09-28-2011, 12:03 AM
Well whatdayaknow! Jeremy Donovan TBD is back from his second trip to Greece.
Was it any Greasier this time around, blubbery cheeks?
I
say the wise will agree with me that ALL BOOKS and information should
be treated as fiction until empirically proven otherwise. The unwise
will not agree with me and continue to argue that Castaneda's books were
fiction. Since I agree that ALL BOOKS contain fiction in one way or
another I have no problem with the premise that Castaneda's books as
well as The Bible as well as The Koran as well as The Bhagavad-Gita as
well as 'ad infinitum' most probably contain some or complete fiction.
Once this matter is resolved what remains is to answer the question of:
Not whether a book is true or not, but whether or not a book is useful!
I
say use what works for you and hold the rest in question from ANY book.
I say if Castaneda made don Juan up, made the cover of Time magazine
and tricked UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that is a heck of a lot more
interesting than if don Juan was an actual person. Whether any of the
rest of you agree with me or not is truly none of my business. I say
only fools argue back and forth about such matters. I say all who are
wise will agree with me that if Castaneda faked it then his New York
Times bestselling works were the works of a SUPER GENIUS!! That is my
view and I'm sure most of the people who gave Journey To Ixtlan a
five-star rating at Amazon.com will wholeheartedly agree with me.
Whether YOU agree with me or not makes no difference to me. I don't
expect monkeys to praise the works of and recite Shakespeare.
Look
Jeremy, I believe Castaneda lied. I believe the creators of the New
Testament lied as well as the creators of the Book of Mormon. I believe
the creators of the Bhagavd-Gita lied. I believe YOU LIE!! So it is
irrelevant to me whether or not Castaneda lied. What matters are the
qualities of his writings and those writings are timeless to me. I'm in
the process of reading Journey To Ixtlan again and I'm glad you brought
up erasing personal history because that is the main thing I was going
to write about in this post:
ON ERASING PERSONAL HISTORY:
While
reading Journey To Ixtlan I just recently finished the section where
don Juan strongly recommends that Castaneda erase his personal history
if he really wants to learn about plants. While I agree that TEMPORARILY
erasing personal history, through inner-silence, is essential for
communicating with Mother Nature ALL THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE is their
personal history. When you meet someone new you strike up a conversation
based on your personal history and their personal history. What are you
supposed to say if a police officer pulls you over and asks for your
ID? That you have no personal history? Get real!
TEMPORARILIY
erasing personal history, through states of inner-silence, is of
paramount importance when directly communicating with plants and the
Spirit of Intent.
ALTERING
our personal history through what we emphasize is sufficient when
dealing with people. For example: suppose you viewed your past by
focusing on the things that went wrong with your associations with
Carlos Castaneda. That is your current personal history, right Jeremy?
Now, how about altering your personal history by focusing primarily on
the good you gained through your association with Carlos Castaneda.
You're not lying. You're just focusing on the good you learned instead
of the bad. It's not lying. It's the same personal history from the
perspective of the good you gained rather than the bad. After all,
Castaneda cured you of needing gurus in your life, right? If you didn't
join Castaneda's cult you would now probably be a member of some other
cult, if they had gotten to you first. Castaneda CURED YOU of needing to
surrender your life to some guru. At the very least you should be
grateful for that and YOU KNOW IT!
It
is no lie to improve one's personal history by changing the emphasis of
what we focus upon. There is nothing wrong in improving one's personal
history through forgiving oneself and everyone else equally. Jeremy's
problem is he can't forgive himself and, consequently, he can't forgive
Carlos Castaneda for being an ****. Be honest, Jeremy. It's not like
Castaneda didn't warn the world as to what type of leader he would be,
right? He gave EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD ample warning of the type of
leader he would be, right? If YOU took him as your guru in spite of the
warnings YOU MUST TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY for staying in that group.
You should have left the group, but you didn't and now you whine and
complain like some little irresponsible mentally retarded child.
BE A MAN AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR JOINING CASTANEDA'S GROUP AND STAYING WITH CASTANEDA'S GROUP!!!
You whining little wimp!
'I was hurt and it was all Castaneda's fault. Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!'
The rallying cry of the Castaneda jackasss wimps who refuse to take responsibility for their lives.
DO YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR JOINING CASTANEDA GROUP AND STAYING IN THAT GROUP? If you do then stop whining like a little baby, you ****!
I
believe Tom, Guy Gardner, the wisest members of this forum and myself
would NEVER have been dumb enough to stay in that cult under the
ridiculous conditions that Castaneda demanded. YOU WERE DUMB ENOUGH and
you have NO ONE ELSE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF for being that dumb!!!!
It's about time you get this through your thick head, Jeremy!
I'm
not the type of person who responds like a trained monkey as you did
while in Castaneda's cult. At best I would have been kicked out for
sure. Most probably after the first day!
Was it any Greasier this time around, blubbery cheeks?
I
say the wise will agree with me that ALL BOOKS and information should
be treated as fiction until empirically proven otherwise. The unwise
will not agree with me and continue to argue that Castaneda's books were
fiction. Since I agree that ALL BOOKS contain fiction in one way or
another I have no problem with the premise that Castaneda's books as
well as The Bible as well as The Koran as well as The Bhagavad-Gita as
well as 'ad infinitum' most probably contain some or complete fiction.
Once this matter is resolved what remains is to answer the question of:
Not whether a book is true or not, but whether or not a book is useful!
I
say use what works for you and hold the rest in question from ANY book.
I say if Castaneda made don Juan up, made the cover of Time magazine
and tricked UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that is a heck of a lot more
interesting than if don Juan was an actual person. Whether any of the
rest of you agree with me or not is truly none of my business. I say
only fools argue back and forth about such matters. I say all who are
wise will agree with me that if Castaneda faked it then his New York
Times bestselling works were the works of a SUPER GENIUS!! That is my
view and I'm sure most of the people who gave Journey To Ixtlan a
five-star rating at Amazon.com will wholeheartedly agree with me.
Whether YOU agree with me or not makes no difference to me. I don't
expect monkeys to praise the works of and recite Shakespeare.
Look
Jeremy, I believe Castaneda lied. I believe the creators of the New
Testament lied as well as the creators of the Book of Mormon. I believe
the creators of the Bhagavd-Gita lied. I believe YOU LIE!! So it is
irrelevant to me whether or not Castaneda lied. What matters are the
qualities of his writings and those writings are timeless to me. I'm in
the process of reading Journey To Ixtlan again and I'm glad you brought
up erasing personal history because that is the main thing I was going
to write about in this post:
ON ERASING PERSONAL HISTORY:
While
reading Journey To Ixtlan I just recently finished the section where
don Juan strongly recommends that Castaneda erase his personal history
if he really wants to learn about plants. While I agree that TEMPORARILY
erasing personal history, through inner-silence, is essential for
communicating with Mother Nature ALL THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE is their
personal history. When you meet someone new you strike up a conversation
based on your personal history and their personal history. What are you
supposed to say if a police officer pulls you over and asks for your
ID? That you have no personal history? Get real!
TEMPORARILIY
erasing personal history, through states of inner-silence, is of
paramount importance when directly communicating with plants and the
Spirit of Intent.
ALTERING
our personal history through what we emphasize is sufficient when
dealing with people. For example: suppose you viewed your past by
focusing on the things that went wrong with your associations with
Carlos Castaneda. That is your current personal history, right Jeremy?
Now, how about altering your personal history by focusing primarily on
the good you gained through your association with Carlos Castaneda.
You're not lying. You're just focusing on the good you learned instead
of the bad. It's not lying. It's the same personal history from the
perspective of the good you gained rather than the bad. After all,
Castaneda cured you of needing gurus in your life, right? If you didn't
join Castaneda's cult you would now probably be a member of some other
cult, if they had gotten to you first. Castaneda CURED YOU of needing to
surrender your life to some guru. At the very least you should be
grateful for that and YOU KNOW IT!
It
is no lie to improve one's personal history by changing the emphasis of
what we focus upon. There is nothing wrong in improving one's personal
history through forgiving oneself and everyone else equally. Jeremy's
problem is he can't forgive himself and, consequently, he can't forgive
Carlos Castaneda for being an ****. Be honest, Jeremy. It's not like
Castaneda didn't warn the world as to what type of leader he would be,
right? He gave EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD ample warning of the type of
leader he would be, right? If YOU took him as your guru in spite of the
warnings YOU MUST TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY for staying in that group.
You should have left the group, but you didn't and now you whine and
complain like some little irresponsible mentally retarded child.
BE A MAN AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR JOINING CASTANEDA'S GROUP AND STAYING WITH CASTANEDA'S GROUP!!!
You whining little wimp!
'I was hurt and it was all Castaneda's fault. Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!'
The rallying cry of the Castaneda jackasss wimps who refuse to take responsibility for their lives.
DO YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR JOINING CASTANEDA GROUP AND STAYING IN THAT GROUP? If you do then stop whining like a little baby, you ****!
I
believe Tom, Guy Gardner, the wisest members of this forum and myself
would NEVER have been dumb enough to stay in that cult under the
ridiculous conditions that Castaneda demanded. YOU WERE DUMB ENOUGH and
you have NO ONE ELSE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF for being that dumb!!!!
It's about time you get this through your thick head, Jeremy!
I'm
not the type of person who responds like a trained monkey as you did
while in Castaneda's cult. At best I would have been kicked out for
sure. Most probably after the first day!