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Thunderbeings
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Watergaze,

Sometimes my grouping of concepts can seem confusing, I agree.  Though like most mysteries if enough time is spent gazing, understanding is possible.  A and M are connected, but it does look confusing if one misses the 11 letters that come between them.  

What the author spoke on regarding kindness and opposition may be a bit shifted from what I commented on.  Generally, authors can be received in many ways, conventionally and unconventionally, and the eyes of the reader play an important role.  I suppose I could've rehashed the intent of the author for further dissection but you covered much of that yourself.  Instead of that, I was developing a different branch to flush out the idea-tree you offered.  

Lol and yes, the act of questioning can sometimes not be appreciated.  How others receive us in a complex interplay of communication.  You may believe all you're doing is observing and questioning and in a very simplistic form that is true.  Yet, there is a difference of intent and personality also plays a part.  In text, "Pixie what are you doing?!" can mean a variety of things dependent upon who is saying it and what they are commenting on (context).  A question is not only a question.  A question is a melting pot of intent, personality, context, and intelligence (and probably more factors).  Hoping that others understand us well enough to know that we're not being hormonal or passive aggressive is a very high expectation.  People are many personalities throughout the day.  Did we eat breakfast, have our coffee, meet an annoying personality on the subway, listen to uplifting music, receive supportive feedback from superiors?  A question is not only a question but a form of complex communication.  

I agree with what you said, that it's not the aim one gets destroyed so the other can be alone.  Yet sometimes tearing is necessary.  It's not "nice", but for some, it's preferred and the only thing that will work.  Kris is a fine example of this method.  He uses it on others because it's what worked for him.  That method isn't your preference and thus you don't use it.  I'm a mixed-plate and enjoy receiving and giving in all sorts of combinations.  Methods should be dependent upon the personality receiving assistance.  Unless one-size approaches work for everyone... but I'm highly suspicious of those because I've met numerous deviants who don't fit one-sized applications.

When it comes to seeing holes in the awareness of others, you may not intend to be a catalyst for anyone, but your mere existence serves as one.  You can either be aware of your impact or pretend you don't have one.  But.  You have one and your impact will be determined by the others who are perceiving and experiencing your specific AP.  Understanding your impact, even if you don't intend to have one, can help limit miscommunication.  Again, you don't know too little to make decisions regarding how your awareness can be utilized.  You govern over a website that is based on magic--you of all people should have some self-awareness regarding how you want to have an impact.  Haven't you already made that decision?  Look at the impact you've had--if all of this had been unintended, imagine what you could with intent.

My hate comments are intended in the context that sometimes helping people requires tearing off portions of their ego that people aren't ready to let go of.  Kris was famous for this Big Grin it's not the most tactful method, but it's efficient.  People are hated when they use this method because it stings.  It's like ripping off a band-aid.  I appreciate a good dose of pain, so I'm not very hateful.  Others though, the people who refuse to use that form of efficiency... well.... they tend to be the more hateful folk.  

You come from the school of thought that decisions are best left to Spirit.  Not a person.  That's a troublesome position because people are capable of accessing Spirit.  Spirit speaks through nature, synchronicity, and the challenges that repeat until we learn the lesson they offer for our Spirit.  If we ignore the omens and rely on Spirit to be the actor or instigator, then we become a pawn in our own lives.  At what point do we take an active role in our own lives and in those we care for?  If we have the power to benefit others should we sit back and let Spirit decide their fate?  Like if we see a biker get into a car accident, do we walk away from that entanglement and let Spirit sort the corpses?  Or do we run over and apply pressure to bloody surfaces and speak to the person until Emergency Medical Services arrive?  You seem like the type with a big heart who would intervene between others and Spirit.

To clarify because you asked... lol... language can certainly be imprecise: the tonal meaning physical manifestation of self (the physical body and physical reality aka matter).  Ego meaning awareness (or lack of awareness aka non-matter).  What I meant was when people tear down the tonal (which sure, can sometimes mean ego too) the person responsible for that progression can be hated.  Killing the ego can kill the tonal if someone has too much ego (disconnection with Spirit).  The tonal can die if it doesn't have enough Spirit to fall back on--reflecting the idea that it's good not to have all eggs in one basket.  

What I want to do is complicated xP Sometimes killing the ego frees the Spirit within a person so yeah, sometimes I want to kill ego.  I never said I wanted to destroy the tonal to aid the spiritual.  I said sometimes it's necessary to destroy the tonal to aid the spiritual.  Ideally, I don't think I would ever deem it necessary to destroy an entire tonal (aka murder).  I'm not that much of an extremist.  There have been sketchy situations where I've stripped a lot of the tonal away from an individual or two.... and those were incredibly messy situations.  Ones that were even a bit too close for comfort for even myself... but those situations orchestrated themselves (Spirit was at fault).  

I hope that clarifies?  I can clarify further because it feels like I didn't do a great job identifying the source of confusion.  Not sure, I'll see what you say lol.

Ideally killing of the ego should serve the tonal and spiritual, I agree with your conclusion.  Ego is a form of mental construct and yes, it's abstract as it's not matter.  I view ego as an unevolved form of self-importance.  Self-importance is necessary as it allows self-care to take center stage.  Definitely an interesting shift.

Your thoughts on hijacking peoples paths are interesting.  You say you won't hijack paths, but your mere presence (the presence of anyone) has the potential to hijack paths.  Easy scenario: I walk into a banquet hall with my wife--there are other men around who are more dashing in their suits, obviously have more money, and I'm petty.  All those men just hijacked my path (for the moment).  Or I walk into an insane asylum and pretend to be the only sane person present; this is hijacking.  Or I'm a fitness model and walk into a weight watchers clinic; I'm hijacking.  Or I'm an esteemed writer going to a writing course for beginners; I'm hijacking (unles I'm the teacher).  We hijack paths so frequently that we can either be aware of ourselves and the potential impact and make adjustments for those--or we can ignore ourselves and expect Spirit to save the life of a bloody cyclist.  Even when we are positive and share acts of kindness can we hijack someones path.  Your love for everyone has hijacked my path.  So whether or not you care to admit it--you're a path hijacker.

You mention not wanting to hurt people but damn it, you're going to learn something right now.  When you are kind to mean people, KINDNESS can hurt them.  Kindness gives mean people hope and hope is one of the most dangerous things to give a person.  So--if you don't want to hurt mean people then you have to be mean to them, but that would be mean toward your Spirit.  So what are you gonna do eh?  I'll tell you what I would do.  I would be kind to a mean person, violate their tonal and tear down that ego, and serve their spirit.  xP  In all fairness I've also been mean to a mean person because my spirit flows both ways and sometimes I prefer to be self-serving.  Depends on whether I've had coffee.  Just because you think kindness doesn't hurt, doesn't mean it can't be a weapon to disarm even the darkest of people.  You wouldn't believe the number of cranky old men who've wept uncontrollably because someone loved them unconditionally; usually, these scenarios have involved young children giving them hugs.

Thunderbeings can be laid out meaning the teacher is always impacted by the students.  Gods and God-like-beings are always impacted by those they govern.  Sometimes even the almighty gets laid out by the insignificant beings.  It is nice to be laid out on occasion...it means something surprised someone.  

I enjoyed what you said about the elements.  One thing to note, while lightning may not be as big a death dealer as the other elements overall--keep in mind in Colorado we have a higher rate of death by lightning strikes than other locations.  I'm not nerdy enough to understand why that is, but if I'm guessing it has something to do with being higher in elevation.  "Eagles may soar in the clouds, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines" (can't remember the author).  So location-based features may play a significant factor in the possibility of death regarding the elements.  While lightning may not be high-risk for you, I sure as hell won't go for a hike in Colorado during a storm.  I don't worry about fires in Hawaii, but I do in California.  Elemental death rates aren't quite as simple as you make them appear lol.

What you said about love is enjoyable.  Sure, envy can be looped into hate and anger, but envy is often sourced from feelings of hate and anger (just like the other emotions like jealousy, ire, malice).  

I would definitely agree with you in that every AP has a type of blindness involved.  It's why I love to play host to thousands of APs..... Smile  I don't like being blind.  I've found blindness to be divisive so the more the merrier.  

Being annoyed is different than being angry or hateful (at least for me).  Like I'm terribly annoyed with ignorance.  I don't hate ignorant people because I can't control them.  I can control myself, so I can hate myself.  Annoyance doesn't have to lead to anger either (though it can).  I view anger as very similar to hate--it's a passionate dislike.  So maybe the easiest way to explain this is I view hate on the far right and annoyance on the far left...but they both share the same spectrum.  So they're similar, but each is a difference of intensity.  I try to avoid anger/hate because chaos often unfolds when I reach those extremes....so I try to be proactive in my self-care by taking breaks when I notice cracks in my awareness.  Distancing myself from stressful situations allows me to rebalance; it's why I always have breaks in my presence at Sorcery and if I'm persuaded not to take breaks--chaos unfolds for this reason.  I WISH people would remind me to take breaks for self-care purposes lol.  Like, "GO AWAY, PIXIE, SO YOU'LL STOP BEING A MASSIVE B*TCH TO EVERYONE."  I would be like, "Well sh*t you're absolutely right I am being bitchy and would benefit from a self-care break.  THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING MY MENTAL WELLNESS!"  Seriously.  I wish this were a thing people did with one another.
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