08-25-2011, 12:00 AM
Ravenmoon wrote:
Yes we are confronted by choices daily, and honestly, I think each day and within each day there can be many guiding influences and not all good. Listening to the body is a good navigational tool. The body will tell you about energy flow, when its there and when its not and this can be very useful. So we guide ourselves, IMO, but within that we have to select from a vastness but at least to be looking to oneself and it can be to choose to trust another or not, but its a personal decision. Again the body is a good instinctual reference point. Learning to understand its messages takes ability, and so not having past baggage will aid this listening /receiving messages process.I resonated with what someone else said about good and bad being essentially humanform assignations - things we have decided based on preference. In the big picture, listening to the body can be a tricky prospect, because the body can be every bit as programmed as the mind. For example, some people feel "sick to their stomach" just at the sight of a spider... or a dog... or just about anything. Others may feel "rainbow bubble laughter" at the sight of a cottontail... or a rose... or just about anything. All of these are learned, programmed responses - so the body is not always a reliable yardstick because the things we believe will determine how we feel... and so goes the vicious circle. Not all spiders are dangerous. Not all dogs are docile. So it's important to be always aware not just of WHAT we are feeling, but examining the underlying belief that determines WHY we feel/believe certain things.
I also wanted to make the observation that this thread is about "black magick", yet it has been my observation that those who worry most about black magick are those who truly don't understand that there really is no such thing. There is no good or evil, only power. Power can be used for positive or negative outcomes, but again it becomes important to examine how much our beliefs come into play with regard to what we might consider positive or negative. In the movie "V for Vendetta", the Natalie Portman character is essentially tortured by "V"... but in the end it was done for positive results... so where is the line drawn? Is the scorpion evil because he is "ugly" to our perceptions? Is the poodle good because she is "cute" to our consensual agreements? I've held a scorpion in my hand without harm, and been bitten by one of those cute poodles, so again... where is good and evil?
In the human mind. In the human heart. The blade can be used to kill or to cut away diseased tissue. It's all in our intent. So... black magick? I say it doesn't exist unless one fears it, and through their fear, wills it into being.
Just my 2 cents worth, passing through the neighborhood.
Yes we are confronted by choices daily, and honestly, I think each day and within each day there can be many guiding influences and not all good. Listening to the body is a good navigational tool. The body will tell you about energy flow, when its there and when its not and this can be very useful. So we guide ourselves, IMO, but within that we have to select from a vastness but at least to be looking to oneself and it can be to choose to trust another or not, but its a personal decision. Again the body is a good instinctual reference point. Learning to understand its messages takes ability, and so not having past baggage will aid this listening /receiving messages process.I resonated with what someone else said about good and bad being essentially humanform assignations - things we have decided based on preference. In the big picture, listening to the body can be a tricky prospect, because the body can be every bit as programmed as the mind. For example, some people feel "sick to their stomach" just at the sight of a spider... or a dog... or just about anything. Others may feel "rainbow bubble laughter" at the sight of a cottontail... or a rose... or just about anything. All of these are learned, programmed responses - so the body is not always a reliable yardstick because the things we believe will determine how we feel... and so goes the vicious circle. Not all spiders are dangerous. Not all dogs are docile. So it's important to be always aware not just of WHAT we are feeling, but examining the underlying belief that determines WHY we feel/believe certain things.
I also wanted to make the observation that this thread is about "black magick", yet it has been my observation that those who worry most about black magick are those who truly don't understand that there really is no such thing. There is no good or evil, only power. Power can be used for positive or negative outcomes, but again it becomes important to examine how much our beliefs come into play with regard to what we might consider positive or negative. In the movie "V for Vendetta", the Natalie Portman character is essentially tortured by "V"... but in the end it was done for positive results... so where is the line drawn? Is the scorpion evil because he is "ugly" to our perceptions? Is the poodle good because she is "cute" to our consensual agreements? I've held a scorpion in my hand without harm, and been bitten by one of those cute poodles, so again... where is good and evil?
In the human mind. In the human heart. The blade can be used to kill or to cut away diseased tissue. It's all in our intent. So... black magick? I say it doesn't exist unless one fears it, and through their fear, wills it into being.
Just my 2 cents worth, passing through the neighborhood.

