02-14-2011, 12:00 AM
Eilias123 wrote:
. My heart isn't into not being able to take a **** in dreams without holding the IBs hand. M heart wants me to share that with others help others get tools to use their dreaming in similar ways... and I did not once get a hand job from an IOB in the process.
i thought you were insinuating that you felt dreaming with the IBs was beneath you. that implies a "high road".
i never said you couldn't dream with the inorganic beings. i said some people cannot. i also said some sorcerers claim that they don't and then try to justify their delusions by conning themselves into thinking it's a "better" path. it's interesting which of those two statements you felt was meant for you. what i meant by delusions is not the resulting dreams, but the fact that you believe you actually get a choice to begin with. first, you insinuate it is a better path, and then you make my point for me:
"I simply choose not to dream with Inorganic beings of Castaneda's type.
It is a choice that I have made, it has nothing to do with whether I
can or Can't. I could if I wanted to, but I choose not to. There's a
difference."
i guess where i'm confused is that you think you can do sorceric dreaming without the sorcery....
what you are describing here sound like psychic dreams. just because
you have them doesn't mean that you have done anything more than
amazing lucid dreaming.
. My heart isn't into not being able to take a **** in dreams without holding the IBs hand. M heart wants me to share that with others help others get tools to use their dreaming in similar ways... and I did not once get a hand job from an IOB in the process.
i thought you were insinuating that you felt dreaming with the IBs was beneath you. that implies a "high road".
i never said you couldn't dream with the inorganic beings. i said some people cannot. i also said some sorcerers claim that they don't and then try to justify their delusions by conning themselves into thinking it's a "better" path. it's interesting which of those two statements you felt was meant for you. what i meant by delusions is not the resulting dreams, but the fact that you believe you actually get a choice to begin with. first, you insinuate it is a better path, and then you make my point for me:
"I simply choose not to dream with Inorganic beings of Castaneda's type.
It is a choice that I have made, it has nothing to do with whether I
can or Can't. I could if I wanted to, but I choose not to. There's a
difference."
i guess where i'm confused is that you think you can do sorceric dreaming without the sorcery....
what you are describing here sound like psychic dreams. just because
you have them doesn't mean that you have done anything more than
amazing lucid dreaming.