11-17-2017, 12:00 AM
Pixie Dust wrote:
Le_Regard wrote:
Pixie Dust wrote:
The number of people medicating themselves with substance use, either over-the-counter or prescribed by their doctor is huge. We're a world full of suffering--the haves, the have-nots, everyone is exposed and only those with high coping skills steer clear from the booby-traps. Coping skills are learned from a great support group or educating oneself (from people or books). The fortunate have both.
If you have stats and research to discuss to support your opinions on mental health that would be enjoyable. Until then, you can share your opinions with Mr. Lemon Balm while I excuse myself from an unsupported and opinionated discussion. All I cared about was pointing Alone back to his doctor. Did that. Nothing left to discuss unless there's research involved in the discussion.
You want statistics? Treating people like statistics is how we got into this mess in the first place. If you want to keep running the world your way, go ahead, but I think we can both agree it's not working.
But wait, let me keep using an impersonal and academic approach to really drive home the point that it's a faulty method.
All methods are flawed, in exactly the same ways all maps are flawed, in that they fundamentally are just NOT the territory they're supposed to guide you through.
Everyone wants to have a map, and a GOOD map, a peer reviewed map published in a credible scientific journal. I get that. I really do get that some maps are better or worse, more or less useful, than other maps. But they're still maps. People are not maps, people are territory. If our strategy is to keep our hands clean and plot other human beings as points on OUR map and then try to move them about like chess pieces, it doesn't work. It will never work.
Le_Regard wrote:
Pixie Dust wrote:
The number of people medicating themselves with substance use, either over-the-counter or prescribed by their doctor is huge. We're a world full of suffering--the haves, the have-nots, everyone is exposed and only those with high coping skills steer clear from the booby-traps. Coping skills are learned from a great support group or educating oneself (from people or books). The fortunate have both.
If you have stats and research to discuss to support your opinions on mental health that would be enjoyable. Until then, you can share your opinions with Mr. Lemon Balm while I excuse myself from an unsupported and opinionated discussion. All I cared about was pointing Alone back to his doctor. Did that. Nothing left to discuss unless there's research involved in the discussion.
You want statistics? Treating people like statistics is how we got into this mess in the first place. If you want to keep running the world your way, go ahead, but I think we can both agree it's not working.
But wait, let me keep using an impersonal and academic approach to really drive home the point that it's a faulty method.
All methods are flawed, in exactly the same ways all maps are flawed, in that they fundamentally are just NOT the territory they're supposed to guide you through.
Everyone wants to have a map, and a GOOD map, a peer reviewed map published in a credible scientific journal. I get that. I really do get that some maps are better or worse, more or less useful, than other maps. But they're still maps. People are not maps, people are territory. If our strategy is to keep our hands clean and plot other human beings as points on OUR map and then try to move them about like chess pieces, it doesn't work. It will never work.

