07-26-2008, 12:00 AM
"Pennance is more correct. For nothing can be completely undone , and Christian atonement isn't about that anyway."
Penance is Catholic not Christian. Like I said before don't lump everyone together because of what they call themselves.
"Being born-again? While a life can be remade, as Juan said about Carlos: we are still the same idiots as always."
Being "born from above" is a life changing experience. An awareness of something that the person was not aware of before.
To exclude idiots would be elitist.
But to stand up in front of a church and say the words and make a show of emotion is not what being "born from above" is. You are buying into
propaganda if you believe that.
Penance is Catholic not Christian. Like I said before don't lump everyone together because of what they call themselves.
"Being born-again? While a life can be remade, as Juan said about Carlos: we are still the same idiots as always."
Being "born from above" is a life changing experience. An awareness of something that the person was not aware of before.
To exclude idiots would be elitist.
But to stand up in front of a church and say the words and make a show of emotion is not what being "born from above" is. You are buying into
propaganda if you believe that.

