07-19-2018, 12:00 AM
Kao wrote:The nice thing about having a fragmented soul is that when it's healed/united the result is stronger than a person who hasn't had a fragmented soul.
This links to the self-healed healer thingy
. Imo one does not have to be broken first in order to be whole, fluid, healthy, etc. But in order to have the strength required and to understand what is going on and in that way to be able to help others, it is probably crucial. Maybe such a person is indeed always stronger than a person who did not go through such experiences - however let us not glorify this (saying this just in case someone reading this might have these urges) because it might be that in order to make it past the eagle (so to speak) one might not need that necessarily in their life. I have come to understand that it is best to always only ask for what one needs. Everything else is unecessary. Of course, I think it might be impossible to find anyone in this lifetime who has not had some kind of wound, hardship, trauma, etc experience during their lives. But just saying, in theory, it is imo best not to wish to be fragmeneted just so one can heal. Somewhow our culture has this idea that things need to be hard and that there needs to be a lot of suffering and that is imo a load of **** that we are injected with when we are helpless and cannot defend against this BS principle. It then shapes our experiences and our lives and creates a lot of sorrow/hardship in lives. And then others look at it and even glorify it. Best to be rid of these prinsicples behind glorifed martyrdom.
So, yea, totally agree here:
Kao wrote:The birth of a new person rises from such fire. Not a process to deliberately engage, but when thrown into it...make the most of it?
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Kao wrote:It's what I do. I'm a little addicted to the destructive cycle of rebirthing myself.
This makes a lot of sense hehe. I find that if this is your path that leads to growth and learning then it is amazing.
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Kao wrote:This is why the process and experiences related to fragmented souls is so personal. It's often painful emotions to overcome and so it's expected to be shared with those we trust.
Indeed, this is true of any spiritual or deeply emotional experience. What you write, Kao, is common sense and it surely should be said. It links again to boundaries. Some people don't have them in strangely vulnerable places. Sharing something that one should not or is not ready to share is usually not a good thing.
It is not the case though that a wonderful and helpful sharing cannot occur between strangers or outside of the "people who love and hold a space for that sharing". As they say, those that are least lovable need love most. After one has processed these experiences and they are no longer wounds or scars left behind then, once one has crossed a certain threshold, one can share. And of course it is best to share in this style when one has omens from Spirit to do so. The world is then a magical place.
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Kao wrote:Asking someone how they learned of their soul or their experiences with having a fragmented soul is not the same thing as asking someone what time it is or what what flavor leopard they enjoy.
I'd say use your common sense! In my language it is called "healthy sense", cause sadly it is not always as common as one might like.
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Kao wrote:I don't just ask people about their life trauma in the middle of a business meeting. There's a time and place. I also would only ask people I'm close to or responsible for.
Again, use your common/healthy sense. In normal life situations, I rarely breach the subject until a person themselves decides to speak on the topic - kinda like Kao did here in the thread. If someone starts talking about it without you asking them to or addressing them specifically it means they either want/have things to say on the subject or for other reasons would benefit from putting their attention in this direction. Still, it is always the case that one needs to be very sensitive about this topic and anything that touches on the soul.
And, yes, be sensitive to others. Howgh!
This links to the self-healed healer thingy
. Imo one does not have to be broken first in order to be whole, fluid, healthy, etc. But in order to have the strength required and to understand what is going on and in that way to be able to help others, it is probably crucial. Maybe such a person is indeed always stronger than a person who did not go through such experiences - however let us not glorify this (saying this just in case someone reading this might have these urges) because it might be that in order to make it past the eagle (so to speak) one might not need that necessarily in their life. I have come to understand that it is best to always only ask for what one needs. Everything else is unecessary. Of course, I think it might be impossible to find anyone in this lifetime who has not had some kind of wound, hardship, trauma, etc experience during their lives. But just saying, in theory, it is imo best not to wish to be fragmeneted just so one can heal. Somewhow our culture has this idea that things need to be hard and that there needs to be a lot of suffering and that is imo a load of **** that we are injected with when we are helpless and cannot defend against this BS principle. It then shapes our experiences and our lives and creates a lot of sorrow/hardship in lives. And then others look at it and even glorify it. Best to be rid of these prinsicples behind glorifed martyrdom. So, yea, totally agree here:
Kao wrote:The birth of a new person rises from such fire. Not a process to deliberately engage, but when thrown into it...make the most of it?
.
Kao wrote:It's what I do. I'm a little addicted to the destructive cycle of rebirthing myself.
This makes a lot of sense hehe. I find that if this is your path that leads to growth and learning then it is amazing.
.
Kao wrote:This is why the process and experiences related to fragmented souls is so personal. It's often painful emotions to overcome and so it's expected to be shared with those we trust.
Indeed, this is true of any spiritual or deeply emotional experience. What you write, Kao, is common sense and it surely should be said. It links again to boundaries. Some people don't have them in strangely vulnerable places. Sharing something that one should not or is not ready to share is usually not a good thing.
It is not the case though that a wonderful and helpful sharing cannot occur between strangers or outside of the "people who love and hold a space for that sharing". As they say, those that are least lovable need love most. After one has processed these experiences and they are no longer wounds or scars left behind then, once one has crossed a certain threshold, one can share. And of course it is best to share in this style when one has omens from Spirit to do so. The world is then a magical place.
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Kao wrote:Asking someone how they learned of their soul or their experiences with having a fragmented soul is not the same thing as asking someone what time it is or what what flavor leopard they enjoy.
I'd say use your common sense! In my language it is called "healthy sense", cause sadly it is not always as common as one might like
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Kao wrote:I don't just ask people about their life trauma in the middle of a business meeting. There's a time and place. I also would only ask people I'm close to or responsible for.
Again, use your common/healthy sense. In normal life situations, I rarely breach the subject until a person themselves decides to speak on the topic - kinda like Kao did here in the thread
. If someone starts talking about it without you asking them to or addressing them specifically it means they either want/have things to say on the subject or for other reasons would benefit from putting their attention in this direction. Still, it is always the case that one needs to be very sensitive about this topic and anything that touches on the soul. And, yes, be sensitive to others
. Howgh!