07-19-2018, 12:00 AM
Kao, thank you for sharing the above words linked to the topic of the soul. I find it is great if an interested person can read things from different sources/perspectives. It gives the thing more shades and dimensions or flavors than if only one person were to say something. Especially if two quite different people agree on something, it can also show that the thing itself is more objective or has more merit/usefulness/etc than if it were only able to reach a certain type of people. But this is just as a side point 
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--- Empty Space
Kaomea wrote:It's just a matter of holding a space for the self. Like Serloco said many times: build a gourd. The soul will come if there is space for it to fill. One must have room in the mind and the heart for the soul to occupy. If we are already full, the soul must live outside the body. We must empty out some of our mind and heart to make room for the soul. Empty meaning becoming more flexible or fluid in cognition and emotions.
What you say about the inside and outside rings very true in my experience. I think it is one of the basic facts of life. A very important core principle of our reality/lives.
There are two basic approaches, that link to this topic imo, in sorcery / warriorship / getting to know: 1) I know/understand myself because I have come to know/understand others. 2) I know others because I have known myself. Both work.
(Before I respond to this great point that you bring to the forefront here, I would like to just mention a few words of practically oriented caution linked to this empty gourd business hehe. Namely, it is not good to have spaces in us that are empty for longer periods of time. It is not just our soul that could find a place there. Other things try to get in. The shaman suggested to us once that after we have made space it is good to place something there, for example 'river' , instead of leaving it empty. )
Kao, mentioning empty space, you bring a very good point to the forefront here. This seems to be repeated by practitioners that one might need to make space for the returned soul. Taking this into a specific direction, it is not uncommon that a shaman / healer first has to do an extraction healing before they can return the soul. (Extraction is a whole other topic though that too would be great to explore. One of the forms of extraction that one hears about in link to shamanism is when the traditional shamans actually take out tangible physical objects/stuff from the body of the sick.)
---- Vulnerability and Protecting oneself
Kao wrote:when we incorporate the soul or invite it back into us, we are emotionally vulnerable.
Yes, the person who suffers from soul loss is more vulnerable. The process of integration might need some readjusting and that could make us vulnerable and/or less stable too.
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Kao wrote:We must love it for it to stay. We must also acknowledge that we were hostile to ourselves and that is why it fragmented. It doesn't fragment from others. We fragment it by not treating ourselves with kindness and love. Mantras and affirmations can help foster self love and self acceptance. The fragmented soul needs to learn to say fck everyone else. I love the person I am. Imperfections and all.
The fragmented soul benefits from a lot of self-care. Glob it on thick. Do things that make them feel good, higher vibrations type of things.
A good place to start. Not the only things one could try
Great points to mention. Thank you
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Kao wrote:To be blunt, while the soul is healing the attitude should be a protective one. Boundaries need to be upheld to limit access and that may come off as c*nty or a$$hole behavior. BUT! it's important to only allow loving energy in during the wholeness phase. Be an a$$hole. Set limits. Say no to stressful situations. Protect the soul, be its guardian, and it will guide you. If you lose friends over it, who cares. Do what's appropriate for your own well being because only then can you provide the strength necessary to carry others.
I find the topic of healthy boundaries a crucial one for the overall wellbeing of souls in general (not just during the soul retrieval period). I do not think one needs to be so one dimensional, it is not like we can't go outside and live our lives during the process of incorporating a lost part of our soul. But it would be great if overall our sensitivity towards the settings we are in and places we interact would be increased what concernes our well-being. it is good to ask the soul what it needs. Like Kao says: the soul will guide you. During the process of soul recovery and return it is common to ask the soul if there is anything it needs to help the process be successful. And then ofc to check on it now and then if there is anything needed later. it is great to check on the soul like this in general. One should always be protective of this very gentle and sensitive part of themselves. But there is no need to be an a-hole or a c-unt to others in order to achieve it. But if it is needed then sure . But this goes for all life situations. .
One thing that might be useful to point out is that the part of the soul that left might have carried off a part of our pain, trauma, etc. And when it comes back it would be good to not be surprised or discouraged if certain feelings emerge that one had not felt for a while. It really is about accepting oneself. Like Kao says it is "a lesson in caring for the self. Loving all parts of ourselves." Of course, no hard to bear feelings may come at all. Sometimes also memories come back that could be painful or wonderful.
One thing that was quite the epiphany for me back in the day was that a part of our soul can leave during things that are really actually wonderful and nice to feel. For example, it could be that we have a wish / dream to live on an island surrounded by wonderful azure seas... and this is such a strong desire... ofc course in this scenario we live in some slum and barely have the money to go to the next town. In this imaginary scenario a soul part might go off into that dream of the island. To give another example, sometimes we let a part of our soul leave or follow people we admire. It could be even someone we don't properly know but who is famous - like a football star we come to see at the stadium. The shaman once said that people come to the show cause they wanna see their souls. Quite disturbing if you think about it. This is not to say famous people are evil or any such thing. It really is about what happens in our own selves. And to a degree ofc some things are supported by the culture we live in (if by nothing else than by the sheer ignorance about it all).
.--- Empty Space
Kaomea wrote:It's just a matter of holding a space for the self. Like Serloco said many times: build a gourd. The soul will come if there is space for it to fill. One must have room in the mind and the heart for the soul to occupy. If we are already full, the soul must live outside the body. We must empty out some of our mind and heart to make room for the soul. Empty meaning becoming more flexible or fluid in cognition and emotions.
What you say about the inside and outside rings very true in my experience. I think it is one of the basic facts of life. A very important core principle of our reality/lives.
There are two basic approaches, that link to this topic imo, in sorcery / warriorship / getting to know: 1) I know/understand myself because I have come to know/understand others. 2) I know others because I have known myself
. Both work.(Before I respond to this great point that you bring to the forefront here, I would like to just mention a few words of practically oriented caution linked to this empty gourd business hehe. Namely, it is not good to have spaces in us that are empty for longer periods of time. It is not just our soul that could find a place there. Other things try to get in. The shaman suggested to us once that after we have made space it is good to place something there, for example 'river' , instead of leaving it empty. )
Kao, mentioning empty space, you bring a very good point to the forefront here. This seems to be repeated by practitioners that one might need to make space for the returned soul. Taking this into a specific direction, it is not uncommon that a shaman / healer first has to do an extraction healing before they can return the soul. (Extraction is a whole other topic though that too would be great to explore. One of the forms of extraction that one hears about in link to shamanism is when the traditional shamans actually take out tangible physical objects/stuff from the body of the sick.)
---- Vulnerability and Protecting oneself
Kao wrote:when we incorporate the soul or invite it back into us, we are emotionally vulnerable.
Yes, the person who suffers from soul loss is more vulnerable. The process of integration might need some readjusting and that could make us vulnerable and/or less stable too.
.
Kao wrote:We must love it for it to stay. We must also acknowledge that we were hostile to ourselves and that is why it fragmented. It doesn't fragment from others. We fragment it by not treating ourselves with kindness and love. Mantras and affirmations can help foster self love and self acceptance. The fragmented soul needs to learn to say fck everyone else. I love the person I am. Imperfections and all.
The fragmented soul benefits from a lot of self-care. Glob it on thick. Do things that make them feel good, higher vibrations type of things.
A good place to start. Not the only things one could try
Great points to mention. Thank you
.
Kao wrote:To be blunt, while the soul is healing the attitude should be a protective one. Boundaries need to be upheld to limit access and that may come off as c*nty or a$$hole behavior. BUT! it's important to only allow loving energy in during the wholeness phase. Be an a$$hole. Set limits. Say no to stressful situations. Protect the soul, be its guardian, and it will guide you. If you lose friends over it, who cares. Do what's appropriate for your own well being because only then can you provide the strength necessary to carry others.
I find the topic of healthy boundaries a crucial one for the overall wellbeing of souls in general (not just during the soul retrieval period). I do not think one needs to be so one dimensional, it is not like we can't go outside and live our lives during the process of incorporating a lost part of our soul. But it would be great if overall our sensitivity towards the settings we are in and places we interact would be increased what concernes our well-being. it is good to ask the soul what it needs. Like Kao says: the soul will guide you. During the process of soul recovery and return it is common to ask the soul if there is anything it needs to help the process be successful. And then ofc to check on it now and then if there is anything needed later. it is great to check on the soul like this in general
. One should always be protective of this very gentle and sensitive part of themselves. But there is no need to be an a-hole or a c-unt to others in order to achieve it. But if it is needed then sure . But this goes for all life situations. . One thing that might be useful to point out is that the part of the soul that left might have carried off a part of our pain, trauma, etc. And when it comes back it would be good to not be surprised or discouraged if certain feelings emerge that one had not felt for a while. It really is about accepting oneself. Like Kao says it is "a lesson in caring for the self. Loving all parts of ourselves." Of course, no hard to bear feelings may come at all
. Sometimes also memories come back that could be painful or wonderful. One thing that was quite the epiphany for me back in the day was that a part of our soul can leave during things that are really actually wonderful and nice to feel. For example, it could be that we have a wish / dream to live on an island surrounded by wonderful azure seas... and this is such a strong desire... ofc course in this scenario we live in some slum and barely have the money to go to the next town. In this imaginary scenario a soul part might go off into that dream of the island. To give another example, sometimes we let a part of our soul leave or follow people we admire. It could be even someone we don't properly know but who is famous - like a football star we come to see at the stadium. The shaman once said that people come to the show cause they wanna see their souls. Quite disturbing if you think about it. This is not to say famous people are evil or any such thing. It really is about what happens in our own selves. And to a degree ofc some things are supported by the culture we live in (if by nothing else than by the sheer ignorance about it all).