08-06-2016, 12:00 AM
serloco wrote:I spent a decade or two hunting power. SUre I found it and i can tell the president what to do, or science what to find, I can disappear and make anything i want. But do you know what i want most? I want to be normal with a house i bought and a woman i love. My awareness is so screwed I cant even imagine a normal person. All I see is mind control, tellers, commands, movers. I hate it all. Power is a waste of time. Lust and greed. The best thing in life is love.
I like shamanka's concept, that the word 'love' for warriors, is too ambiguous. Rethink 'love' as the height of well-being. At the height of well-being, we then can share a sense of that with others. Your judgements of power, lust, and greed are off base. What exists does exist. Constructive empowerment first objectifies rather than discriminates. No qualities of being have to cause the exclusivity of integrated self-union.
You are being put to the test by self-manufactured qualities of what is an ideal tonal. Yes, Billy DOES have EVERYTHING (really), but it is without the onus of random desire you are tonally projecting. If you will NOT be wholesome in THIS (as is), you will not be wholesome. That is, changing conditions will not alter ultimate well-being.
I expected this 'bonsai endeavor' would put your wonderful nagual experience at difference with the tonal. The two are not contradictory. I reconciled my tonal and nagual drives/ambitions with having the ultimate heights of well-being by keeping focus on perspective. When I hear you speak of money to be had from the bonsai pursuit I know you are in trouble. Such vocation has to become a matter of perfecting one's spirit. Ironically, the material rewards typically follow. I know lots of persons who have attained wealth, and ALL of them are miserable. They do not exist as whole persons. That is, they never considered integrity. Who are you Derek?
I am not discouraging you from tonal occupation. I WANT you to have it for the right reasons, just as you advised me on crossing over to explore wisdom by change of attentions. I know a great deal about living, but only because I had few remarkable friends who showed me the foundational knowledge.
You might read 'billys basic detachment practice' #101 to #120.
I like shamanka's concept, that the word 'love' for warriors, is too ambiguous. Rethink 'love' as the height of well-being. At the height of well-being, we then can share a sense of that with others. Your judgements of power, lust, and greed are off base. What exists does exist. Constructive empowerment first objectifies rather than discriminates. No qualities of being have to cause the exclusivity of integrated self-union.
You are being put to the test by self-manufactured qualities of what is an ideal tonal. Yes, Billy DOES have EVERYTHING (really), but it is without the onus of random desire you are tonally projecting. If you will NOT be wholesome in THIS (as is), you will not be wholesome. That is, changing conditions will not alter ultimate well-being.
I expected this 'bonsai endeavor' would put your wonderful nagual experience at difference with the tonal. The two are not contradictory. I reconciled my tonal and nagual drives/ambitions with having the ultimate heights of well-being by keeping focus on perspective. When I hear you speak of money to be had from the bonsai pursuit I know you are in trouble. Such vocation has to become a matter of perfecting one's spirit. Ironically, the material rewards typically follow. I know lots of persons who have attained wealth, and ALL of them are miserable. They do not exist as whole persons. That is, they never considered integrity. Who are you Derek?
I am not discouraging you from tonal occupation. I WANT you to have it for the right reasons, just as you advised me on crossing over to explore wisdom by change of attentions. I know a great deal about living, but only because I had few remarkable friends who showed me the foundational knowledge.
You might read 'billys basic detachment practice' #101 to #120.