11-12-2017, 12:01 AM
Julio Juliopolis wrote:
rosygyro wrote:
Will is what you want to happen
intent is what actually happens
intent is replaceable by will to a certain extent.
will however is the less immpeccable force.
You make a good point that we should distinguish between intent and will. Intent, as used above in post #106 is defined as a force with 4 components that dictates what will manifest. I would say that what "actually happens" is the result of intent, as sometimes what happens is what someone else intended and might go against what we intended but our intent wasn't strong enough. Will on the other hand it looks like you've accidentally given 2 definitions to. The first is "what you want to happen" and the second is "a force". In order to avoid any fallacies of ambiguity we should only use one definition per term. The easiest thing to do is to use the word preference for "what you want to happen" an use the word will exclusively to refer to the force you mean.
I believe I know what force you're referring to with the word will, but I would suggest it is in fact the same force as intent. The difference being will is the attempt of ordinary people to use intent deliberately. Things like rolling a dice and trying to "will" a certain outcome. Or using willpower to quit smoking. That sort of thing. If we look at the components of intent when people are trying to use their will, it tends to look like the following...
Example 1 - Willing an outcome on a dice roll,
Example 2 - Quitting smoking.
Beliefs -
1. Conflicting belief that people can't control dice rolls with their will. Yet there's also a belief that maybe they can do it if they just focus and hope enough. Any previous examples of anyone successfully doing it though have probably been written off as coincidence as will this next one if it succeeds.
2. Quitting smoking is tough. It takes a lot of effort and willpower.
Emotional Energy -
1. A person might put a lot of energy into their hope that the dice roll turns out to be what they want.
2. Again, a person might be putting a lot of energy into their attempt to quit smoking. They're also likely inadvertently putting a lot of energy into making it hard to do.
Specific Aim -
1. The die roller is usually aiming to get a specific result, perhaps a 6 on a 6 sided die. Alternatively they might just be hoping to get "higher than 3". Another possibility is they are accidentally aiming for a number, (let's say 1), by focusing on getting "anything but 1".
2. Usually the would be non-smoker is aiming to win a battle over the urge to smoke for a specific time period. The time period varies continually, (I'm trying to make it through this week... if I can only make it past my lunchbreak without a cigarette, etc.).
Imagination -
1. The die roller is probably imagining a 6 showing up as a result of the roll, (assuming that's what they're trying to will to happen), but could be distracted by quick imaginings of other results. These sorts of things do affect the aim.
2. The quitter is most likely imagining themselves having a great battle with their smoking habit, comprised of a number of smaller battles.
When we look at the way people ordinarily attempt to cause change using their willpower, (which again is just a rather uninformed way of attempting to use intent deliberately), it's easy to see why the force intent is the more powerful force as it's what will really manifest as a result of those 4 factors, (see post #106 above). If instead people would use "will", (or deliberate intent), in an informed way, knowing the factors which influence it and choosing to align them with their preferences they would find their attempts much more effective. Doing it in the ideal way; which means to have the right beliefs, apply the right emotional energy, imagine only the exact desired result, and be unchanging in your aim is what I believe is meant by "unbending intent".
My stuff in red.
But the stages of development i.e. puberty, the ceaseless beating of the heart and breathing, the intake of nutrition and expulsion of spent material are intent.
intent is with you from day one as the perpetuating force that keeps you alive in the corporeal.
This is why intent is so closeley linked with totality- i.e. the componants and keynotes of your entire life over time- because it is rooted in those parts of you without which you would be dead and which have always perpetated behind the scenes up until the point you learned the word intent.
and even then your new word "intent" is superceded by the invisible continuity of your entire life up until the point of learning the word.
its damningly tricky.. that such a force of intent , which is straight and true to form.. cannot suddenly be subject to decision of belief or applied emotion..
can only be changed with articles of your totality that have also ridden the distance behind the scenes,
furthermore- so as to be back on track with current global concerns and not the art of impressing people at the casino..
much like the heartbeat there also exists intent in the sexual energy and tantra.
there is a dual intent.
namely that the perpetuation of physical health is linked to the closing of the gap and tantric gates when not physicly in use.
but also that the deeper intent drive of the perpetuation of mankind has an intelrocking intent of sexual union.
what we have in current day earth is a liminal energy without clear intent which allows sexual energetic attachment to exist with people when they are not in sexual physical union,i.e. abuse damage.
when really as individuals we should all be able to have cast iron sexual tantra when not involved in sexual activity.
much like the heartbeat and breathing perpetuates, the perpetuation of physcial form should be as individual as our own heartbeat.
the totality of our mortal sexuality should be our own.. as its default mode, subroutine, behind the scenes base programme.
of course we dont want humans exuality to end - that could mark the death of the species.
but also it cannot continue to be described by inheraent awarness or inherited sexual traits.. as with these our species will also becon destruction.
i am aware that males and females have periods of time when they are engaged in sexual intercourse..
but this is not their totality and is more alied with the "potential" totality of their progeny, or indeed the potential progeny of any involved in such an act.
must demarcate the polarities.
the intent of the individual and the intent of the group.
must not sound like want to write a crappy lampstand book.
rosygyro wrote:
Will is what you want to happen
intent is what actually happens
intent is replaceable by will to a certain extent.
will however is the less immpeccable force.
You make a good point that we should distinguish between intent and will. Intent, as used above in post #106 is defined as a force with 4 components that dictates what will manifest. I would say that what "actually happens" is the result of intent, as sometimes what happens is what someone else intended and might go against what we intended but our intent wasn't strong enough. Will on the other hand it looks like you've accidentally given 2 definitions to. The first is "what you want to happen" and the second is "a force". In order to avoid any fallacies of ambiguity we should only use one definition per term. The easiest thing to do is to use the word preference for "what you want to happen" an use the word will exclusively to refer to the force you mean.
I believe I know what force you're referring to with the word will, but I would suggest it is in fact the same force as intent. The difference being will is the attempt of ordinary people to use intent deliberately. Things like rolling a dice and trying to "will" a certain outcome. Or using willpower to quit smoking. That sort of thing. If we look at the components of intent when people are trying to use their will, it tends to look like the following...
Example 1 - Willing an outcome on a dice roll,
Example 2 - Quitting smoking.
Beliefs -
1. Conflicting belief that people can't control dice rolls with their will. Yet there's also a belief that maybe they can do it if they just focus and hope enough. Any previous examples of anyone successfully doing it though have probably been written off as coincidence as will this next one if it succeeds.
2. Quitting smoking is tough. It takes a lot of effort and willpower.
Emotional Energy -
1. A person might put a lot of energy into their hope that the dice roll turns out to be what they want.
2. Again, a person might be putting a lot of energy into their attempt to quit smoking. They're also likely inadvertently putting a lot of energy into making it hard to do.
Specific Aim -
1. The die roller is usually aiming to get a specific result, perhaps a 6 on a 6 sided die. Alternatively they might just be hoping to get "higher than 3". Another possibility is they are accidentally aiming for a number, (let's say 1), by focusing on getting "anything but 1".
2. Usually the would be non-smoker is aiming to win a battle over the urge to smoke for a specific time period. The time period varies continually, (I'm trying to make it through this week... if I can only make it past my lunchbreak without a cigarette, etc.).
Imagination -
1. The die roller is probably imagining a 6 showing up as a result of the roll, (assuming that's what they're trying to will to happen), but could be distracted by quick imaginings of other results. These sorts of things do affect the aim.
2. The quitter is most likely imagining themselves having a great battle with their smoking habit, comprised of a number of smaller battles.
When we look at the way people ordinarily attempt to cause change using their willpower, (which again is just a rather uninformed way of attempting to use intent deliberately), it's easy to see why the force intent is the more powerful force as it's what will really manifest as a result of those 4 factors, (see post #106 above). If instead people would use "will", (or deliberate intent), in an informed way, knowing the factors which influence it and choosing to align them with their preferences they would find their attempts much more effective. Doing it in the ideal way; which means to have the right beliefs, apply the right emotional energy, imagine only the exact desired result, and be unchanging in your aim is what I believe is meant by "unbending intent".
My stuff in red.
But the stages of development i.e. puberty, the ceaseless beating of the heart and breathing, the intake of nutrition and expulsion of spent material are intent.
intent is with you from day one as the perpetuating force that keeps you alive in the corporeal.
This is why intent is so closeley linked with totality- i.e. the componants and keynotes of your entire life over time- because it is rooted in those parts of you without which you would be dead and which have always perpetated behind the scenes up until the point you learned the word intent.
and even then your new word "intent" is superceded by the invisible continuity of your entire life up until the point of learning the word.
its damningly tricky.. that such a force of intent , which is straight and true to form.. cannot suddenly be subject to decision of belief or applied emotion..
can only be changed with articles of your totality that have also ridden the distance behind the scenes,
furthermore- so as to be back on track with current global concerns and not the art of impressing people at the casino..
much like the heartbeat there also exists intent in the sexual energy and tantra.
there is a dual intent.
namely that the perpetuation of physical health is linked to the closing of the gap and tantric gates when not physicly in use.
but also that the deeper intent drive of the perpetuation of mankind has an intelrocking intent of sexual union.
what we have in current day earth is a liminal energy without clear intent which allows sexual energetic attachment to exist with people when they are not in sexual physical union,i.e. abuse damage.
when really as individuals we should all be able to have cast iron sexual tantra when not involved in sexual activity.
much like the heartbeat and breathing perpetuates, the perpetuation of physcial form should be as individual as our own heartbeat.
the totality of our mortal sexuality should be our own.. as its default mode, subroutine, behind the scenes base programme.
of course we dont want humans exuality to end - that could mark the death of the species.
but also it cannot continue to be described by inheraent awarness or inherited sexual traits.. as with these our species will also becon destruction.
i am aware that males and females have periods of time when they are engaged in sexual intercourse..
but this is not their totality and is more alied with the "potential" totality of their progeny, or indeed the potential progeny of any involved in such an act.
must demarcate the polarities.
the intent of the individual and the intent of the group.
must not sound like want to write a crappy lampstand book.