09-26-2011, 12:00 AM
Well whatdayaknow! Jeremy Donovan TBD is back from his second trip to Greece.
Was it any Greasier this time around, blubbery cheeks?
I say the wise will agree with me that ALL BOOKS and information should be treated as fiction until empirically proven otherwise. The unwise will not agree with me and continue to argue that Castaneda's books were fiction. Since I agree that ALL BOOKS contain fiction in one way or another I have no problem with the premise that Castaneda's books as well as The Bible as well as The Koran as well as The Bhagavad-Gita as well as 'ad infinitum' most probably contain some or complete fiction. Once this matter is resolved what remains is to answer the question of:
Not whether a book is true or not, but whether or not a book is useful!
I say use what works for you and hold the rest in question from ANY book. I say if Castaneda made don Juan up, made the cover of Time magazine and tricked UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that is a heck of a lot more interesting than if don Juan was an actual person. Whether any of the rest of you agree with me or not is truly none of my business. I say only fools argue back and forth about such matters. I say all who are wise will agree with me that if Castaneda faked it then his New York Times bestselling works were the works of a SUPER GENIUS!! That is my view and I'm sure most of the people who gave Journey To Ixtlan a five-star rating at Amazon.com will wholeheartedly agree with me. Whether YOU agree with me or not makes no difference to me. I don't expect monkeys to praise the works of and recite Shakespeare.
Look Jeremy, I believe Castaneda lied. I believe the creators of the New Testament lied as well as the creators of the Book of Mormon. I believe the creators of the Bhagavd-Gita lied. I believe YOU LIE!! So it is irrelevant to me whether or not Castaneda lied. What matters are the qualities of his writings and those writings are timeless to me. I'm in the process of reading Journey To Ixtlan again and I'm glad you brought up erasing personal history because that is the main thing I was going to write about in this post:
ON ERASING PERSONAL HISTORY:
While reading Journey To Ixtlan I just recently finished the section where don Juan strongly recommends that Castaneda erase his personal history if he really wants to learn about plants. While I agree that TEMPORARILY erasing personal history, through inner-silence, is essential for communicating with Mother Nature ALL THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE is their personal history. When you meet someone new you strike up a conversation based on your personal history and their personal history. What are you supposed to say if a police officer pulls you over and asks for your ID? That you have no personal history? Get real!
TEMPORARILIY erasing personal history, through states of inner-silence, is of paramount importance when directly communicating with plants and the Spirit of Intent.
ALTERING our personal history through what we emphasize is sufficient when dealing with people. For example: suppose you viewed your past by focusing on the things that went wrong with your associations with Carlos Castaneda. That is your current personal history, right Jeremy? Now, how about altering your personal history by focusing primarily on the good you gained through your association with Carlos Castaneda. You're not lying. You're just focusing on the good you learned instead of the bad. It's not lying. It's the same personal history from the perspective of the good you gained rather than the bad. After all, Castaneda cured you of needing gurus in your life, right? If you didn't join Castaneda's cult you would now probably be a member of some other cult, if they had gotten to you first. Castaneda CURED YOU of needing to surrender your life to some guru. At the very least you should be grateful for that and YOU KNOW IT!
It is no lie to improve one's personal history by changing the emphasis of what we focus upon. There is nothing wrong in improving one's personal history through forgiving oneself and everyone else equally. Jeremy's problem is he can't forgive himself and, consequently, he can't forgive Carlos Castaneda for being an ****. Be honest, Jeremy. It's not like Castaneda didn't warn the world as to what type of leader he would be, right? He gave EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD ample warning of the type of leader he would be, right? If YOU took him as your guru in spite of the warnings YOU MUST TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY for staying in that group. You should have left the group, but you didn't and now you whine and complain like some little irresponsible mentally retarded child.
BE A MAN AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR JOINING CASTANEDA'S GROUP AND STAYING WITH CASTANEDA'S GROUP!!!
You whining little wimp!
'I was hurt and it was all Castaneda's fault. Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!'
The rallying cry of the Castaneda jackasss wimps who refuse to take responsibility for their lives.
DO YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR JOINING CASTANEDA GROUP AND STAYING IN THAT GROUP? If you do then stop whining like a little baby, you ****!
I believe Tom, Guy Gardner, the wisest members of this forum and myself would NEVER have been dumb enough to stay in that cult under the ridiculous conditions that Castaneda demanded. YOU WERE DUMB ENOUGH and you have NO ONE ELSE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF for being that dumb!!!!
It's about time you get this through your thick head, Jeremy!
I'm not the type of person who responds like a trained monkey as you did while in Castaneda's cult. At best I would have been kicked out for sure. Most probably after the first day!
Was it any Greasier this time around, blubbery cheeks?
I say the wise will agree with me that ALL BOOKS and information should be treated as fiction until empirically proven otherwise. The unwise will not agree with me and continue to argue that Castaneda's books were fiction. Since I agree that ALL BOOKS contain fiction in one way or another I have no problem with the premise that Castaneda's books as well as The Bible as well as The Koran as well as The Bhagavad-Gita as well as 'ad infinitum' most probably contain some or complete fiction. Once this matter is resolved what remains is to answer the question of:
Not whether a book is true or not, but whether or not a book is useful!
I say use what works for you and hold the rest in question from ANY book. I say if Castaneda made don Juan up, made the cover of Time magazine and tricked UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that is a heck of a lot more interesting than if don Juan was an actual person. Whether any of the rest of you agree with me or not is truly none of my business. I say only fools argue back and forth about such matters. I say all who are wise will agree with me that if Castaneda faked it then his New York Times bestselling works were the works of a SUPER GENIUS!! That is my view and I'm sure most of the people who gave Journey To Ixtlan a five-star rating at Amazon.com will wholeheartedly agree with me. Whether YOU agree with me or not makes no difference to me. I don't expect monkeys to praise the works of and recite Shakespeare.
Look Jeremy, I believe Castaneda lied. I believe the creators of the New Testament lied as well as the creators of the Book of Mormon. I believe the creators of the Bhagavd-Gita lied. I believe YOU LIE!! So it is irrelevant to me whether or not Castaneda lied. What matters are the qualities of his writings and those writings are timeless to me. I'm in the process of reading Journey To Ixtlan again and I'm glad you brought up erasing personal history because that is the main thing I was going to write about in this post:
ON ERASING PERSONAL HISTORY:
While reading Journey To Ixtlan I just recently finished the section where don Juan strongly recommends that Castaneda erase his personal history if he really wants to learn about plants. While I agree that TEMPORARILY erasing personal history, through inner-silence, is essential for communicating with Mother Nature ALL THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE is their personal history. When you meet someone new you strike up a conversation based on your personal history and their personal history. What are you supposed to say if a police officer pulls you over and asks for your ID? That you have no personal history? Get real!
TEMPORARILIY erasing personal history, through states of inner-silence, is of paramount importance when directly communicating with plants and the Spirit of Intent.
ALTERING our personal history through what we emphasize is sufficient when dealing with people. For example: suppose you viewed your past by focusing on the things that went wrong with your associations with Carlos Castaneda. That is your current personal history, right Jeremy? Now, how about altering your personal history by focusing primarily on the good you gained through your association with Carlos Castaneda. You're not lying. You're just focusing on the good you learned instead of the bad. It's not lying. It's the same personal history from the perspective of the good you gained rather than the bad. After all, Castaneda cured you of needing gurus in your life, right? If you didn't join Castaneda's cult you would now probably be a member of some other cult, if they had gotten to you first. Castaneda CURED YOU of needing to surrender your life to some guru. At the very least you should be grateful for that and YOU KNOW IT!
It is no lie to improve one's personal history by changing the emphasis of what we focus upon. There is nothing wrong in improving one's personal history through forgiving oneself and everyone else equally. Jeremy's problem is he can't forgive himself and, consequently, he can't forgive Carlos Castaneda for being an ****. Be honest, Jeremy. It's not like Castaneda didn't warn the world as to what type of leader he would be, right? He gave EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD ample warning of the type of leader he would be, right? If YOU took him as your guru in spite of the warnings YOU MUST TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY for staying in that group. You should have left the group, but you didn't and now you whine and complain like some little irresponsible mentally retarded child.
BE A MAN AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR JOINING CASTANEDA'S GROUP AND STAYING WITH CASTANEDA'S GROUP!!!
You whining little wimp!
'I was hurt and it was all Castaneda's fault. Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!'
The rallying cry of the Castaneda jackasss wimps who refuse to take responsibility for their lives.
DO YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR JOINING CASTANEDA GROUP AND STAYING IN THAT GROUP? If you do then stop whining like a little baby, you ****!
I believe Tom, Guy Gardner, the wisest members of this forum and myself would NEVER have been dumb enough to stay in that cult under the ridiculous conditions that Castaneda demanded. YOU WERE DUMB ENOUGH and you have NO ONE ELSE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF for being that dumb!!!!
It's about time you get this through your thick head, Jeremy!
I'm not the type of person who responds like a trained monkey as you did while in Castaneda's cult. At best I would have been kicked out for sure. Most probably after the first day!