08-20-2006, 12:00 AM
From NAGUAL "Signs and Manifestations" ... Quote:Eilias 123:
that night i even had a dream that shed light on his situation. in the dream the character (which i am assuming is my new friend)would lock himself in artight glass rooms. where he would expose himself to a gigantic dinner table sized red light. the red light would give him euphoric insights into things and visions. i noticed a negative effect: every time he left the glass room over an hour interval he seemed more detached from the world. it seemed like his energy was draining. i had a thought that if he kept up his addiction with the red light room that it would kill him.
i also was tempted to spend time in the red light room. because i wanted to experience the effects for myself. i tried to go in one room but my brother intervened. he told me that if i locked myself in that red light room that there was nothing he could do for me because i would be forever lost like my friend.
Lone Wolf:
Your friend sounds like he has made contact with allies and may have entered into an arrangement or pact. They can manifest under such circumstances into a dreamers world.
If this is true he will need break the pack through stalking of his dreaming.
Now Eilias, I probably would not have believed your story, had not something similar happened to me, and curiously Lone Wolf, your response to Eilias'es post was the same as my first thought ... Allies !
"The ally" presence came into my "awake-dreaming" during the last "Spin".
The ally's red eyes were glowing ... I tell you it gave me the TOTAL creeps !
But for some unknown reason ... (to me and for Poutnik) ... Poutnik's double intervened and warned me about it ... before and after the incident guiding me out of it.
This is the reason why I wanted to leave after the first "Spin" ... I didn't want to get into any "Ally-Power" stuff of the "below-below world".... and this is why I called Poutnik my "Guardian Angel" ...
Now I do not know about allies, I just have got these hunches and feelings about it & I think, that in the Sami-blog I read, it said that besides there being "The Below World" ... which is the world of Ancestors, Totems, The Dead etc. (which is a good world really) ...there is a world below that & it is a bad one, you don't want to go there .... and my hunch feeling is that "the allies" come from there ...... ????
The allies seem like they could be "shapeshifters" ... they can enter into your dreaming in many guises as Lone Wolf pointed out (quote below), but one of the defining character trait to them is, (like in the story in one of the Castaneda books, can't remember which one it was though ... about "The False Owl Calls". Allies can imitate stuff, and they do it to almost perfection, but "other dimensionally" with the imitation, comes this creepy feeling of a "False Note" that chills you to the bone, and makes you stop on your "tracks".
I have "seen" the ally (?), twice since ... but each time a bit further away ...
From DREAMING "Dream Logs":
Quote:I find it mainly important to a dreamer to know what is real and what is not. Allies often take other shapes OR are percieved by us as in different shapes.
And ...
Quote:A another dreamer may take you into their dream and all you see and experience in it is created by the dreamers except when again an allies enters it for they can easily cross the gates into our dreams. They can follow us out of our dreams and spend the day with us even...
Now why did an "ally" come into my dreaming presence, along with the dreaming situation of the last "Spin" Lone Wolf ?
Do Allies follow you .... or just anybody ! for that matter ... ? What for ???? & Why ? I mean How Come ?
Artnwere
that night i even had a dream that shed light on his situation. in the dream the character (which i am assuming is my new friend)would lock himself in artight glass rooms. where he would expose himself to a gigantic dinner table sized red light. the red light would give him euphoric insights into things and visions. i noticed a negative effect: every time he left the glass room over an hour interval he seemed more detached from the world. it seemed like his energy was draining. i had a thought that if he kept up his addiction with the red light room that it would kill him.
i also was tempted to spend time in the red light room. because i wanted to experience the effects for myself. i tried to go in one room but my brother intervened. he told me that if i locked myself in that red light room that there was nothing he could do for me because i would be forever lost like my friend.
Lone Wolf:
Your friend sounds like he has made contact with allies and may have entered into an arrangement or pact. They can manifest under such circumstances into a dreamers world.
If this is true he will need break the pack through stalking of his dreaming.
Now Eilias, I probably would not have believed your story, had not something similar happened to me, and curiously Lone Wolf, your response to Eilias'es post was the same as my first thought ... Allies !
"The ally" presence came into my "awake-dreaming" during the last "Spin".
The ally's red eyes were glowing ... I tell you it gave me the TOTAL creeps !
But for some unknown reason ... (to me and for Poutnik) ... Poutnik's double intervened and warned me about it ... before and after the incident guiding me out of it.
This is the reason why I wanted to leave after the first "Spin" ... I didn't want to get into any "Ally-Power" stuff of the "below-below world".... and this is why I called Poutnik my "Guardian Angel" ...
Now I do not know about allies, I just have got these hunches and feelings about it & I think, that in the Sami-blog I read, it said that besides there being "The Below World" ... which is the world of Ancestors, Totems, The Dead etc. (which is a good world really) ...there is a world below that & it is a bad one, you don't want to go there .... and my hunch feeling is that "the allies" come from there ...... ????
The allies seem like they could be "shapeshifters" ... they can enter into your dreaming in many guises as Lone Wolf pointed out (quote below), but one of the defining character trait to them is, (like in the story in one of the Castaneda books, can't remember which one it was though ... about "The False Owl Calls". Allies can imitate stuff, and they do it to almost perfection, but "other dimensionally" with the imitation, comes this creepy feeling of a "False Note" that chills you to the bone, and makes you stop on your "tracks".
I have "seen" the ally (?), twice since ... but each time a bit further away ...
From DREAMING "Dream Logs":
Quote:I find it mainly important to a dreamer to know what is real and what is not. Allies often take other shapes OR are percieved by us as in different shapes.
And ...
Quote:A another dreamer may take you into their dream and all you see and experience in it is created by the dreamers except when again an allies enters it for they can easily cross the gates into our dreams. They can follow us out of our dreams and spend the day with us even...
Now why did an "ally" come into my dreaming presence, along with the dreaming situation of the last "Spin" Lone Wolf ?
Do Allies follow you .... or just anybody ! for that matter ... ? What for ???? & Why ? I mean How Come ?
Artnwere