12-13-2016, 12:00 AM
Nagual LoneWolf wrote:This thread concerns the dark side of sorcery. As we are shamanic warriors, we do have to address those in the world who use their knowledge for gaining power over others as in "false naguals". The minds of those who allow it can be convinced with the right mixture of intent and small sorcery of anything.
Dark use includes: calling demonics, using allies to transfer and capture humanic power. Creating worlds for the use of physical threat and violence. Drawing innocents into acting as their eyes and ears. Taking control of bodies and even using them to live past their own. Breath taking. Physical sexual abuse. Creating feeding spikes for their now enlarged flyers. Yes, dark sorcery fuels the foreign installation. It is like "Flyers Gone Wild". Dark Ones purposely feed their flyers by their own devious means. Most become slaves to sorcery and the flyers interpretation of it.
Hmmm. I know this post is old so I'll be respectful to the message. I seem to understand Wolf considers "false naguals" to be those who use their knowledge for gaining power over others. The next paragraph says "false naguals" are those who call demons, capture humanic power, use torture, spies, possession, breath taking (this is an interesting one, actually, the drawing of the vital energy from another), feeding spikes, "Flyers Gone Wild". To add my own to this list, I think any perversion of moral character could be considered dark.
There's some confusion here I think. Naguals are not "false" merely because they use power for darkness. I suppose we could attempt to denounce them, but calling a jaguar a monkey doesn't actually change what it is. I suppose that's a clever way to show "with the right mixture of intent and small sorcery, a mind can be convinced of anything". The more important aspect is why are those features mentioned considered false or dark? Sometimes it's appropriate to become dark. Sometimes it's not. Context is essential.
Most do become slaves to sorcery. It's well to intend to help and support others--but it's well to also remember that to protect anything worth protecting, darkness often must hold back the invading darkness.
Right? This isn't a far-fetched concept, I think. I mean, we've all watched Doctor Strange by now (Wolf, it's a movie which came out this year). Not all who draw power from the darkness use it for darkness. It is the very strange who draw power from one place to use it for the opposite.
Dark use includes: calling demonics, using allies to transfer and capture humanic power. Creating worlds for the use of physical threat and violence. Drawing innocents into acting as their eyes and ears. Taking control of bodies and even using them to live past their own. Breath taking. Physical sexual abuse. Creating feeding spikes for their now enlarged flyers. Yes, dark sorcery fuels the foreign installation. It is like "Flyers Gone Wild". Dark Ones purposely feed their flyers by their own devious means. Most become slaves to sorcery and the flyers interpretation of it.
Hmmm. I know this post is old so I'll be respectful to the message. I seem to understand Wolf considers "false naguals" to be those who use their knowledge for gaining power over others. The next paragraph says "false naguals" are those who call demons, capture humanic power, use torture, spies, possession, breath taking (this is an interesting one, actually, the drawing of the vital energy from another), feeding spikes, "Flyers Gone Wild". To add my own to this list, I think any perversion of moral character could be considered dark.
There's some confusion here I think. Naguals are not "false" merely because they use power for darkness. I suppose we could attempt to denounce them, but calling a jaguar a monkey doesn't actually change what it is. I suppose that's a clever way to show "with the right mixture of intent and small sorcery, a mind can be convinced of anything". The more important aspect is why are those features mentioned considered false or dark? Sometimes it's appropriate to become dark. Sometimes it's not. Context is essential.
Most do become slaves to sorcery. It's well to intend to help and support others--but it's well to also remember that to protect anything worth protecting, darkness often must hold back the invading darkness.
Right? This isn't a far-fetched concept, I think. I mean, we've all watched Doctor Strange by now (Wolf, it's a movie which came out this year). Not all who draw power from the darkness use it for darkness. It is the very strange who draw power from one place to use it for the opposite.