08-06-2017, 12:00 AM
afterthoughts:
Often the most caring person is the one who needs to stop and not go express that care. For those who are naturally uncaring, they can express their care and do less damage
. Caring can be linked to self-importance. One needs to eradicate that link. Weird how that is. Me, I am a caring person and I am learning how to hold back and let others figure stuff for themselves. I am much better at it now, it seems even natural to me now. But my heart fights for people even if outwardly I get this erm cooler thing. It is not yet very well done because I am still pushed a bit further off center/balance in this. Sometimes I get a not nice uncaring thing on the surface of me, it has a weird taste and I dont like it. It appeared because caring too much I had to push further into uncaring and balancing takes time. I always notice it and it is foreign to me and a bit bent. So at least I know it's there and not to act on it.
There are more sides of this to I guess everyone. A part that is the heart that is caring and a part that is who knows what that is 'ruthless' or like what has that gotta do with me? or whatever else it is that does it that silences the heart
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Pixie wrote: Yet sometimes tearing is necessary. It's not "nice", but for some, it's preferred and the only thing that will work.
I wrote:I know that sometimes tearing is necessary. I am not against tearing in those cases.
to the tearing. Yes, when it is necessary and by those who know what they are doing. Like if you need your appendix cut out you don't want whoever to cut you open, you want an experienced surgeon. If you have a choice
. And in little things like say wounds from our past and such we do have a choice usually since it's not a matter of a next moment's life and death.
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Pixie wrote:I'm a mixed-plate and enjoy receiving and giving in all sorts of combinations. Methods should be dependent upon the personality receiving assistance. Unless one-size approaches work for everyone... but I'm highly suspicious of those because I've met numerous deviants who don't fit one-sized applications.
I wrote:I agree that methods should be dependent on what the receiver needs. Though also on what the giver is comfortable with.
Different people need different things... and one method works better on one person than on another. This is why there are so many different people and these people can stumble upon those who can provide the needed method. It is great to be versatile and have a big toolbox, but no one can be everything to everyone, can they?. It is fine enough to be good at a couple of things and provide those to the world where these are needed. It is not good though to provide them to everyone by default just cause one can - tear everyone or pamper everyone etc.
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I wrote:From what I saw the hate comes from those who the person tries to impact or 'help'. I do not mind pain of my own, but I mind the ego/self-importance in the person trying to 'help'. I mind they think they know what is best for me and what I need and that they think they are the ones who need to give it to me. I like my own choices and I choose people or circumstances that educate me and give me also pain. I can stand that to a degree that is surprising. I don't need some idiots coming by and swearing and abusing me to push me they don't even know where. And that is the problem... they really do not have control of what is happening. They are not able to cushion when needed and they are not able to maneuver properly. All they do is poke here and there to inflict some pain or bent responsiveness.
of course being led by Spirit means that if the Spirit leads you into a situation with such a person (as I say I do not like) that one stays. For this, of course, one needs to be aware of it (I have been at some points of my life). And these people have their uses too.
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Anger and Hate:
To give a comparison. When a person is sad they often cry. In this example anger is the tears and hate is the sadness. One can be sad and not cry. One can cry out of say laughter too. In this sense anger can happen without hate. But hate often uses anger as an expression.
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Enjoyable talks, thnx. Thank you also for your thoughts and thank you also for explaining things I didn't understand.
Often the most caring person is the one who needs to stop and not go express that care. For those who are naturally uncaring, they can express their care and do less damage
. Caring can be linked to self-importance. One needs to eradicate that link. Weird how that is. Me, I am a caring person and I am learning how to hold back and let others figure stuff for themselves. I am much better at it now, it seems even natural to me now. But my heart fights for people even if outwardly I get this erm cooler thing. It is not yet very well done because I am still pushed a bit further off center/balance in this. Sometimes I get a not nice uncaring thing on the surface of me, it has a weird taste and I dont like it. It appeared because caring too much I had to push further into uncaring and balancing takes time. I always notice it and it is foreign to me and a bit bent. So at least I know it's there and not to act on it. There are more sides of this to I guess everyone. A part that is the heart that is caring and a part that is who knows what that is 'ruthless' or like what has that gotta do with me? or whatever else it is that does it that silences the heart
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Pixie wrote: Yet sometimes tearing is necessary. It's not "nice", but for some, it's preferred and the only thing that will work.
I wrote:I know that sometimes tearing is necessary. I am not against tearing in those cases.
to the tearing. Yes, when it is necessary and by those who know what they are doing. Like if you need your appendix cut out you don't want whoever to cut you open, you want an experienced surgeon. If you have a choice
. And in little things like say wounds from our past and such we do have a choice usually since it's not a matter of a next moment's life and death.------------
Pixie wrote:I'm a mixed-plate and enjoy receiving and giving in all sorts of combinations. Methods should be dependent upon the personality receiving assistance. Unless one-size approaches work for everyone... but I'm highly suspicious of those because I've met numerous deviants who don't fit one-sized applications.
I wrote:I agree that methods should be dependent on what the receiver needs. Though also on what the giver is comfortable with.
Different people need different things... and one method works better on one person than on another. This is why there are so many different people and these people can stumble upon those who can provide the needed method. It is great to be versatile and have a big toolbox, but no one can be everything to everyone, can they?
. It is fine enough to be good at a couple of things and provide those to the world where these are needed. It is not good though to provide them to everyone by default just cause one can - tear everyone or pamper everyone etc.------------------------
I wrote:From what I saw the hate comes from those who the person tries to impact or 'help'. I do not mind pain of my own, but I mind the ego/self-importance in the person trying to 'help'. I mind they think they know what is best for me and what I need and that they think they are the ones who need to give it to me. I like my own choices and I choose people or circumstances that educate me and give me also pain. I can stand that to a degree that is surprising. I don't need some idiots coming by and swearing and abusing me to push me they don't even know where. And that is the problem... they really do not have control of what is happening. They are not able to cushion when needed and they are not able to maneuver properly. All they do is poke here and there to inflict some pain or bent responsiveness.
of course being led by Spirit means that if the Spirit leads you into a situation with such a person (as I say I do not like) that one stays. For this, of course, one needs to be aware of it (I have been at some points of my life). And these people have their uses too
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Anger and Hate:
To give a comparison. When a person is sad they often cry. In this example anger is the tears and hate is the sadness. One can be sad and not cry. One can cry out of say laughter too. In this sense anger can happen without hate. But hate often uses anger as an expression.
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Enjoyable talks, thnx. Thank you also for your thoughts and thank you also for explaining things I didn't understand.