06-27-2006, 12:00 AM
Quote:There is a limit to how "accurately" you can model something, and if you want to have a "true model" you must have the phenomena in front of you doing what it does.
Agreed.
Though I'd say we live within the "true model".
As Buddhists would say: "The world is an Enlightened set-up already".
Quote:This comes from the fact that any representation cannot be composed out of the same components as the natural phenomena, or else it would be the natural phenomena it self.
Why couldn't we be able to represent natural phenomena ????
I think that most Siberian tribes ... Altaics included revere The Eagle "as the first Shaman" .... as The Eagle initiates a person into The Greater ... Sacred Reality .... (hence the Eagle is also called "Grandfather" (of Siberian shamanic lineages) ....
Sometimes one just needs an "Empowerment" to realize this .... and being initiated by The Eagle into The Greater/Sacred Reality is referred to as "Shamanic Death Experience".
The Grater/Sacred Reality is experiencing directly The True ... Natural Reality beyond the dual mind created illusions/constructs.
www.venajaseura.com/venaj...50x175.jpg
Agreed.
Though I'd say we live within the "true model".
As Buddhists would say: "The world is an Enlightened set-up already".
Quote:This comes from the fact that any representation cannot be composed out of the same components as the natural phenomena, or else it would be the natural phenomena it self.
Why couldn't we be able to represent natural phenomena ????
I think that most Siberian tribes ... Altaics included revere The Eagle "as the first Shaman" .... as The Eagle initiates a person into The Greater ... Sacred Reality .... (hence the Eagle is also called "Grandfather" (of Siberian shamanic lineages) ....
Sometimes one just needs an "Empowerment" to realize this .... and being initiated by The Eagle into The Greater/Sacred Reality is referred to as "Shamanic Death Experience".
The Grater/Sacred Reality is experiencing directly The True ... Natural Reality beyond the dual mind created illusions/constructs.
www.venajaseura.com/venaj...50x175.jpg