01-07-2010, 12:00 AM
It makes a lot of sense to me Quantam Shaman, well said.
I saw a kind of vision once of something like the foreign installation, only it was a huge dark shape somewhat like a manta rey shape and the faces of many
people were fixed on it. Maybe it was something like the "mold of the flier" . At the time I hadn't read much Castaneda and didn't know of
the flyer. I thought of it as representing the leviathon, civilization and similar to what you say--a program that has people locked, looking at it while we
head toward a cliff but I don't know what it really is. terrifying
I haven't seen a personal flyer , I can't say whether a being(s) enters the mind but something beyond a mere individual. I have had voices, desires,
thoughts etc that weren't recognizable as mine, which has gotten better as of late since circumstances demanded I start taking note of how at variance my
actions were with who I thought I was, my petty bubble popped and some of the poison out but it hasn't given up trying to re-establish it self yet.
Maybe flier, program, leviathon, devil, etc are different ways of saying/experiencing whatever it is. Not all the voices etc are evil or disturbing, poetry
comes and beautiful images too, those are called angels, inspiration, imagination, tongues, muse...
I do experience the flier/program as being hostile to me and tender life everywhere.
I remember a story told by Buddha: a man with an arrow embedded in him was brought to the surgeon but refused to let him operate until he knew who shot the
arrow, what kind of poison was on it, what type of bow it was etc...the Buddha said the man would die before the arrow was removed if he waited for all the
answers
So not being sure about the answer(s) maybe I can still be cured.
I saw a kind of vision once of something like the foreign installation, only it was a huge dark shape somewhat like a manta rey shape and the faces of many
people were fixed on it. Maybe it was something like the "mold of the flier" . At the time I hadn't read much Castaneda and didn't know of
the flyer. I thought of it as representing the leviathon, civilization and similar to what you say--a program that has people locked, looking at it while we
head toward a cliff but I don't know what it really is. terrifying
I haven't seen a personal flyer , I can't say whether a being(s) enters the mind but something beyond a mere individual. I have had voices, desires,
thoughts etc that weren't recognizable as mine, which has gotten better as of late since circumstances demanded I start taking note of how at variance my
actions were with who I thought I was, my petty bubble popped and some of the poison out but it hasn't given up trying to re-establish it self yet.
Maybe flier, program, leviathon, devil, etc are different ways of saying/experiencing whatever it is. Not all the voices etc are evil or disturbing, poetry
comes and beautiful images too, those are called angels, inspiration, imagination, tongues, muse...
I do experience the flier/program as being hostile to me and tender life everywhere.
I remember a story told by Buddha: a man with an arrow embedded in him was brought to the surgeon but refused to let him operate until he knew who shot the
arrow, what kind of poison was on it, what type of bow it was etc...the Buddha said the man would die before the arrow was removed if he waited for all the
answers
So not being sure about the answer(s) maybe I can still be cured.