08-12-2017, 12:00 AM
Caring can be linked to self-importance. One needs to eradicate that link. Weird how that is.
It appeared because caring too much I had to push further into uncaring and balancing takes time. I always notice it and it is foreign to me and a bit bent. So at least I know it's there and not to act on it.
Yeah. That's normal though, isn't it? I mean, if you're a bus driver and a passenger boards your bus and graffitis your window, yeah, that will anger you. You put in a lot of care and energy into making your bus an extension of you
Should you care about your bus less? Maybe not. That bend may not necessarily be something for you to fix or want to fix.
Caring about your bus may be something you don't want to eradicate. Your bus may serve as a bridge between two worlds for many people. If your bus in part of an elaborate system to transport spirits, maybe you caring is essential to survival for many people. This goes back to the discussion of whether or not self-importance can be functional. If it can be a function expression then there's a place for self-importance. Self-importance can be a means to an end.
There are more sides of this to I guess everyone. A part that is the heart that is caring and a part that is who knows what that is 'ruthless' or like what has that gotta do with me? or whatever else it is that does it that silences the heart
I view the notion of ruthlessness the same as I view fairness. Fair will not always be equal. How I treat one person will not be how I treat everyone. That's because people have different needs. The degree of ruthlessness and fairness will be expressed differently because some people are so much of an a**hole that they will receive a very rude awakening in the form of a spiritual shove. For others with a very soft heart, I might just give them a soft tap because that may be powerful enough to knock them over and I want to be careful. The point is I'll never treat everyone the same because everyone is different.
to the tearing. Yes, when it is necessary and by those who know what they are doing. Like if you need your appendix cut out you don't want whoever to cut you open, you want an experienced surgeon. If you have a choice
. And in little things like say wounds from our past and such we do have a choice usually since it's not a matter of a next moment's life and death.
This is very true If we are to be sliced and diced it's preferable to be crafted by a person with experience and skill. Sadly, many of the internet personalities we have easy access to aren't very skilled. For those self-proclaimed healers: if the goal is wellness, are their clients' healing? I don't even need to observe the clients to know the quality of healing provided; I just need enough time to observe the healer him/herself.
Skilled healers will draw connections for their clients. The perception will be growth-oriented and over time the client will become stronger and more independent. People often confuse being a healer with being nice and that's not always the case. When healers chisel at their clients, they do so with the intent to craft a stronger and agiler awareness. Independence is preferred over dependence because if a person is independent all they require is themselves. Dependence is dangerous because why force someone to be dependent on a particular person or concept? It's a source of weakness to encourage dependence. Like a backdoor virus (for those who hack machines, but this applies to people).
That's the fun (or danger?) of running around these circles. The cult mentality is real. Anyone who is selling themselves or an idea as the only route to anywhere is laughable. So yeah, pick skilled leaders who encourage independence and strength. If we're trying to be skilled healers, it's probably important to make people strong enough to leave us because the goal is independence and if we're truly doing well by our people, they will never leave us. I suppose if we're also successful cult leaders it's easy to say people will never leave us either lol. Though you can tell the difference between cult leaders and healers. One pushes fear, division, and isolation and the other pushes independent thought and support for expanding alternative knowledge bases.
The healer/leader will push for the advancement of ideas and furthering education. The cult/leader will attempt to limit paths to freedom that require their assistance to reach.
Different people need different things... and one method works better on one person than on another. This is why there are so many different people and these people can stumble upon those who can provide the needed method. It is great to be versatile and have a big toolbox, but no one can be everything to everyone, can they?. It is fine enough to be good at a couple of things and provide those to the world where these are needed. It is not good though to provide them to everyone by default just cause one can - tear everyone or pamper everyone etc.
you are good example of a healer/leader. It's why I ride your bus. It's been a bit since I've seen a bus worth riding. I wonder what other reasons there are for my attraction to your bus. I wonder if I could put an image to this concept of Watergaze's bus... I bet I could. I could photoshop the concept. That would be colorful imagery xD
of course being led by Spirit means that if the Spirit leads you into a situation with such a person (as I say I do not like) that one stays. For this, of course, one needs to be aware of it (I have been at some points of my life). And these people have their uses too.
Oh, everyone has their role to play and a way to be useful for growth Certainly, I wholeheartedly agree.
In this sense anger can happen without hate. But hate often uses anger as an expression.
Yep, I agree. I've never seen hate occur without anger, but I also believe anything is possible so . . .
I mean, I once thought telepathy (introduced via shared dreaming) was impossible and then magic struck me down and smited my rigid beliefs. Ever since then I realized that there's a whole lot of **** that is "magical"--rather, possible. Not all of it can be explained or understood with my limited cognitive abilities; but god damn has it been one incredible journey into the rabbit hole. All that I've considered magic was merely the manipulation of energy. Quantum physics says that the potential is available for "magic" to occur (magic being the manipulation of energy in previously unknown ways). Magic is a science. Magic is just not understood in a way that we can reliably manifest I find it very special that magic exists and if we tweak ourselves in just the right way--we can make the impossible possible.
Magic is a lot like love.
I've found our discussions enjoyable too. I've always been a fan of open minded intellectuals.
It appeared because caring too much I had to push further into uncaring and balancing takes time. I always notice it and it is foreign to me and a bit bent. So at least I know it's there and not to act on it.
Yeah. That's normal though, isn't it? I mean, if you're a bus driver and a passenger boards your bus and graffitis your window, yeah, that will anger you. You put in a lot of care and energy into making your bus an extension of you
Should you care about your bus less? Maybe not. That bend may not necessarily be something for you to fix or want to fix. Caring about your bus may be something you don't want to eradicate. Your bus may serve as a bridge between two worlds for many people. If your bus in part of an elaborate system to transport spirits, maybe you caring is essential to survival for many people. This goes back to the discussion of whether or not self-importance can be functional. If it can be a function expression then there's a place for self-importance. Self-importance can be a means to an end.
There are more sides of this to I guess everyone. A part that is the heart that is caring and a part that is who knows what that is 'ruthless' or like what has that gotta do with me? or whatever else it is that does it that silences the heart
I view the notion of ruthlessness the same as I view fairness. Fair will not always be equal. How I treat one person will not be how I treat everyone. That's because people have different needs. The degree of ruthlessness and fairness will be expressed differently because some people are so much of an a**hole that they will receive a very rude awakening in the form of a spiritual shove. For others with a very soft heart, I might just give them a soft tap because that may be powerful enough to knock them over and I want to be careful. The point is I'll never treat everyone the same because everyone is different.
to the tearing. Yes, when it is necessary and by those who know what they are doing. Like if you need your appendix cut out you don't want whoever to cut you open, you want an experienced surgeon. If you have a choice
. And in little things like say wounds from our past and such we do have a choice usually since it's not a matter of a next moment's life and death.This is very true
If we are to be sliced and diced it's preferable to be crafted by a person with experience and skill. Sadly, many of the internet personalities we have easy access to aren't very skilled. For those self-proclaimed healers: if the goal is wellness, are their clients' healing? I don't even need to observe the clients to know the quality of healing provided; I just need enough time to observe the healer him/herself. Skilled healers will draw connections for their clients. The perception will be growth-oriented and over time the client will become stronger and more independent. People often confuse being a healer with being nice and that's not always the case. When healers chisel at their clients, they do so with the intent to craft a stronger and agiler awareness. Independence is preferred over dependence because if a person is independent all they require is themselves. Dependence is dangerous because why force someone to be dependent on a particular person or concept? It's a source of weakness to encourage dependence. Like a backdoor virus (for those who hack machines, but this applies to people).
That's the fun (or danger?) of running around these circles. The cult mentality is real. Anyone who is selling themselves or an idea as the only route to anywhere is laughable. So yeah, pick skilled leaders who encourage independence and strength. If we're trying to be skilled healers, it's probably important to make people strong enough to leave us because the goal is independence and if we're truly doing well by our people, they will never leave us. I suppose if we're also successful cult leaders it's easy to say people will never leave us either lol. Though you can tell the difference between cult leaders and healers. One pushes fear, division, and isolation and the other pushes independent thought and support for expanding alternative knowledge bases.
The healer/leader will push for the advancement of ideas and furthering education. The cult/leader will attempt to limit paths to freedom that require their assistance to reach.
Different people need different things... and one method works better on one person than on another. This is why there are so many different people and these people can stumble upon those who can provide the needed method. It is great to be versatile and have a big toolbox, but no one can be everything to everyone, can they?
. It is fine enough to be good at a couple of things and provide those to the world where these are needed. It is not good though to provide them to everyone by default just cause one can - tear everyone or pamper everyone etc. you are good example of a healer/leader. It's why I ride your bus. It's been a bit since I've seen a bus worth riding. I wonder what other reasons there are for my attraction to your bus. I wonder if I could put an image to this concept of Watergaze's bus... I bet I could. I could photoshop the concept. That would be colorful imagery xD of course being led by Spirit means that if the Spirit leads you into a situation with such a person (as I say I do not like) that one stays. For this, of course, one needs to be aware of it (I have been at some points of my life). And these people have their uses too
.Oh, everyone has their role to play and a way to be useful for growth
Certainly, I wholeheartedly agree. In this sense anger can happen without hate. But hate often uses anger as an expression.
Yep, I agree. I've never seen hate occur without anger, but I also believe anything is possible so . . .
I mean, I once thought telepathy (introduced via shared dreaming) was impossible and then magic struck me down and smited my rigid beliefs. Ever since then I realized that there's a whole lot of **** that is "magical"--rather, possible. Not all of it can be explained or understood with my limited cognitive abilities; but god damn has it been one incredible journey into the rabbit hole. All that I've considered magic was merely the manipulation of energy. Quantum physics says that the potential is available for "magic" to occur (magic being the manipulation of energy in previously unknown ways). Magic is a science. Magic is just not understood in a way that we can reliably manifest
I find it very special that magic exists and if we tweak ourselves in just the right way--we can make the impossible possible.Magic is a lot like love.
I've found our discussions enjoyable too. I've always been a fan of open minded intellectuals.