09-15-2011, 12:01 AM
Ravenmoon wrote:...why put such a high value on cleverness and witticism and see it as an accomplishment when its only social applause?Because I like being entertained. Drivel and pointless illogical argument is not entertaining, however, sometimes witty combat can be. If you're here for any other purpose, I suggest its a fallacy. "The Work", if there truly is such a thing, is like prayer...best done in private without an audience to admire your accomplishments.
Ravenmoon wrote:Looking for significant writing?Not in any Internet Forum, although I'm sometimes surprised.
Ravenmoon wrote: Rather... one can perceive the significance of anything/everything. What does it mean to YOU?It means nothing. It serves as entertainment.
Ravenmoon wrote: You suggest he write differently, if he wrote differently how would that change you? Do you even consider change in you, or is it only him you see as needing to change?I don't expect Sacateca to change anything...why should he? The purpose of my post at him was to see if he wanted to engage in some combat. He declined. Instead, it appears, you decided to engage.
In regard change, nobody changes. The best anyone can do is manage to reveal himself to himself, what don Juan called achieving the totality of self. That total uncovering of self does not change self...it is enlightenment in its true form.
Ravenmoon wrote: Its like with Churchill, he could have had a very unusual response to that woman, instead he chose a known way of responding. Everyone got the joke and nothing was really discovered that was any different then what was already known.You missed the point entirely. A siris asked the meaning of "Brevity is the soul of wit" and I used Churchill's response as an example. Perhaps you might provide your own understanding of the meaning of the phrase.
Ravenmoon wrote:Looking for significant writing?Not in any Internet Forum, although I'm sometimes surprised.
Ravenmoon wrote: Rather... one can perceive the significance of anything/everything. What does it mean to YOU?It means nothing. It serves as entertainment.
"Ravenmoon Wrote:For example...what do Sacateca's posts mean to you Gonzo?They mean what he expects them to mean - an opportunity for combat. If you bother to read what he writes, that's his primary purpose. Apparently he chooses not to engage with me, which is his choice. The last thing Sacateca wants, however, is to be ignored. In that, he is rather successful, but moreso on his "home" forum.
Ravenmoon wrote: You suggest he write differently, if he wrote differently how would that change you? Do you even consider change in you, or is it only him you see as needing to change?I don't expect Sacateca to change anything...why should he? The purpose of my post at him was to see if he wanted to engage in some combat. He declined. Instead, it appears, you decided to engage.
In regard change, nobody changes. The best anyone can do is manage to reveal himself to himself, what don Juan called achieving the totality of self. That total uncovering of self does not change self...it is enlightenment in its true form.
Ravenmoon wrote: Its like with Churchill, he could have had a very unusual response to that woman, instead he chose a known way of responding. Everyone got the joke and nothing was really discovered that was any different then what was already known.You missed the point entirely. A siris asked the meaning of "Brevity is the soul of wit" and I used Churchill's response as an example. Perhaps you might provide your own understanding of the meaning of the phrase.