12-22-2017, 12:00 AM
Julio Juliopolis wrote:Le_Regard wrote:
lol I can't believe you think it's as simple as "one is real, the other is not real". Real and fake is moralizing. People act "otherwise than their innermost selves" in the world for a lot of reasons. One of many reasons is because someone else is forcing you to.
Sometimes I'll be in a restaurant and I'll catch the waiters acting a little "too much like waiters", you know? They're faking it, for the tips, obviously? But they actually ARE waiters.
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Oh, the other day at this sandwich shop this college kid was like, GROVELING at me. He thought it was "good customer service" or something, I don't know, but it was driving me crazy. I used to love that place but I can't go back there if the sandwich guy insists on ACTING LIKE a sandwich guy like that.
The examples you give seem to prove my point. Wouldn't you say those over-eager waiters and sandwich artisans are acting fake? Doesn't that seem to describe their behavior more succinctly than saying they are acting "too much from their empirical egos for my taste"? I don't imagine too many people would understand that without further explanation.
It isn't about moralizing either. I'm making no judgements about whether a person chooses to operate from their fake or real self here. This thread is only meant to help those who are trying to find their true selves, by suggesting a means to identify the false self. If someone is happy operating from their false self then I take no issue with them choosing to do so. If they want to connect with their true self, this technique might help them.
I give up then.
lol I can't believe you think it's as simple as "one is real, the other is not real". Real and fake is moralizing. People act "otherwise than their innermost selves" in the world for a lot of reasons. One of many reasons is because someone else is forcing you to.
Sometimes I'll be in a restaurant and I'll catch the waiters acting a little "too much like waiters", you know? They're faking it, for the tips, obviously? But they actually ARE waiters.
...
Oh, the other day at this sandwich shop this college kid was like, GROVELING at me. He thought it was "good customer service" or something, I don't know, but it was driving me crazy. I used to love that place but I can't go back there if the sandwich guy insists on ACTING LIKE a sandwich guy like that.
The examples you give seem to prove my point. Wouldn't you say those over-eager waiters and sandwich artisans are acting fake? Doesn't that seem to describe their behavior more succinctly than saying they are acting "too much from their empirical egos for my taste"? I don't imagine too many people would understand that without further explanation.
It isn't about moralizing either. I'm making no judgements about whether a person chooses to operate from their fake or real self here. This thread is only meant to help those who are trying to find their true selves, by suggesting a means to identify the false self. If someone is happy operating from their false self then I take no issue with them choosing to do so. If they want to connect with their true self, this technique might help them.
I give up then.