10-18-2011, 12:00 AM
BarefootInTheSand
wrote:Thanks Phe. With all due respect,
however, I am still going to place my trust in the people I have
spoken to from those various backgrounds over anything published on the
internet...hope you can understand. I will also continue
to contend that Castaneda did not use the word nahualli in his books
and that the link between the two words is a human construction.
While I am sure that you did your research, I doubt that you spoke to
native speakers to verify if what you were reading was true or bore
any resembelence(sic) to the truth. It might not seem like it, and
you may feel that I am being nit picky, but there is a freedom in
accepting responsibility for having made a false connection or
attributing a meaning that wasn't there...having found that freedom I
am now protective of my own tendency to slip into making false
connections or giving meanings. I also wish to acknowledge Wolf's answer to the question
about what the word meant to him which has nothing to do with
anything else that has been raised in an attempt to sidetrack and
derail the conversation. It seems to be a frequent
problem in these forums and I wish I could find Lujan's response that
I read the other day about the effect it has.
All due
respect, the information noted re the definitions was not posted on
the internet, if you read the response. If not, it was “The study
of Nagualism was initiated by noted archaeologist, linguist and
ethnologist Daniel Garrison Brinton who published a treatise called
"Nagualism: A Study in Native-American Folklore and History"
which chronicled historical interpretations of the word and those who
practiced nagualism in Mexico in 1894 “. I have a copy if you would
like to read it.
The name of the thread is
“Questions for Lone Wolf”. It seems appropriate to me, in any
discussion, to define terms. Where has it been sidetracked or
derailed, except by your posts?
I stated at the
very beginning my suspicions. They have been satisfied. The fact
remains the current definition of “Nagual” comes from the works
of Castaneda, despite its earlier definition which don Juan himself
said was incorrect. The notion of four energetic compartments as
well is from Castaneda, and LW has essentially expanded upon that
definition in a rather plausible manner.
wrote:Thanks Phe. With all due respect,
however, I am still going to place my trust in the people I have
spoken to from those various backgrounds over anything published on the
internet...hope you can understand. I will also continue
to contend that Castaneda did not use the word nahualli in his books
and that the link between the two words is a human construction.
While I am sure that you did your research, I doubt that you spoke to
native speakers to verify if what you were reading was true or bore
any resembelence(sic) to the truth. It might not seem like it, and
you may feel that I am being nit picky, but there is a freedom in
accepting responsibility for having made a false connection or
attributing a meaning that wasn't there...having found that freedom I
am now protective of my own tendency to slip into making false
connections or giving meanings. I also wish to acknowledge Wolf's answer to the question
about what the word meant to him which has nothing to do with
anything else that has been raised in an attempt to sidetrack and
derail the conversation. It seems to be a frequent
problem in these forums and I wish I could find Lujan's response that
I read the other day about the effect it has.
All due
respect, the information noted re the definitions was not posted on
the internet, if you read the response. If not, it was “The study
of Nagualism was initiated by noted archaeologist, linguist and
ethnologist Daniel Garrison Brinton who published a treatise called
"Nagualism: A Study in Native-American Folklore and History"
which chronicled historical interpretations of the word and those who
practiced nagualism in Mexico in 1894 “. I have a copy if you would
like to read it.
The name of the thread is
“Questions for Lone Wolf”. It seems appropriate to me, in any
discussion, to define terms. Where has it been sidetracked or
derailed, except by your posts?
I stated at the
very beginning my suspicions. They have been satisfied. The fact
remains the current definition of “Nagual” comes from the works
of Castaneda, despite its earlier definition which don Juan himself
said was incorrect. The notion of four energetic compartments as
well is from Castaneda, and LW has essentially expanded upon that
definition in a rather plausible manner.