03-31-2014, 12:00 AM
Littlepaw wrote:Julio,
Men treat women like ****!!!!
No need to get mad bro. It looks like we're getting to the root of some of our disagreements here.Littlepaw wrote:Fact. Surely you don't think writing that strengthened your argument? Littlepaw wrote: What difficulty could you possibly have accepting this? Perhaps the fact that I'm not blinded by gender-selective empathy?
I've seen a few men treat some women like ****. I've certainly seen more women treat men like ****. I've seen a lot of men treat women very well. I've seen very few women treat men very well. When men treat women like ****, usually it amounts to hurting their feelings. When women treat men like ****, usually it amounts to ruining them financially and/or taking their children away from them. Which would you rather experience?
Sometimes though, there is violence. Statistics show that men and women are equally guilty of domestic violence. Usually, domestic violence in a relationship is a two-way street. IOW, both parties in the relationship are guilty of it. Women are far more likely to use weapons, (including improvised weapons, like pots and pans), in domestic violence situations. If needed, I could go dig up those statistics for you.
How about cheating? Seems like just about everyone cheats nowadays. I imagine men and women are about equally guilty of cheating. If there is a disparity, I'd bet it would be women who cheat more just out of having more opportunities to do so. I'd also imagine that there are studies where they simply ask people how often they've cheated and I think women are more likely to lie on these studies; either out of rationalizations men are far less likely to make such as "well that one didn't count", or because they are taught to have political motivations to make women as a whole look better while very few men have such political motivations.
So in relationships it seems to me that most people are treating most people poorly in some way or another. This "women have the problems, men ARE the problems" view seems very one-sided and childish to me.Littlepaw wrote:Wishing that the world was free from gender equality and bigotry does
not change the fact that the world is not like that at all! Of course the world isn't like that. Its just that we seem to have a different idea of whom the majority of the bigotry is against.Littlepaw wrote:Your
opinions will only work with people with similar opinions, screw
everybody else.I don't even know what that means. I'm not screwing over anyone and there's no reason any open minded person might adopt similar opinions to my own. Nor are my opinions free from being modified if greater evidence is presented against them than for them. I'm not the one who says things like "Men are right and women are wrong!!! Fact.".
BTW, I notice your last reply here had nothing to do with my argument that Kelly was expressing bigotry but instead seemed like an attempted justification for the bigotry.
Men treat women like ****!!!!
No need to get mad bro. It looks like we're getting to the root of some of our disagreements here.Littlepaw wrote:Fact. Surely you don't think writing that strengthened your argument? Littlepaw wrote: What difficulty could you possibly have accepting this? Perhaps the fact that I'm not blinded by gender-selective empathy?
I've seen a few men treat some women like ****. I've certainly seen more women treat men like ****. I've seen a lot of men treat women very well. I've seen very few women treat men very well. When men treat women like ****, usually it amounts to hurting their feelings. When women treat men like ****, usually it amounts to ruining them financially and/or taking their children away from them. Which would you rather experience?
Sometimes though, there is violence. Statistics show that men and women are equally guilty of domestic violence. Usually, domestic violence in a relationship is a two-way street. IOW, both parties in the relationship are guilty of it. Women are far more likely to use weapons, (including improvised weapons, like pots and pans), in domestic violence situations. If needed, I could go dig up those statistics for you.
How about cheating? Seems like just about everyone cheats nowadays. I imagine men and women are about equally guilty of cheating. If there is a disparity, I'd bet it would be women who cheat more just out of having more opportunities to do so. I'd also imagine that there are studies where they simply ask people how often they've cheated and I think women are more likely to lie on these studies; either out of rationalizations men are far less likely to make such as "well that one didn't count", or because they are taught to have political motivations to make women as a whole look better while very few men have such political motivations.
So in relationships it seems to me that most people are treating most people poorly in some way or another. This "women have the problems, men ARE the problems" view seems very one-sided and childish to me.Littlepaw wrote:Wishing that the world was free from gender equality and bigotry does
not change the fact that the world is not like that at all! Of course the world isn't like that. Its just that we seem to have a different idea of whom the majority of the bigotry is against.Littlepaw wrote:Your
opinions will only work with people with similar opinions, screw
everybody else.I don't even know what that means. I'm not screwing over anyone and there's no reason any open minded person might adopt similar opinions to my own. Nor are my opinions free from being modified if greater evidence is presented against them than for them. I'm not the one who says things like "Men are right and women are wrong!!! Fact.".
BTW, I notice your last reply here had nothing to do with my argument that Kelly was expressing bigotry but instead seemed like an attempted justification for the bigotry.