05-29-2011, 12:00 AM
Nu Lang wrote:
Bob May wrote:
Hi Nu Lang,
I really love this pic! This one's in color, nice
Thanks for explaining the qualifier Bob. Do you think its that we know God from beginning to end, or rather in God there is seen no beginning or end, whereas in worldly view its beginning/end, cause/effect. I think so, I think in 'worldly mind', explanations are sought in linear fashion which means to the one seeking in such a way...something must begin and something must end. Yet that's just a thought.
For example, one driving in their car sees a person walking along a desert highway. Linear mind...may assume, one its a person who is walking, two the person was born here on earth and thus they will die, and three, that person therefore must be just like them.
A seer/sorcerer may see, one its not a person who is walking, two its birth/death are unknowns, and three, they are not just like them...
Ec 3:11
He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
I want to clarify something. John the Baptist and Solomon had the Spirit of God. They were way beyond men of their time or men having been born up to the time they were born. Jesus said a greater than John was here and he also said a greater than Solomon was here.
There is something more concerning the Spirit available now to those who enter tyhe Kingdom of heaven.
There are many things we can learn from scripture. We may get a revelation concerning a specific scripture and years later learn something more and different from it. This does not mean what we first got was wrong. We just got more out of it because there is more hidden there. And sometimes it speaks to us.
There is no beginning or end in God. Our spirit comes from God and returns to God. John came from God in a different way because it specifically states that, "there was a man who came from God who's name was John." Jesus likewise. Our souls are of the earth. God breathed (Ruach spirit) on the dust of the earth and he became a living soul (Nepesch soul). Later we were given coats of skins (bodies.)
because man goeth to his long home, and the mourners go about the streets:
Ec 12:6
Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
Ec 12:7
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
I think Solomon is pondering this life and it's end. If the dust returns to the ground and the spirit returns to God who gave it, What happens to us?
what is our "long home"?
He is speaking of cycles. The spirit returns to God. The dust returns to the earth.
Ec 1:3
What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh UNDER THE SUN?
Ec 1:9
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and There is no new thing UNDER THE SUN.
Ec 1:14
I have seen all the works that are done UNDER THE SUN; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit
He is speaking about all he has learned about this realm of cycles. Time and space. But pondering what lies beyond.
He knew everytrhing there was to know "under the sun."
I do not believe he is speaking about the physical sun but a level of awareness. The sphere of Tipareth in the Tree of life above is called the sun center and the Christ center.
Above that is the abyss Daath. This Christ center recieves an influx or influence from the supernal triangle. The Godhead.
This is the place or state of awareness that Jesus functioned from as a man here on earth. All of his thoughts, words and actions were revelation from above the abyss. From the Father, Chokmah Wisdom.
Believers are promised that we are growing into him. That "we shall know even as we are known" and "they shall all be taught of God."
This is because of the Spirit being poured out on all flesh at Pentecost. The Air aspect of Baptism.
Though Solomon had much wisdom an the Spirit of God it did not manifest to such a level that is now available to mankind.
Bob May wrote:
Hi Nu Lang,
I really love this pic! This one's in color, nice
Thanks for explaining the qualifier Bob. Do you think its that we know God from beginning to end, or rather in God there is seen no beginning or end, whereas in worldly view its beginning/end, cause/effect. I think so, I think in 'worldly mind', explanations are sought in linear fashion which means to the one seeking in such a way...something must begin and something must end. Yet that's just a thought.
For example, one driving in their car sees a person walking along a desert highway. Linear mind...may assume, one its a person who is walking, two the person was born here on earth and thus they will die, and three, that person therefore must be just like them.
A seer/sorcerer may see, one its not a person who is walking, two its birth/death are unknowns, and three, they are not just like them...
Ec 3:11
He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
I want to clarify something. John the Baptist and Solomon had the Spirit of God. They were way beyond men of their time or men having been born up to the time they were born. Jesus said a greater than John was here and he also said a greater than Solomon was here.
There is something more concerning the Spirit available now to those who enter tyhe Kingdom of heaven.
There are many things we can learn from scripture. We may get a revelation concerning a specific scripture and years later learn something more and different from it. This does not mean what we first got was wrong. We just got more out of it because there is more hidden there. And sometimes it speaks to us.
There is no beginning or end in God. Our spirit comes from God and returns to God. John came from God in a different way because it specifically states that, "there was a man who came from God who's name was John." Jesus likewise. Our souls are of the earth. God breathed (Ruach spirit) on the dust of the earth and he became a living soul (Nepesch soul). Later we were given coats of skins (bodies.)
because man goeth to his long home, and the mourners go about the streets:
Ec 12:6
Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
Ec 12:7
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
I think Solomon is pondering this life and it's end. If the dust returns to the ground and the spirit returns to God who gave it, What happens to us?
what is our "long home"?
He is speaking of cycles. The spirit returns to God. The dust returns to the earth.
Ec 1:3
What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh UNDER THE SUN?
Ec 1:9
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and There is no new thing UNDER THE SUN.
Ec 1:14
I have seen all the works that are done UNDER THE SUN; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit
He is speaking about all he has learned about this realm of cycles. Time and space. But pondering what lies beyond.
He knew everytrhing there was to know "under the sun."
I do not believe he is speaking about the physical sun but a level of awareness. The sphere of Tipareth in the Tree of life above is called the sun center and the Christ center.
Above that is the abyss Daath. This Christ center recieves an influx or influence from the supernal triangle. The Godhead.
This is the place or state of awareness that Jesus functioned from as a man here on earth. All of his thoughts, words and actions were revelation from above the abyss. From the Father, Chokmah Wisdom.
Believers are promised that we are growing into him. That "we shall know even as we are known" and "they shall all be taught of God."
This is because of the Spirit being poured out on all flesh at Pentecost. The Air aspect of Baptism.
Though Solomon had much wisdom an the Spirit of God it did not manifest to such a level that is now available to mankind.