04-09-2011, 12:00 AM
Jessicar wrote:We don't go to a nagual and pay them to give us
something. That implies we have nothing to give them but money. The
value of interaction is the energy involved (power between them) and the
outcomes from such...both benefit on the path..
Yes, we do pay them---even if it is a payment of our attention, time, energy, devotion, etc.--all those 'values of interaction', which includes money. Money is only one exchange medium.
Yes, I said the same regarding there being an even exchange: "The
value of interaction is the energy involved (power between them) and the
outcomes from such...both benefit on the path" thats the payment from each. Since both pay and both receive, money is above and beyond the balanced arrangement. Money is of the social system, warriors know that the social system is a constructed reality to colonize and expand tonal concerns and endeavors. Warriors know that between warriors the exchange is energy and awareness. The social system does not recognize these as forms of payment, but the are actually a truer currency then money. Money was 'created' as a representation of value. The world here functions on it and so we must comply. But to those seeking infinity, whats beyond the eagle, we, between us know a different reality.
and money is therefore
above and beyond the value the nagual receives. This is my view and what
I choose. If there are naguals out there who charge and students
willing to pay, I say that's their choice, and its not mine so c'est la
vie.
In the past, have you paid with money for the services of a teacher?
Yes, and I am not talking about teachers, I am talking about naguals and warriors, as known in CC terms. If one wants the pursuit of seeking a teacher to help them in tonal endeavors, even spiritual endeavors, I know most out there charge money, so one must pay, its just how it is.
When it comes to a nagual lineages, its different. The value of a lineage is energy. Its not of the tonal. I responded here to a question of charging money, I never said teachers should not charge money, I was very specific about it being naguals/warriors/sorcerers of whom I spoke of, they fall within the topic here but are an exception to the rule that governs teachers due to how they function as a group. And since most who come here are pursuing nagaulism or at least familiar with it, I shared my view on that regarding money.
something. That implies we have nothing to give them but money. The
value of interaction is the energy involved (power between them) and the
outcomes from such...both benefit on the path..
Yes, we do pay them---even if it is a payment of our attention, time, energy, devotion, etc.--all those 'values of interaction', which includes money. Money is only one exchange medium.
Yes, I said the same regarding there being an even exchange: "The
value of interaction is the energy involved (power between them) and the
outcomes from such...both benefit on the path" thats the payment from each. Since both pay and both receive, money is above and beyond the balanced arrangement. Money is of the social system, warriors know that the social system is a constructed reality to colonize and expand tonal concerns and endeavors. Warriors know that between warriors the exchange is energy and awareness. The social system does not recognize these as forms of payment, but the are actually a truer currency then money. Money was 'created' as a representation of value. The world here functions on it and so we must comply. But to those seeking infinity, whats beyond the eagle, we, between us know a different reality.
and money is therefore
above and beyond the value the nagual receives. This is my view and what
I choose. If there are naguals out there who charge and students
willing to pay, I say that's their choice, and its not mine so c'est la
vie.
In the past, have you paid with money for the services of a teacher?
Yes, and I am not talking about teachers, I am talking about naguals and warriors, as known in CC terms. If one wants the pursuit of seeking a teacher to help them in tonal endeavors, even spiritual endeavors, I know most out there charge money, so one must pay, its just how it is.
When it comes to a nagual lineages, its different. The value of a lineage is energy. Its not of the tonal. I responded here to a question of charging money, I never said teachers should not charge money, I was very specific about it being naguals/warriors/sorcerers of whom I spoke of, they fall within the topic here but are an exception to the rule that governs teachers due to how they function as a group. And since most who come here are pursuing nagaulism or at least familiar with it, I shared my view on that regarding money.