05-29-2011, 12:00 AM
watergaze wrote:
However you saying “This too shall pass” makes it seem like one day there will be no sadness, whereas the quotes you posted are just saying there is time for happiness and time for sadness etc, just like there is time for dawn and time for dusk, which does not mean that one day there will be no dawn or no dusk.. I agree with the quotes, there is time for sadness (to weep) and time for happiness (to laugh). Both are valid and natural. So, I wonder how you meant it.
I am not that far to see, but have it from an excellent source that it will not pass very soon (to say the least) .
It passes because of the cycles and it also will pass entirely. It also can be because of problems in life. We all have them.
While we are here beneath a certain level of understanding we must learn to balance the good things with the bad.
My sixteen year old son had a close friend die just a few weeks ago by his own hand. My son had been planning on spending the night at his house that coming weekend. He was actually the last person who had any contact with his friend by text message the day of his death.
How can my son balance that? Why hadn't this boy had someone to talk to that would instill in him the need to balance his sorrow with something better?
We are surrounded by death and life. Choose life. It is as simple as that but it is an effort to put into practice.
Bob May wrote:
In the Qabalah, that abyss is called Daath, (Knowledge)
This is knowledge that is experiential in it's character. Becoming "one with" something as a man and wife become one body during intercourse.
But to cross that abyss is not possible for "Natural Man."
What would you compare this abyss to in CC's teachings? Is it the loss of human forms? In shamanic terms it would be death I guess, how they die and come back again. When reading your posts I often read Daath as Death . This concept you write about is something totally new, I have no knowledge of it, so I am trying to understand it through what I know..
To actually experience something spiritual instead of just reading it or accepting it in theory would be touching on Daath. True experiential knowledge. It has nothing to do with death. It is Revelation. Something of another, higher realm than we ever imagined existed actually touching us. I never knew what it felt like to be a father until I watched my first son being born. Then it was a miracle.
This is an analogy of course, but an appropriate one.
P.S. Bob, some of your posts are hard to read, because you use a similar font color to the overall background of the forum (here it is actually better than in other discussions where the background itself is black, which makes it practically invisible). I need to highlight them to read them, but sometimes you mix this color and that and it is not clear that there is another sentence in a different color following. Sometimes I highlight all your posts, just to be sure I did not miss anything. Kind of inconvenient .
However you saying “This too shall pass” makes it seem like one day there will be no sadness, whereas the quotes you posted are just saying there is time for happiness and time for sadness etc, just like there is time for dawn and time for dusk, which does not mean that one day there will be no dawn or no dusk.. I agree with the quotes, there is time for sadness (to weep) and time for happiness (to laugh). Both are valid and natural. So, I wonder how you meant it.
I am not that far to see, but have it from an excellent source that it will not pass very soon (to say the least) .
It passes because of the cycles and it also will pass entirely. It also can be because of problems in life. We all have them.
While we are here beneath a certain level of understanding we must learn to balance the good things with the bad.
My sixteen year old son had a close friend die just a few weeks ago by his own hand. My son had been planning on spending the night at his house that coming weekend. He was actually the last person who had any contact with his friend by text message the day of his death.
How can my son balance that? Why hadn't this boy had someone to talk to that would instill in him the need to balance his sorrow with something better?
We are surrounded by death and life. Choose life. It is as simple as that but it is an effort to put into practice.
Bob May wrote:
In the Qabalah, that abyss is called Daath, (Knowledge)
This is knowledge that is experiential in it's character. Becoming "one with" something as a man and wife become one body during intercourse.
But to cross that abyss is not possible for "Natural Man."
What would you compare this abyss to in CC's teachings? Is it the loss of human forms? In shamanic terms it would be death I guess, how they die and come back again. When reading your posts I often read Daath as Death . This concept you write about is something totally new, I have no knowledge of it, so I am trying to understand it through what I know..
To actually experience something spiritual instead of just reading it or accepting it in theory would be touching on Daath. True experiential knowledge. It has nothing to do with death. It is Revelation. Something of another, higher realm than we ever imagined existed actually touching us. I never knew what it felt like to be a father until I watched my first son being born. Then it was a miracle.
This is an analogy of course, but an appropriate one.
P.S. Bob, some of your posts are hard to read, because you use a similar font color to the overall background of the forum (here it is actually better than in other discussions where the background itself is black, which makes it practically invisible). I need to highlight them to read them, but sometimes you mix this color and that and it is not clear that there is another sentence in a different color following. Sometimes I highlight all your posts, just to be sure I did not miss anything. Kind of inconvenient .