not being habitual in your energy
but you must also practice not-doing.
Re-arrange your sexual energy however you like, but I'd advise you start by recapping all the messages about how evil male sexuality is that seem to have worked their way into your worldview first.